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chaos0xomega wrote:

Also curious, it says nightgoblin kits will be released later... are they talking about a different nightgoblin kit from the one currently available for AoS (which itself was a whfb kit)?

2 possibilities here
the currently sold snap-fit/one-piece former core box models are removed from AoS with 4th Edi and re-released for TOW
or the older multi-part night goblin kit returns for TOW

 Mallo wrote:

 Bonegrinder wrote:
MTO Stone Trolls are going to bankrupt me! Deffo getting that army box to go with my Black Orcs, but those chariot boars look very dated next to the "newer" boar boyz. Anyone know if it's possible to replace the older boars with the boar boyz ones, how much converting it would take?

I'll happily field them either way.

Same! Stone trolls are my favourite and being made to order I'll have no idea on how many to get and will have a panic over it!

I'm really excited to see a troll army list! I have a ridiculous amount of trolls anyway (and currently building 12 more AoS ones right now!) and I'm clearly going to panic buy MTO ones! I guess they are bringing back the 'common' troll as the standard one because the stone trolls are easily available, where as the common ones never seemed that popular.

I was surprised to see ogres as part of the release, I don't know which models they will be.

Does anyone have a picture of how the models for the common trolls looks?

I read it that night gobbos get sigmarfied sometime in the next 12 months and the current box gets relegated to old world.

Reading between the lines, I think this likely does confirm that beastmen don't have long left in AoS, or are getting a wholesale redesign.

I could imagine them getting a redesign. I mean there were four army refreshes last year.

 triplegrim wrote:


Does anyone have a picture of how the models for the common trolls looks?

Its these ones, came out around the same time as Battle for skull pass to match the plastic ones. Never actually seen them for sale anywhere though, don't think they sold well.

I like em, for what they are. Have three plastic ones collecting dust somewhere. But I ain't paying MTO prices. Maybe if someone 3d scans these...

Marauder Giant?

Made to Order?

And the 1993 Wyvern kit?

SING HOSANNAS!

The 1993 Orc Shaman on Wyvern is wild to me. I may need to get that - even in resin - just to recreate the battle of Tor Yvresse.

RazorEdge wrote:
With the 6th Edition Starter Set Ork Part; I hope for the old State Troops of the Empire to Return...

The chariot was in the starter set, but the orcs aren't the ones from the starter set, they are from the same time but multipart with weapon options. The starter set were one piece and stuck with two hand weapons.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The 1993 Orc Shaman on Wyvern is wild to me. I may need to get that - even in resin - just to recreate the battle of Tor Yvresse.

They need to do a MTO of 5th Ed Brets. And I'll need to remortgage.

I hope the Troll Hag means they'll use the Merwyrm as the "big" High Elf model, I always wanted one but losing interest in 8th killed my motivation to buy one.

(I'd also love to see the big FW chaos Dragon as well).

 Dawnbringer wrote:

The chariot was in the starter set, but the orcs aren't the ones from the starter set, they are from the same time but multipart with weapon options. The starter set were one piece and stuck with two hand weapons.

This is the 6th ed starter set and two command sprues.

This really is an interesting project.

Whilst I want them to get on with Kislev and Chaos Stunties, I now can’t help but wonder if we might see a MTO of other Oldhammer stuff.

I’d love some early lesser Daemons.

Will finally be able to get the last Stone Trolls I need! Also a Marauder Giant....nice!

 Shadow Walker wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Also curious, it says nightgoblin kits will be released later... are they talking about a different nightgoblin kit from the one currently available for AoS (which itself was a whfb kit)?

Or they will get Skull Pass one where the current will stay with AOS?

What if it's these ones?
I think I've got about a hundred of them somewhere in my parents house.

I personly dont think they will do stuff for legends armys only for the 9 in the game. But we can hope
Half of my Orc units are those from the starter set and the one piece nightgoblins.
I hope the bring back the those nightgoblins and not the old ones, they are to big.

 skeleton wrote:
I personly dont think they will do stuff for legends armys only for the 9 in the game. But we can hope

They were pretty clear about that.

That Black Orc warboss doesn't look very black. If anything, he's lighter than any of the other boyz!

chaos0xomega wrote:
I am stunned by the lack of new plastic kits. I figured they'd do.... more?

Also curious, it says nightgoblin kits will be released later... are they talking about a different nightgoblin kit from the one currently available for AoS (which itself was a whfb kit)?

Honestly atleast the wolfriders and the arty could've been done..

They already did those in Sigmar.

They mention Big 'Uns are getting released too. Did they have specific models in 6th or 7th, different from the Boyz?

They have at different times. Couldn’t tell you which editions though.

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 Dawnbringer wrote:

The chariot was in the starter set, but the orcs aren't the ones from the starter set, they are from the same time but multipart with weapon options. The starter set were one piece and stuck with two hand weapons.

Spoiler:

This is the 6th ed starter set and two command sprues.

Ah missed that as they aren't in the box set and I didn't cycle through the photo thing. I'm guess it's done as it's the one way to get Arrer Boyz

They definitely had specific models in the 5th Ed era (which scale with the newer plastic boys), it’d be even more nostalgia-tastic if they brought back the ones from Warhammer Quest Lair of the Orc Lord as well.

I only remember metal ones from 5th edition, but they were smaller than 6th plastic Boyz, so I used them the other way round.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:
https://www.warhammer.com/en-US/shop/dragon-2022

If I put the chaos lord from the manticore kit on that would that work?

Iirc the dragon is actually fairly small, not sire it'll look right.

The dragon isn't even that small. It's on a 120mm x 95mm oval base. It's larger than the Karkadrak the AoS Chaos Lord rides. I want to say the body without head or tail is about 20% longer, but take that as a rough estimate only. If a Chaos Lord looks good on a Karkadrak or Juggernaut, it'll look good on the LotR dragon. The only thing about it is that it looks small compared to recent, humongous AoS centerpiece kits. For an Old World dragon its size is fine. Might even be a bit on the large side. I don't know what base size a Chaos Dragon has.

I think a rider could be placed on the neck/shoulder with little conversion work. You'd have to do something about the spines on the dragon's back, unless it's a Slaanesh Lord of course, but the neck should be slim enough to fit a modern mounted Chaos model (or the Blood Dragon from the Zombie Dragon kit, for that matter).

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Both characters are great but why resin? Couldn't they make at least one in plastic?

They're probably resin because they're people sized rather than mounted on monsters. Considering that the budget for new plastic kits of The Old World appears to be very limited (regardless of what an awkward choice the crocodragon is in that regard), I guess Orcs and Goblins are just victims of too little neglect back in the day. They used to get more models than Tomb Kings, and way more than Bretonnians that just didn't get anything after 6th ed. Now Bretonnians get the most new releases of the armies announced so far, and Orcs and Goblins the least. It looks to me like GW is aiming for a kind of parity of army ranges rather than new model kits, which if true means more complete, more modern ranges lose out.

We'll have to see how it goes with future army releases.

Maybe orc and goblins didn’t get anything because they have so many new AOS kits that can be used?

Snarlfang for wolf rider
Rockgut troggs for stone trolls
Basically all the gloomspite squigs and champions
Etc

O&G has a pretty large range to choose from IMO plus stuff that can definitely serve from the AoS range.

Bretonnia has a fair whack less and a good chunk of the units come from one kit, the Knights. TK could probably stand to gain more, but I think they need sculpt updates more than anything else.

I'd be shocked to see new additions to the other factions as well. They're pretty "modern" as is and have substantial rosters of kits to pull from.

No Savage orcs so i guess Bonesplitterz are safe for now. They manage to beat the doomposting

aside from that I'm surprise they didn't get any plastic but aside from that majority of the models hold up imo




apart from the Boar chariots i can't say any of these look as terrible as the TK ones. I guess my question now it hard confirm that don't want any overlapped with AOS what are they going to do with cross setting models like Stabbas once they update in AOS? are the old ones just going to be given to TOW? does TOW just get their own version?

The new Shaman and Warboss are pretty awesome sculpts.

For some reason, the re-release of the Goblin kit bothers me so much more than the TK skeleton kit. They and the Night Goblin kit of that era were so poorly proportioned. A goblin as tall as a human and wider than a dwarf…

Don’t get me wrong, I bought plenty of them when it was a new and novel concept to have these multi-part plastic kits, but even compared to their contemporary Skellies and Zombies(also bought a ton!), it was a laughably bad kit.

Will the digital versions of Forces of Fantasy and Ravening Hordes be made available for purchase soon?

If anyone has a copy of the released books, can I take dwarf allies with a Bretonnia army?


I am awaiting my core rule book in the mail but was hoping to purchase a digital copy of the army books. I think the mentioned at one point that these would be made available but have seen no mention of them lately.

As an Oldhammer player I have to say I am pretty excited about the way this game appears based on videos reviewing it.