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Multi-build kits have to fill the spruce with parts for both builds, possessed are single build kits, so can be more economical with space. Both are probably going to be in the same sized box. Not a good reason, but probably the boring real reason.

GW have been doing the whole "elite units are 3 to a squad now!" since Primaris were released. When those three-man Primaris units were first released I was amazed that there wasn't an uproar, it seemed clear to me that it was just their way of selling you less for the same price (or sometimes a higher price).

They could do it with Primaris because they were new units (Eliminators, the derpy jump pack autocannon dudes, Bladeguard...), I guess they do it when they think that they can get away with it?

Hence the Eighbound are three to a box I guess, although to be fair to GW the Eightbound are supposed to be very big (they really fill out a 40mm base).

Edit: I hate to add more negativity to the site, but I've gotta say it as I see it, right or wrong.

Edit: Eightbound are bigger than I thought

Here's someone's approx sizing:

Dudeface wrote:
Here's someone's approx sizing:

That video was debunked when it was first posted a while ago. The ratios in the screenshot are clearly exaggerated; 40mm bases should be 25% bigger than berzekers. However someone measured the image at around 45% bigger.

It's either a silly mistake or clickbait.

 xttz wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Here's someone's approx sizing:

That video was debunked when it was first posted a while ago. The ratios in the screenshot are clearly exaggerated; 40mm bases should be 25% bigger than berzekers. However someone measured the image at around 45% bigger.

It's either a silly mistake or clickbait.

Who knows I plucked it off Google, but there's few shots of them actually stood next to anything useful for a comparison, they're definitely taller than a terminator but not much bulkier from what I can tell.

 xttz wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Here's someone's approx sizing:

That video was debunked when it was first posted a while ago. The ratios in the screenshot are clearly exaggerated; 40mm bases should be 25% bigger than berzekers. However someone measured the image at around 45% bigger.

It's either a silly mistake or clickbait.

Why can’t it be both? Therein lies the best engagement.

Thank god. I want to use the eightbound bits to diversify my possessed but if they were somehow that big, it wouldn’t work

The Eightbound are simply not looking so good that I'm tempted to get a rather expensive box for three. They have the trope of not changing the silhouette too much, but adding tedious to paint amounts of "details" like even more teeth and armour trimming. The poses are also rather tame and uninspiring. I would have preferred something like the Slaughterpriest with the oversized hand and the Underworlds warband with a tall guy, chubby guy and the "Gorehulk" (I think that's the name). Or full body horror with asymmetrical limbs and inhuman proportions like the big possessed cultitsts that CSM got, but with ticked off Berzerker as a base. And I might built/(3d) print something like that and use chainaxe wielding minotaurs to proxy the other unit the kit builds (thank you, Bestiarum Miniatures).

I dislike squads of three overall for anything smaller than trolls or ogryns (who are also a bi5 small for that), five/ten is a much nicer number for a squad than 3/6/9, IMO.

 Binabik15 wrote:


I dislike squads of three overall for anything smaller than trolls or ogryns (who are also a bi5 small for that), five/ten is a much nicer number for a squad than 3/6/9, IMO.

Agreed. Squads of three is a horrible trend, but I can't see it getting better sadly. GW are invested in it now.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How much bigger are they than regular Possessed?

Yesterday's warcom article on Jackhals has them stood next to the Master of Executions, they don't look particularly different in scale to anything else.

 Insularum wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
How much bigger are they than regular Possessed?

Yesterday's warcom article on Jackhals has them stood next to the Master of Executions, they don't look particularly different in scale to anything else.

Image in question:



I stand by the initial assessment, slightly taller but no more bulky than a terminator, not owning any of the new possessed, unsure how close they are size-wise but I'd wager it's close.

Yeah, so, a complete rip-off at 3 to a box.

Wonderful.

What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

If you mix a box of them into a 5 man possessed box, you get 8.

I'm really curious to see if World Eaters are like some other armies in the recent past and get a second wave (and codex) in the next year and a half, or if this sorry release is what World Eaters players have to work with for years to come.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

If you mix a box of them into a 5 man possessed box, you get 8.

I think it works out just fine. Death Guard got seven for the price of ten, so there's your holy number. World Eaters get three for the price of five. What's three plus five? Exactly!

Even Thousand Sons players can't complain. Just when you thought you know what your holy number is, it changes...

Yeah, there is that, but I dunno. It just feels like a lot of the flavour has been left by the wayside over the last few years.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

If you mix a box of them into a 5 man possessed box, you get 8.

If you just spend $120 USD (probably) you get 8 dudes, yes lol.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

If you mix a box of them into a 5 man possessed box, you get 8.

Didn't the unit size for the Eightbound end up being 3-6?

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
Yeah, there is that, but I dunno. It just feels like a lot of the flavour has been left by the wayside over the last few years.

Definitely. I've found the 40k rules increasingly unimmersive since GW started the whole nonsense with "forge the narrative". If you have to tell the players to do the work themselves, it's a sure sign that the rules aren't written to reflect the background very well.

I think the idea of forging the narrative is a good one; but yes, the rules themselves seem much less reflective of the background than they have been in the past.

The Eightbound being 3-6 is just ... silly! If they put one more in the box (or even one less) they could have done 4-8. Ah well.

And... they have a skill that lets them shrug of Mortal Wounds. The circle of exceptions to exceptions continues, and destroys yet another useful concept.

Tsagualsa wrote:
And... they have a skill that lets them shrug of Mortal Wounds. The circle of exceptions to exceptions continues, and destroys yet another useful concept.

Those have been round a long time?

I have to say that I'm really glad that the Combat Patrol box has two kits of Berzerkers and one jackal kit instead of some Eightbound - or a Helbrute or Termis or whatever. Even with the current prices the box price is decent enough compared to the 25 Euro or whatever (it was before the Euro) regiment boxes I started with all those years ago, when the plastic Berzerkers had not yet even released. For that price+20% off at my FLGS I might get two Combat Patrols and call it a day - and recreate the conversions from White Dwarf with a Skaven tail on the head and knife licking, now that I talked about the old kit

I don't actually play, though, and haven't in long time and enjoy sculpting and converting the most in this hobby. For me it's not an issue to built 8 man units of Possessed/Eightbound and have the look good, but I feel for everyone who has to use this new Codex. Three man squads. No cavalry *unit* and not even bikers to proxy, or, you know, use bikers. No jump troops?! It's just so bizarre. And even though I might get a box of Eightbound as parts donators, I'm unhappy that they "spent" a kit out of the small number they did for WE on a new unit and completely kicking Red Butchers to the curb.

Edit: hit the send button on my phone way too early

The combat patrol box is definitely the bright spot in all of this--great value, great unit selection.

Yeah, the Combat Patrol is a cool box - no arguments there!

Indeed the Combat Patrol Box is very tempting, I'm considering retiring my Berzerkers for the updated scale and the price point is hard to pass up for finely updated models.

 Gen.Steiner wrote:
What annoys me the most about them being 3 to a box is that it isn't even half of Khorne's sacred number! 8 should be a regular theme throughout the World Eaters codex just like 7 should have been in Death Guard and 9 in Thousand Sons.

Want boxes of 8 berserkers as well?

tneva82 wrote:
Want boxes of 8 berserkers as well?

Well they used to be 16 to a box...

EDIT: Correction! They were 12 to a box when they came out. That at least means that two boxes get you three squads of 8!

 Gen.Steiner wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Want boxes of 8 berserkers as well?

Well they used to be 16 to a box...

12, not 16.

 Platuan4th wrote:
12, not 16.

Yeah, my rusty memory. I had a memory of the original release in 3rd edition being 16 to a box but it was not the case!