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The TOW Books are printed in China?

I don't get their priting policy LI is all printed in the UK, so AoS and 40k.

rollthebones wrote:
Does anyone know roughly the lead times on GW hardback reprints for in-demand items? I missed out on Forces of Fantasy so keen to know how long it might be before we see them again. Not sure if they're printed here/Europe or in China.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered already. Didn't see it anywhere.

Why don't you get it from third parties? It's available all over the place.

RazorEdge wrote:
The TOW Books are printed in China?

I don't get their priting policy LI is all printed in the UK, so AoS and 40k.

Not every printing will necessarily be printed in the same location. Typically, a publisher would prefer to print in China because all else being equal it will be cheaper than printing in the US, UK or Europe. However, if the time is of the essence, or shipping costs increase significantly (as they are doing at the moment), then that same publisher may feel that a reprint in the UK or Europe is justified in allowing them to bring the book back into stock more quickly. Looking at where previous books were printed won't necessarily tell you how GW might approach reprints.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

rollthebones wrote:
Does anyone know roughly the lead times on GW hardback reprints for in-demand items? I missed out on Forces of Fantasy so keen to know how long it might be before we see them again. Not sure if they're printed here/Europe or in China.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered already. Didn't see it anywhere.

Why don't you get it from third parties? It's available all over the place.

Is it? Where? I can't find it anywhere!

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

rollthebones wrote:
Does anyone know roughly the lead times on GW hardback reprints for in-demand items? I missed out on Forces of Fantasy so keen to know how long it might be before we see them again. Not sure if they're printed here/Europe or in China.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered already. Didn't see it anywhere.

Why don't you get it from third parties? It's available all over the place.

Maybe he wants a hard copy?

 nathan2004 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

rollthebones wrote:
Does anyone know roughly the lead times on GW hardback reprints for in-demand items? I missed out on Forces of Fantasy so keen to know how long it might be before we see them again. Not sure if they're printed here/Europe or in China.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered already. Didn't see it anywhere.

Why don't you get it from third parties? It's available all over the place.

Maybe he wants a hard copy?

hard copies were in my local store -walked in yesterday and picked up the rulebook and two army books

 Thargrim wrote:
The lack of any new plastic kit for O&G is a bit surprising. But the 2 new resin sculpts are solid. I hope they put more effort into the Wood Elves than this though. With all these old models coming back i'm really hoping for a resin version of that old chaos sorcerer that had the horns and hood with the tentacle hand around a book, I think it had a face on the back of it's hood as well. I deeply regret not grabbing that sculpt before they replaced it with the far more bland and boring modern one. I really hope any new chaos stuff harkens back to that older style.

Does anyone know which sorcerer Thargrim is referring to here? Curious if I have him in my collection.

This one?

Quite excited to see that the metal Stone Trolls are being made again! I'll definitely fill out my unit, because I love those models.

Might grab some more wolf riders and common goblins as well.

Apparently, I can never have enough Trolls, Goblins and Wolf Riders (glances at Oathmark and Middle Earth model pile).

I already have 3 large regiments of common Orcs and a big Black Orc regiment, as well as 15 boar boyz, so I don't think I need anything else there. And I prefer Mantic's Warboss on Wyvern to GW's.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
This one?

Thank you!

RazorEdge wrote:
The TOW Books are printed in China?

I don't get their priting policy LI is all printed in the UK, so AoS and 40k.

LI was originally printed in China.

Then they had to redact all books and get replacements printed FAST.

China does not equal fast print and delivery.

Any source on that or is it just rumour?

It's true, it can take months for an order to get here by boat.

 Gert wrote:
Any source on that or is it just rumour?

You hadn't heard how GW told all the books they had sent in advance to be returned? With print in china in them. There was SOME sort of issue that needed new print run that also resulted in differing cover.

That's why legions came out in december when originally was for august(and the typical youtubers already had boxes delivered for the videos. Until GW said "send the books, keep the models".

Only rumour is regarding what exactly caused the pullback. Some people speculate on catastrophic error in rules that made rulebook unworkable, others there was quote that would be...less than good politically. Others some sort of printing oddity like upside down pages.

Nobody has confirmed what it was.

What we do know is early summer youtubers got the starting boxes, it had books printed in China, then GW told to send books back and suddenly GW announces delay for LI. Then comes new printed in UK with differing cover books.

And if you mean by speed...Well as lord blackfang said boats ain't fastest way to deliver ;-) And if you go for air mail might just as well save cash and print on UK.

Boats are slow. Cargo by boats doesn't happen overnight. Cheap though. Which is why they are used when large amount of cargo needs to be delivered cheaply and speed isn't issue.

 march10k wrote:

Skywave wrote:I'll have to look if I have the mounted herald for the TK, don't remember if I have one and if he survived the years without being converted and cut to pieces! That's the only piece from this release that I'm not sure I have, the rest are all accounted for!

This one? I'll be fielding him for one simple reason: He's the only one I've got. I don't mind the model, it's just that I don't need the movement, so the 12 points is a tax, lol. I picked him up second hand for "resurrect two chariots" shenanigans in AOS, only bothered repainting the standard, may have to clean up the rest of him now...

Spoiler:

Yep that one! Pretty sure I don't have one so I'm gonna need to get that! I converted a regular, non-BSB Herald back in the day, to add some "punch" to the unit (doesn't really work), but a BSB one would be fun to have too!

Also that Bretonnian Paladin on foot from Warhammer quest is a classic, would not mind getting one (crossing finger on prices).

tneva82 wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Any source on that or is it just rumour?

You hadn't heard how GW told all the books they had sent in advance to be returned? With print in china in them. There was SOME sort of issue that needed new print run that also resulted in differing cover.

That's why legions came out in december when originally was for august(and the typical youtubers already had boxes delivered for the videos. Until GW said "send the books, keep the models".

Only rumour is regarding what exactly caused the pullback. Some people speculate on catastrophic error in rules that made rulebook unworkable, others there was quote that would be...less than good politically. Others some sort of printing oddity like upside down pages.

Nobody has confirmed what it was.

What we do know is early summer youtubers got the starting boxes, it had books printed in China, then GW told to send books back and suddenly GW announces delay for LI. Then comes new printed in UK with differing cover books.

And if you mean by speed...Well as lord blackfang said boats ain't fastest way to deliver ;-) And if you go for air mail might just as well save cash and print on UK.

Boats are slow. Cargo by boats doesn't happen overnight. Cheap though. Which is why they are used when large amount of cargo needs to be delivered cheaply and speed isn't issue.

Also wouldn't be surprised if TOW was meant to launch at the time of the '40 years of Warhammer' thing ending and was bumped back into 2024 by the IA cock up. Seems very weird marketing to have that run of articles end with basically nothing and then for TOW to release just a couple months later, in a traditionally dead retail month of January. Lends more credence to the rumours of some massive IA cock up.

The damsels are mighty tempting.

I obviously did not mean the speed of transport between China and the UK.

I'm going to assume you meant to say "recall" and not "redact" in your original post because those are two very different things.

 Scottywan82 wrote:
The damsels are mighty tempting.

I'd just started on the hunt for them as I need them for a completely-unrelated-to-warhammer project I'm collecting minis for.

Then I went and brought a Bretonnian army, so now I need another one on top for that army too.

I really hope the MTO prices are not too rough. I can see those Lords/BSB costing more than the forgeworld version to encourage people to buy the 'cheaper' FW version of the BSB.

Does the beastmen cockatrice have a model already?

 triplegrim wrote:
Does the beastmen cockatrice have a model already?

There was a finecast version of it at one stage. I wound up with 3 because of Finecast print errors. Nice looking model honestly, save for the finecast.

They put out some very funky monsters in the last days of Fantasy. Sadly they were all Failcast. Jabberslythe is from that same wave, isn't it?

Seems the page is still there:

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Cockatrice

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They put out some very funky monsters in the last days of Fantasy. Sadly they were all Failcast. Jabberslythe is from that same wave, isn't it?

Yeah, and the Shaggoth too, as I recall. I was bummed they were Finecast at the time and still hope for eventual plastic replacements.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They put out some very funky monsters in the last days of Fantasy. Sadly they were all Failcast. Jabberslythe is from that same wave, isn't it?

Yeah, and the Shaggoth too, as I recall. I was bummed they were Finecast at the time and still hope for eventual plastic replacements.

I believe the Shaggoth was originally metal and pre-dated Finecast.

 Thargrim wrote:
The lack of any new plastic kit for O&G is a bit surprising. But the 2 new resin sculpts are solid. I hope they put more effort into the Wood Elves than this though. With all these old models coming back i'm really hoping for a resin version of that old chaos sorcerer that had the horns and hood with the tentacle hand around a book, I think it had a face on the back of it's hood as well. I deeply regret not grabbing that sculpt before they replaced it with the far more bland and boring modern one. I really hope any new chaos stuff harkens back to that older style.

Pretty much the entire night goblin range has been updated under aos, so maybe that's why there isn't a new plastic kit

I might have gotten carried away buying at the flagship store in Grapevine, Tx yesterday lol

 Mr Morden wrote:

 nathan2004 wrote:

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

rollthebones wrote:
Does anyone know roughly the lead times on GW hardback reprints for in-demand items? I missed out on Forces of Fantasy so keen to know how long it might be before we see them again. Not sure if they're printed here/Europe or in China.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered already. Didn't see it anywhere.

Why don't you get it from third parties? It's available all over the place.

Maybe he wants a hard copy?

hard copies were in my local store -walked in yesterday and picked up the rulebook and two army books

Maybe in the UK, not in the US. I have 3 local game shops, one of which is a Warhammer Store and none of them had any books or cards left as of this afternoon. The Warhammer Store had a couple Tomb Kings army boxes left, but everything else was sold out completely at all 3 shops. The online stores appear to also be sold out. I would have dropped $170 for hardback books today if anyone had them, but the only option now is wait months for a reprint or buy the digital copies. There's no chance in hell I'm paying $128 for digital books.

My friend bought the Tomb Kings army, I'll need to share his book or else sail the high seas, potentially for months. Reading through the Facebook and Reddit groups, I'm not alone in that

And i just saw the profile of Chaos warriors.....
And the Rest of the list, because i got curious....

Dragon Lord spam and marauder cheerleaders, great...


But in regards to Chaos warriors:" Look how they masacred my boy!"

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They put out some very funky monsters in the last days of Fantasy. Sadly they were all Failcast. Jabberslythe is from that same wave, isn't it?

Yeah, and the Shaggoth too, as I recall. I was bummed they were Finecast at the time and still hope for eventual plastic replacements.

The Shaggoth is way older. 2003? I think, with the 6th Ed Beasts of Chaos release. It was one of the more impressive models (and pieces of art) when I got into the hobby in 2005.