Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors

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**Ohman**

So, similar to how Warmaster was sold? There was no two-faction starter as I recall but single faction armyboxes bundled with the rulebook.

**Vorian**

But that rumour says a 2 faction starter:

TK vs Bret (not) starter dropping last week Jan/first week Feb, price will be £185

**Ohman**

Vorian wrote:
But that rumour says a 2 faction starter:

TK vs Bret (not) starter dropping last week Jan/first week Feb, price will be £185

Oh, right. So there are conflicting rumors then.

**Vorian**

Yup, Valrak was two separate boxes - two new heroes (Pegasus and TK Dragon) but didn't mention the new foot knights.

New rumour has that Dragon as a chariot.

Hastings was always pretty spot on from what I remember.

**Geifer**

Sand mummies, huh? I wonder how that might go. Apophas, but with sand instead of scarabs? A Sharknado with ravenous mummies sticking out of whirling sand? Dessicated dead without wrapping, preserved by the desert?

**Hellebore**

If they're making a chariot that means new skeleton horses.

So they could be cheeky and half update tomb King cavalry by replacing their horses with the new ones.

**Geifer**

They'll be the king's horses pulling the king's chariot. I'd expect a ton of bling on them that makes them specific to the kit and not suitable for other units, even if GW put them on their own sprue.

**chaos0xomega**

Sathrut wrote:
Those rumours from 4chan seem be taken from Hasting's post on War of Sigmar:

Spoiler:

Well, I hear there's only 2 new (plastic) kits for TK, one a hero/lord on chariot, the other a unit of sand mummies (whatever that means).
The (not) starter box (TK v Brets) will drop last week Jan/first week Feb at a cost of 185 gbp. It contains only plastic models, so none of the new resins, old resin/metal minis, although these will launch at around the same time, possibly even the following week/fortnight, along with standalone rulebook and plastics from the not starter box. There will be some "quality of life" stuff the following month (plastic templates, dice etc.), and in late summer another box of Orcs vs Empire, apparently O&G get one new plastic kit (possibly boar chariot) and empire gets 3 plastic kits. There is a new "narrative" book to go alongside these releases, as the first release the components from this bunch will release "soon"(tm) afterwards, along with a couple of NEW resin pieces for both, one of which is a named Orc character

Summary:

TK only receive two new plastic kits: Hero/Lord on chariot, and a unit of "sand mummies"

TK vs Bret (not) starter dropping last week Jan/first week Feb, price will be £185

Will only contain plastic models, none of the new resin/old resin/metal minis

New resin/old resin/metal minis will launch around the same time, possibly the following week/fortnight alongside standalone rulebooks and plastics from the "not starter"

"Quality of life" stuff the following month (plastic templates, dice etc.)

Late summer box of Orcs vs Empire, O&G receive one new plastic kit (possibly boar chariot), Empire 3 plastic kits

New "narrative" book to go alongside these releases, components from this bunch will release "soon" afterwards, along with a couple of new resin pieces for both, one of which is a named Orc character

Hasting also commented "I have heard that the TK chariot is beautiful, and having seen the new Bret stuff I don't doubt that."

Seems plausible. Seeing a new plastic chariot next to the 20+ year old ones will be jarring, especially since the core of the army is going to be based on 20+ year old kits, the same ones that are (one) of the main reasons people never started TK.

This flies in the face of earlier rumors (from Valrak?) which seem increasingly accurate based on what was revealed this weekend with regards to Bretonnia. We were told no 2-player box and instead individual faction boxes. We were also told that the Tomb Kings were getting a bone dragon ridden by a Liche or something to go opposite the Bretonnian pegasus hero. We even have what appears to be a rumor engine preview of the bone dragons wing. I'm hesitant to believe this is accurate.

Also have a hard time believing they would release a new plastic hero on chariot and not also have it be able to build a non-hero chariot option.

**RazorEdge**

Sathrut wrote:
Those rumours from 4chan seem be taken from Hasting's post on War of Sigmar:

Fun fact: those Rumors from that Mikhael are few hours older than Hastings.

They sound plausible. Both seems to have their informations from the same source?

**kodos**

chaos0xomega wrote:
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Also have a hard time believing they would release a new plastic hero on chariot and not also have it be able to build a non-hero chariot option.

same with the Pegapony for Bretonnia, so not unlikely

**RazorEdge**

Fresh from Reddit (4chan/Discord)

https://boards.4channel.org/tg/thread/90595544#p90597307

**lord_blackfang**

All sensible choices except the Great Cannon, that doesn't seem like a necessary update... ?

**Shakalooloo**

lord_blackfang wrote:
All sensible choices except the Great Cannon, that doesn't seem like a necessary update... ?

Maybe a more 'old-fashioned' cannon to go with the time period? I'm not up on how quickly gunpowder tech advanced in the Empire.

**chaos0xomega**

I didn't think the Empire had cannon until after the Nuln engineering/gunnery school was established, which hasn't happened yet in lore?

Also, I could have sworn Mikhael was identified as a fraud at some point in the past couple years? Might be confusing him with someone else, but I recall someone was posting rumors to reddit which ended up being total bs. Could have sworn it was him.

**Londinium**

RazorEdge wrote:
Found on 4chan:

Am I too optimistic for thinking that the 'Compendium Book' could be this generation's 6e Ravening Hordes?

Yes. Probably. I can hope though.

**Segersgia**

The Empire has the Steam Tank in this era. The main thing the Empire currently lacks during this time is Wizards. The college of Magic won't be a thing until after the Great War Against Chaos ends.

**Mallo**

Londinium wrote:
RazorEdge wrote:
Found on 4chan:

Am I too optimistic for thinking that the 'Compendium Book' could be this generation's 6e Ravening Hordes?

Yes. Probably. I can hope though.

Worse still the rumour actually reads 'Compendium BookS'

I suspect we will multiple 'get you by' books that will be outdated within a month, as soon as the first standalone army book/narrative book is released separately.

I'm not against the idea of them doing this, to get the game going quickly at least. But when they charge what they do for books and they become outdated almost instantly, whats the point. By the time you get a new force painted up from scratch, the first books will be invalidated. Might as well wait for the next batch of book releases tbh

**Kid_Kyoto**

Maybe the 'Great Cannon' is a new weapon, a huge siege gun versus the normal not-so-great cannons?

It would make for a nice center piece for Empire armies.

**Fayric**

Rather than Horus Hersy style "we present, EVEN BIGGER CANNON" I would prefer crazy empire stuff like the land boat on wheels, or the war wagon

.

**Platuan4th**

The "land boat on wheels" was built by Marienburg after its independence in 2429, nearly 1000 years after TOW is set.

**Kid_Kyoto**

There could be more than one land boat.

But gosh, no land boats, no wizards, it's really making me wonder why they made TOW a prequel.

**nels1031**

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
There could be more than one land boat.

But gosh, no land boats, no wizards, it's really making me wonder why they made TOW a prequel.

There were Imperial Wizards prior to the formation to the College of Magic. They were just highly suspect and ill-trained. Usually called hedge-wizards from what I recall.

**nathan2004**

Part of me would kill for a freaking War Wagon...dang I loved that model but never was able to acquire it.

**Ohman**

nathan2004 wrote:
Part of me would kill for a freaking War Wagon...dang I loved that model but never was able to acquire it.

GW did a MTO for the old Halfling Hot Pot a few years ago. So I have slowly been building up some hope that they might be able to do a MTO for the old 90s Empire range.

**Mallo**

nathan2004 wrote:
Part of me would kill for a freaking War Wagon...dang I loved that model but never was able to acquire it.

I got myself one not so long ago, but damn had I been hoping this would be the perfect chance to finally see one in plastic! I do not know how people got theirs built to stay together 30 years ago, other than superglue has gotten worse as time has gone on!

I'm dreading getting mine done, as the parts are so thin!

With TOW being a 'prequel', I would think they would use this as a chance to update older 80s designs like the war wagon in place of canons and big griffin models etc

But from the sounds of the rumours, we are just getting 8th ed left overs, AoS leftovers but a new cannon!

**Darnok**

I think people should take a deep breath. Getting worked up over what might not be coming, just because of some rumours? Yeah yeah, this is the internet and all that... but still.

Concerning a War Wagon in plastic: could happen for the initial Empire wave (despite the latest rumours), or later. Or - and I consider this more likely - it will get a FW resin model. For now I remain in the "wait and see" camp.

**pgmason**

Platuan4th wrote:
The "land boat on wheels" was built by Marienburg after its independence in 2429, nearly 1000 years after TOW is set.

Too many zeroes. ToW is set in the lead-up to the Great War Against Chaos, which was around 2300.

**triplegrim**

So, price of 185 GBP. What will be in the boxes.

Will they be the size of those old Army deal boxes?

**kodos**

more like 1 of each unit + 1 plastic hero
the plastic Bretonnia content shown will likely be the one in the box

**chaos0xomega**

Previous rumor was that the *standalone* Bretonnian box would have had a Pegapony hero, 12 horsey knights, 36 bowmen, 36 men at arms - no mention of foot knights. Not sure if that would justify 1/2 of the 185 GBP price, I would personally lean towards no.