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40k is a game that involves models. These models can be painted. When you play a game of 40k, what level of painting do you require for your enjoyment?

Fully painted, no exceptions. If it is not painted to at least basic tabletop standard it does not get used in a game. And if your army is not fully painted to that standard I will not play a game against you.

CadianSgtBob wrote:
Fully painted, no exceptions. If it is not painted to at least basic tabletop standard it does not get used in a game. And if your army is not fully painted to that standard I will not play a game against you.

Yeah, that's fair.
I don't feel the same way, but you don't have to game with people who aren't painted. Your standards are your own.

I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

I usually only play with fully painted Battle Ready models, but I will occasionally play with models that are works in progress. I make no demands on my opponent about painting, but I suppose I prefer playing against painted models. All else being equal of course.

Threads about having to paint models, though, tends to get heated for some reason. Worse than politics!

9 for me, if my choice is between playing vs an army that's unpainted vs a painted one, it's an easy choice for me. Painted, at least even a Lil bit is preferable to boring bare plastic.

When I play 30/40k/AT/AI/EPIC its for the spectacle of it and using my well painted miniatures for something other than JUST looking at. Bare plastic, while the miniatures themselves are sculpted well, look bland when unpainted.

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

Boo. You could at least try, even slow progress is better than nothing.

Edit: oh, you're that guy from reddit posting thousands of dollars of rare DKoK stuff and bragging about how much money you can spend without ever bothering to paint any of it. It's called a pile of shame for a reason, you know.

CadianSgtBob wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

Boo. You could at least try, even slow progress is better than nothing.

It’s not part of the hobby I enjoy. You can’t force someone to participate in something they don’t want to. It’d be like forcing someone who only builds the models to play the game.


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CadianSgtBob wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

Boo. You could at least try, even slow progress is better than nothing.

Edit: oh, you're that guy from reddit posting thousands of dollars of rare DKoK stuff and bragging about how much money you can spend without ever bothering to paint any of it. It's called a pile of shame for a reason, you know.

Screw you buddy.

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
It’s not part of the hobby I enjoy. You can’t force someone to participate in something they don’t want to. It’d be like forcing someone who only builds the models to play the game.

I can't force you, but I can certainly judge you for it. And I can judge you for posting "look at the size of my wallet" and bragging about how you don't bother to paint models a lot of us would kill to have.

Screw you buddy.

Looking forward to your inevitable ban, thanks.

CadianSgtBob wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
It’s not part of the hobby I enjoy. You can’t force someone to participate in something they don’t want to. It’d be like forcing someone who only builds the models to play the game.

I can't force you, but I can certainly judge you for it. And I can judge you for posting "look at the size of my wallet" and bragging about how you don't bother to paint models a lot of us would kill to have.

Screw you buddy.

Looking forward to your inevitable ban, thanks.

I can judge you for being a dick too.

I think he needs to be demoted to private...

I don't mind playing with/against bare plastic while trying out a game or if it's newly released minis and they haven't been painted yet. But generally i'd prefer at least some base colors and a shade thrown over the mini. I wouldn't ever bother telling someone what to do with their minis, but I can sure refuse to play.

Also when it comes to stuff like Frostgrave where you're fielding like 10 models, if you can't even be bothered to paint 10, to me that just seems low effort.

 JNAProductions wrote:
40k is a game that involves models. These models can be painted. When you play a game of 40k, what level of painting do you require for your enjoyment?

For me? Fully painted, table top standard (looks great from 3 feet - I almost paint exclusively with Contrast style paints now, they're that good). I consider myself to be a good painter. My figures look nice, but they will never win any painting awards.

For my opponent? No opinion. It's nice when they bring a fully painted army, but if they haven't had the time or inclination, I might gently rib them about it, but I'm just glad to be getting a game in.

(Full disclosure: I play only with friends, typically at our homes, frequently with a drink in hand, and we never play 40K)

Poll is tricky. I hold myself to a "painted only" standard 99% of the time. But I'll happily play against unpainted models.

Racerguy180 wrote:
I think he needs to be demoted to private...

Haha!

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:

CadianSgtBob wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

Boo. You could at least try, even slow progress is better than nothing.

It’s not part of the hobby I enjoy. You can’t force someone to participate in something they don’t want to. It’d be like forcing someone who only builds the models to play the game.


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CadianSgtBob wrote:

DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
I don’t paint my army so I don’t expect anyone else to. If someone wants to get uptight about it better they find someone who shares their extraordinary standards.

Boo. You could at least try, even slow progress is better than nothing.

Edit: oh, you're that guy from reddit posting thousands of dollars of rare DKoK stuff and bragging about how much money you can spend without ever bothering to paint any of it. It's called a pile of shame for a reason, you know.

Screw you buddy.

lol. I would get all excited about your rare models, get crushed by you in whatever non-40K sci fi game we opt to play, and then offer to paint 'em up for you. DKOK models are dang cool.

Well this thread's already off to a terrific start...

 Insectum7 wrote:
Poll is tricky. I hold myself to a "painted only" standard 99% of the time. But I'll happily play against unpainted models.

I'm exactly the same. I refuse to play with my unpainted models. My opponent on the other hand? I prefer painted models, but understand that it's something that takes time and effort. If they don't want to or can't, I'm not going to hold it against them and I'm still happy to play against their toys.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well this thread's already off to a terrific start...

Yeah, only about 20 replies and 5 are just people taking snarky shots at each other. Mostly just 2 people.

I for one like to have painted models on the table, but I picked 0 because I won't turn you away if yours aren't.

Greyicus Plasticus is the tribe of my people. I'm not expecting the new nid player to have all 150 of his extremely samey models all painted, nor would I care if he did. I'm just there to throw click clacks and make pew pew noises as I move my little men around.

For myself I always try to have a fully painted army, though I have used a unit or two that is either partially or unpainted to try them out on the battlefield.

Though I do like it when my opponent has a painted army I know not everyone has either the interest, time or money to get it fully painted so I no real issue for what my opponent brings.

All in all it evens out to a 5 on your scale.

FezzikDaBullgryn wrote:
Greyicus Plasticus is the tribe of my people. I'm not expecting the new nid player to have all 150 of his extremely samey models all painted, nor would I care if he did. I'm just there to throw click clacks and make pew pew noises as I move my little men around.

So why not play a better game, if the models are nothing but game tokens to be treated with contempt? Why buy GW models at all when you can use cardboard boxes and poker chips for everything?

CadianSgtBob wrote:
Fully painted, no exceptions. If it is not painted to at least basic tabletop standard it does not get used in a game. And if your army is not fully painted to that standard I will not play a game against you.

Wild. Seems pretty unreasonable. Everyone I know is cool with playing with people while they get their army painted.

Hecaton wrote:
Wild. Seems pretty unreasonable. Everyone I know is cool with playing with people while they get their army painted.

If you are a genuine newbie painting your first army and you are clearly making progress on it maybe we can make an exception temporarily. And I'll be happy to play a 500 point game (or even a kill team game with a single squad!) with fully painted armies if someone can't manage a full 2000 point standard game yet. But TBH that's not the case the vast majority of the time, it's people who have been in the game for years and refuse to ever paint anything. Those people are not welcome in my games.

I have zero "requirements" from my opponent in regards to their army other than it being assembled and not just using bases or something.

I paint slow and my painting abilities are pretty mediocre. There are times I feel like I'm actively ruining the model with my paint jobs. lol. But I am trying to get them painted up before I play my EC army.

But if my opponent is playing strictly unpainted it literally does nothing to my enjoyment. I want to play games. It serves me no purpose to cast judgement on a person for their army being unpainted. It's their models, not mine. They can do with them as they want. Unpainted models play just the same as painted ones so why should I give even a single care?

Just deploy and let's get to rolling dice and scooting soldiers.

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
Yeah, only about 20 replies and 5 are just people taking snarky shots at each other. Mostly just 2 people.

All it takes is one painting absolutist to scream about people having fun the wrong way, and the thread goes off the rails.

This thread didn't even make it to its second reply before that happened. And he's still going!

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Lord Blackscale wrote:
Yeah, only about 20 replies and 5 are just people taking snarky shots at each other. Mostly just 2 people.

All it takes is one painting absolutist to scream about people having fun the wrong way, and the thread goes off the rails.

This thread made it to Reply #1 for that to happen.

Eh, much as I dislike CSB, that response is fine. He wasn't dictating what other people should or shouldn't enjoy-only what he'd require to play against him.
There's nothing wrong with your standards being "Be painted or don't play me." The issue only arises if someone insists their way is required for everyone, regardless of what that way is.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
All it takes is one gray horde absolutist to scream about people having fun the wrong way, and the thread goes off the rails.

Yep.

PS: paint your models.

I won't field an army until it is basically Battleready save putting a shade/wash on. Note: I can't remember is shade/washes is a Battleready thing. In fact, I just so happen to have my Chaos Knight army very close, but not quite ready enough to be used on the table.



And the requirement becomes more stringent for myself once I have a fully painted army. Any additions also have to be fully painted to be fielded. Which helps prevent a growing pile of unpainted stuff. Additionally, fully painted factions take priority over partly painted factions when it comes to which I choose to play.

As for my opponent, they don't have to have painted stuff vs. me, but it's always a bonus. I like to take pictures during my games (a good 75% of why I play miniatures war games is just to take pictures of them during games). If my opponent has an unpainted army, I actively try not to include their models in my pictures. That's about as harsh as I get.

CadianSgtBob wrote:
Yep.

PS: paint your models.

No.

PS: Don't expect of require people to engage in parts of the hobby they don't enjoy.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
PS: Don't expect of require people to engage in parts of the hobby they don't enjoy.

Why are you so incapable of accepting that I will not play a game against people like you? Why do you have to come in here and complain about the mere fact that I dared to post an opinion about how I enjoy the game in a way that you don't like?