Chaos Daemons codex, news and rumours

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**ArcaneHorror**

John D Law wrote:
Wow I didn’t realize they screwed DOOMBREED over like that! Belekor better hope Breed doesn’t find out cuz he would get curbstomped Lickety split! Breed don’t play that kinda disrespect! :(

He's still the first daemon prince of Khorne, and insanely powerful.

The rules state that nearly every unit will be able to deep strike; that's cool, but will there still be the same restrictions on deep striking rules as the rest of the game? One of the biggest problems of daemons in 40k is being able to get them up the field fast enough to not get blasted of the board. It doesn't matter how powerful they are if they can't reach their targets.

**blood reaper**

Whenever I open an Ibris comment I am reminded of why I have him on ignore; by far one of the most annoying, pretentious, and downright dishonest posters on the site.

ArcaneHorror wrote:
John D Law wrote:
Wow I didn’t realize they screwed DOOMBREED over like that! Belekor better hope Breed doesn’t find out cuz he would get curbstomped Lickety split! Breed don’t play that kinda disrespect! :(

He's still the first daemon prince of Khorne, and insanely powerful.

The rules state that nearly every unit will be able to deep strike; that's cool, but will there still be the same restrictions on deep striking rules as the rest of the game? One of the biggest problems of daemons in 40k is being able to get them up the field fast enough to not get blasted of the board. It doesn't matter how powerful they are if they can't reach their targets.

If things like the Banner of Blood (3D6 charge for a Bloodletter unit) and charge re-rolls provided by characters are kept in the book, we should probably be okay. I am hopeful that Horrors and other shooting units have their ranged capabilities improved as well.

**Kanluwen**

Chaos Daemons codex announced.

Life is tough in the 41st Millennium. Your average human is born into a life of gruelling menial labour, only to find themselves eaten by a Tyranid invasion force, whisked away to Commorragh for a round of Drukhari truth-or-dare, or drafted into the thankless meat grinder of the Astra Militarum.

If all that weren’t bad enough, there’s another ever-present threat lurking just behind the material veil. Gibbering, bloodthirsty legions of daemons claw at the walls of existence, taking advantage of any tear in realspace to manifest plagues and curses, tempt mortal souls, and slaughter untold millions. All it takes to invite devastation is one ill-considered ritual drawn from a blasphemous grimoire… speaking of which, Codex: Chaos Daemons is on the way.

The warp-wrought children of the Chaos Gods are bursting out of the immaterium with a 152-page tome packed with eldritch esoterica, forbidden daemonology, and in-depth rules for games of Warhammer 40,000.

As you’d expect from a Chaos Daemons codex, there are rules for conquering in the name of blood, change, plague, or excess – or mixing things up by running a kaleidoscopic force drawn from the whole accursed pantheon.
There are more ways than ever to bend the mortal plane to your will, thanks to 56 datasheets split between the four Chaos Gods – and Be’lakor, with his very own Army of Renown – alongside 25 Warlord Traits, 24 Relics, 36 Stratagems, and a profane slate of psychic powers for all.*

Though mortals may cower and worlds may burn, the Dark Gods that command these incomprehensible hordes regard the war for existence as little more than an endless game – which you can play yourself, thanks to a comprehensive Crusade section.

We’ve got plenty of news about this daemonic force coming up shortly on Warhammer Community, which you can have delivered straight to your inbox via Geller-shielded emails by signing up for our newsletter.**

**blood reaper**

So how long did it take for Tyranids to get released after the initial announcement?

**Gert**

Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

**Voss**

Ok then...

this feels like everybody left getting pipped at the post, but.. fine.
No mention of models, which is a concern. (Thought that daemon prince is lurking about, but may be stuck with Slaves to Darkness in December).

Gert wrote:
Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

Feels a bit weird to me. The layout suggests a fifth figure (in the upper right) which implies a fifth god (the shadow suggests Belakor, not fanfic boy that was never in 40k), and the plaguebearer-that-looks-like-a-daemonette shouldn't really be the central figure.

**blood reaper**

Voss wrote:
Ok then...

this feels like everybody left getting pipped at the post, but.. fine. (it doesn't help that the article exists, but isn't on the front page of warcom yet, at least for me).

No mention of models, which is a concern. (Thought that daemon prince is lurking about, but may be stuck with Slaves to Darkness in December).

Gert wrote:
Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

Feels a bit weird to me. The layout suggests a fifth figure (in the upper right) which implies a fifth god, and the plaguebearer-that-looks-like-a-daemonette shouldn't really be the central figure.

I have no doubts we will see no new models. Daemons are a complete range with the oldest figures being plastic figures from like, 2008.

**H.B.M.C.**

Yeah this book will also have a Daemon Prince entry with a built-in Used By date.

Cool cover though.

**Dysartes**

So, current Chaos Daemons 'dex looks like it has 50 datasheets. Be'lakor will obviously be upgraded to the new version, but that's not an additional datasheet.

I can see that the Infernal Enrapturess, Syll’Esske and Shalaxi Helbane are missing, which might leave 3 datasheets unaccounted for at present?

**Voss**

blood reaper wrote:
Voss wrote:
Ok then...

this feels like everybody left getting pipped at the post, but.. fine. (it doesn't help that the article exists, but isn't on the front page of warcom yet, at least for me).

No mention of models, which is a concern. (Thought that daemon prince is lurking about, but may be stuck with Slaves to Darkness in December).

Gert wrote:
Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

Feels a bit weird to me. The layout suggests a fifth figure (in the upper right) which implies a fifth god, and the plaguebearer-that-looks-like-a-daemonette shouldn't really be the central figure.

I have no doubts we will see no new models. Daemons are a complete range with the oldest figures being plastic figures from like, 2008.

It'd be the first 9th edition codex with not even one. I also vaguely recall a promise that every 9e codex would have at least one model, but WarCom is terrible for hunting down old information.

**blood reaper**

Voss wrote:
blood reaper wrote:
Voss wrote:
Ok then...

this feels like everybody left getting pipped at the post, but.. fine. (it doesn't help that the article exists, but isn't on the front page of warcom yet, at least for me).

No mention of models, which is a concern. (Thought that daemon prince is lurking about, but may be stuck with Slaves to Darkness in December).

Gert wrote:
Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

Feels a bit weird to me. The layout suggests a fifth figure (in the upper right) which implies a fifth god, and the plaguebearer-that-looks-like-a-daemonette shouldn't really be the central figure.

I have no doubts we will see no new models. Daemons are a complete range with the oldest figures being plastic figures from like, 2008.

It'd be the first 9th edition codex with not even one. I also vaguely recall a promise that every 9e codex would have at least one model, but WarCom is terrible for hunting down old information.

MAYBE we'll get the new Daemon Prince with it? I mean what is there to replace? The old resin Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut?

**Voss**

blood reaper wrote:

MAYBE we'll get the new Daemon Prince with it? I mean what is there to replace? The old resin Herald of Khorne on Juggernaut?

That'd be a decent one. Or a herald of slaanesh on foot, rather than making do with a spare 'alluress' from the chariot kit, so a herald that actually looks important or stands out.
Or, you know, something new... There isn't actually a restriction on new things.

**Dysartes**

Looking at what's currently on the GW webstore, I see the following as still being "finely cast" resin:

Resin
- Herald of Slaanesh (on foot)
- Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch (on Disc)
- Epidemius
- The Blue Scribes

**H.B.M.C.**

Herald of Slaanesh on foot is what I'd expect.

**Tyran**

blood reaper wrote:
So how long did it take for Tyranids to get released after the initial announcement?

Like a month and half.

**jaredb**

Dysartes wrote:
So, current Chaos Daemons 'dex looks like it has 50 datasheets. Be'lakor will obviously be upgraded to the new version, but that's not an additional datasheet.

I can see that the Infernal Enrapturess, Syll’Esske and Shalaxi Helbane are missing, which might leave 3 datasheets unaccounted for at present?

From my counting, seems like 56 contains all the existing units.

**Garrac**

Updated!

**beast_gts**

The Chaos Furies that came out with Warcry haven't had their own release yet (they're still boxed with the Raptoryx).

**Garrac**

BTW aboutn ew models: according to the leaks there's going to be a new Rendmaster model for Khorne followers.

I don't have any complaints about daemons line, since they updated the horrors everything seems fine to me. There are other armies in most need, I think

**blood reaper**

If they replace the existing Rendmaster with a Herald on a proper Chariot I would forgive GW for many of its past sins.

**Dysartes**

jaredb wrote:
Dysartes wrote:
So, current Chaos Daemons 'dex looks like it has 50 datasheets. Be'lakor will obviously be upgraded to the new version, but that's not an additional datasheet.

I can see that the Infernal Enrapturess, Syll’Esske and Shalaxi Helbane are missing, which might leave 3 datasheets unaccounted for at present?

From my counting, seems like 56 contains all the existing units.

Huh - which three units (excluding the AoS Twins) did I forget?

**chaos0xomega**

Gert wrote:
Whoever did the CSM and Daemons covers has done a stellar job.

Also Adeptus Mechanicus and Genestealer Cults. Pretty sure they are all the same artist.

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Garrac wrote:
BTW aboutn ew models: according to the leaks there's going to be a new Rendmaster model for Khorne followers.

I don't have any complaints about daemons line, since they updated the horrors everything seems fine to me. There are other armies in most need, I think

The rumor that I saw seemed to be unaware that the Rendmaster was an existing unit/model already and assumed it was being added, so I'm not sure that theres something actually coming.

**Garrac**

chaos0xomega wrote:

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Garrac wrote:
BTW aboutn ew models: according to the leaks there's going to be a new Rendmaster model for Khorne followers.

I don't have any complaints about daemons line, since they updated the horrors everything seems fine to me. There are other armies in most need, I think

The rumor that I saw seemed to be unaware that the Rendmaster was an existing unit/model already and assumed it was being added, so I'm not sure that theres something actually coming.

Um... well, the article says there'll be 56 new datasheets, and the current codex has that 57...

(and yeah, it looks like to be the end of the furies)

**dan2026**

Be nice if we could at least get a new Epidemius.
His old model is more than a bit crap.

Have any of the codexes released with zero new models so far?
I expect Daemons to at least get one.

**Dudeface**

dan2026 wrote:
Be nice if we could at least get a new Epidemius.
His old model is more than a bit crap.

Have any of the codexes released with zero new models so far?
I expect Daemons to at least get one.

Imperial knights, but it's not that it'd be easy for them to have a small character exactly so I can understand that one.

Did dark eldar get any? I think they just got the battle box stuff release individually right?

**dan2026**

Dudeface wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
Be nice if we could at least get a new Epidemius.
His old model is more than a bit crap.

Have any of the codexes released with zero new models so far?
I expect Daemons to at least get one.

Imperial knights, but it's not that it'd be easy for them to have a small character exactly so I can understand that one.

Did dark eldar get any? I think they just got the battle box stuff release individually right?

They got Leilith didn't they?

**Daedalus81**

Dysartes wrote:
Looking at what's currently on the GW webstore, I see the following as still being "finely cast" resin:

Resin
- Herald of Slaanesh (on foot)
- Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch (on Disc)
- Epidemius
- The Blue Scribes

Maybe it's just me, but I'd love for them to redo the Scribes.

**Voss**

dan2026 wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
Be nice if we could at least get a new Epidemius.
His old model is more than a bit crap.

Have any of the codexes released with zero new models so far?
I expect Daemons to at least get one.

Imperial knights, but it's not that it'd be easy for them to have a small character exactly so I can understand that one.

Did dark eldar get any? I think they just got the battle box stuff release individually right?

They got Leilith didn't they?

Yes. It was extremely annoying, given how much that range needs.

**Dudeface**

Dysartes wrote:
Looking at what's currently on the GW webstore, I see the following as still being "finely cast" resin:

Resin
- Herald of Slaanesh (on foot)
- Fluxmaster, Herald of Tzeentch (on Disc)
- Epidemius
- The Blue Scribes

The fluxmaster can be built from the chariot, so I doubt it'll be on their radar.

**Fayric**

I usually just hope for decent rules for my soulgrinders, and that they bring over a Gaunt Summoner to 40k. But I dont expect it to happen this time either.

If GW took Chaos Daemons serious, I would expect them to update the soulgrinder with a more comic book approach -loads of swirly gak and over obvious bling and head options to clearly show their patron god. Probably with some new "must have" weapons options so the old model would be obsolete. But as they really dont care about chaos daemons, the old cool model will be safe for now.