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 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

Why they don't just bundle the fanatics with the unit I'll never know. Has anyone ever taken Night Goblins without fanatics?

Oh, man. Looks like I might be making my first GW purchases in a while.

Orc Shaman is one of the few things missing from my Orc army, and I could do with some more wolf riders and chariots...

 Mallo wrote:
There were absolutely no hints at all that these ones would be back

Except it was obvious given all the other maneuvers GW took to separate AoS and TOW.

It's amazing how something so obvious can still somehow surprise people. It was either this or they would release a new kit for AoS and send the current one back to TOW, there weren't really any other options.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

Why they don't just bundle the fanatics with the unit I'll never know. Has anyone ever taken Night Goblins without fanatics?

I'm really hoping that kit comes back. It had fun bits, like a snotling (two maybe?), a cauldron, some bugs and a stalagmite.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

Why they don't just bundle the fanatics with the unit I'll never know. Has anyone ever taken Night Goblins without fanatics?

Fanatics are the reason to take Night Goblins.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

Why they don't just bundle the fanatics with the unit I'll never know. Has anyone ever taken Night Goblins without fanatics?

Fanatics are the reason to take Night Goblins.

Talking of, how do people feel about the new iteration of their rules? No more throwing them out as a charge reaction is a significant change but it also now appears that you can deploy them while fleeing and, as confirmed by the FAQ, in combat.

ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

The "current" one is 'Technically' for AoS though. The set the others have posted above is the one I was referring too which is the one I was expecting too see returned, which I think was the 7th (? Possible 8th?) edition one that was scaled more inline with the Skull pass Night goblins. They are also more in line/scale with the current available night goblin kit (sold under the AoS line) but I suspect that kit will be scrapped for a new version once AoS 4th gets to its refresh later this year/next year. (much like the skaven clan rats recently did)

Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Fanatics are the reason to take Night Goblins.

Honestly, it should just be known as the fanatics army. Night goblins are just the delivery system after all.

Judging by the painted NG, it looks like they will have smooth round shields, not the moulded details of the originals. Gotta sell those transfers!

And that axe on the Men-at-Arms' shields is NOT on the Bretonnian transfer sheet - were they all free-handed?

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Judging by the painted NG, it looks like they will have smooth round shields, not the moulded details of the originals. Gotta sell those transfers!

And that axe on the Men-at-Arms' shields is NOT on the Bretonnian transfer sheet - were they all free-handed?

Were the shields a separate sprue in that kit or were they part of the same sprue as the Night Goblins themselves? GW won't have removed any details that appeared on the models, though they could pack them with a different shield sprue if they were separate.

Greenfield wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Judging by the painted NG, it looks like they will have smooth round shields, not the moulded details of the originals. Gotta sell those transfers!

And that axe on the Men-at-Arms' shields is NOT on the Bretonnian transfer sheet - were they all free-handed?

Were the shields a separate sprue in that kit or were they part of the same sprue as the Night Goblins themselves? GW won't have removed any details that appeared on the models, though they could pack them with a different shield sprue if they were separate.

Separate shield sprue here’s the original sprue http://solegends.com/citcat2000/c2000p304-01.htm

The command sprue is the shared sprue that had goblin, Skaven and Undead bits on it.

It looks like they come with the 1993 round shield sprue or a version of it rather than the one with the separate icons.

Greenfield wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Judging by the painted NG, it looks like they will have smooth round shields, not the moulded details of the originals. Gotta sell those transfers!

And that axe on the Men-at-Arms' shields is NOT on the Bretonnian transfer sheet - were they all free-handed?

Were the shields a separate sprue in that kit or were they part of the same sprue as the Night Goblins themselves? GW won't have removed any details that appeared on the models, though they could pack them with a different shield sprue if they were separate.

There was a separate sprue that had the shields, each with a hole in the middle where one of several options could be inserted, from an evil moon to an evil eye.

Maybe they lost the molds for the original sprue? Or it's unsalvageable?

Man those NGs take me back.

I have >250 of the latest night goblins, and will not be using the re-released old ones as they look awful.

There was a player 20 odd years ago who ran 400 in a 2000 point army and they looked good in a huge wave, but the newer ones in AOS are just so much better.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


I suspect that means we will see the metal fanatics return then rather than the plastic kit...I like the sculpts but they are a pain to balance on the bases.

Wasn’t there another plastic kit before the current one? With like 3 in it.

Why they don't just bundle the fanatics with the unit I'll never know. Has anyone ever taken Night Goblins without fanatics?

Fanatics are the reason to take Night Goblins.

Talking of, how do people feel about the new iteration of their rules? No more throwing them out as a charge reaction is a significant change but it also now appears that you can deploy them while fleeing and, as confirmed by the FAQ, in combat.

In their current iteration, they are a bit much, I fully expect them to get toned down with an update in the future.

I'm surprised they are bringing back the OLD Night goblins. I would have thought they would have retired the current plastic kit and made a new one for AoS so we could get the current kit moved over.

I might actually get a box now just for the hell of it.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
I'm surprised they are bringing back the OLD Night goblins. I would have thought they would have retired the current plastic kit and made a new one for AoS so we could get the current kit moved over.

I might actually get a box now just for the hell of it.

The current kit was made for AoS and has always been a Gloomspite unit. Especially the alternate build with the poisonous fungus puffballs that instead of the cannonballs. The old plastic kit from the picture above was the last Warhammer FB incarnation.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
I'm surprised they are bringing back the OLD Night goblins. I would have thought they would have retired the current plastic kit and made a new one for AoS so we could get the current kit moved over.

I might actually get a box now just for the hell of it.

The current kit was made for AoS and has always been a Gloomspite unit. Especially the alternate build with the poisonous fungus puffballs that instead of the cannonballs. The old plastic kit from the picture above was the last Warhammer FB incarnation.

You appear to be talking about the Fanatics; Commodus Leitdorf was probably referring to the basic Night Goblin infantry (with spear/sword/bow options).

 Coenus Scaldingus wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
I'm surprised they are bringing back the OLD Night goblins. I would have thought they would have retired the current plastic kit and made a new one for AoS so we could get the current kit moved over.

I might actually get a box now just for the hell of it.

The current kit was made for AoS and has always been a Gloomspite unit. Especially the alternate build with the poisonous fungus puffballs that instead of the cannonballs. The old plastic kit from the picture above was the last Warhammer FB incarnation.

You appear to be talking about the Fanatics; Commodus Leitdorf was probably referring to the basic Night Goblin infantry (with spear/sword/bow options).

Oh right, yeah. Never mind.

Anyone know if the goblins can be bought separately from the battalion boxes?

Nomeny wrote:
Anyone know if the goblins can be bought separately from the battalion boxes?

Yes https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/14/sunday-preview-darkoath-marauders-old-world-orcs-and-more/

Have we had any confirmation as to which of Saturday's pre orders are available to FLGS/online only yet?

Hope we get the original Night Goblin Fanatics on plastic set back too.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Have we had any confirmation as to which of Saturday's pre orders are available to FLGS/online only yet?

Hope we get the original Night Goblin Fanatics on plastic set back too.

Retail list as posted on TGA anything not on the list is direct only

Is the new Orc Boyz & Orc Arrer Boyz kit just the already available Orc Boyz Mob, with 40 instead of 31, and an arrow sprue added? Or are they based on different bodies / sets etc, any other differences?

bobthe4th wrote:
Is the new Orc Boyz & Orc Arrer Boyz kit just the already available Orc Boyz Mob, with 40 instead of 31, and an arrow sprue added? Or are they based on different bodies / sets etc, any other differences?

It's these 2 sprues (4 of each) - plus 2 command sprues for 38 minis (19 in each unit) per box - 40 in the article is wrong the boxart is correct with 38.

Curious what pricing is in USD and for direct items

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Nomeny wrote:
Anyone know if the goblins can be bought separately from the battalion boxes?

Yes https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/14/sunday-preview-darkoath-marauders-old-world-orcs-and-more/

Cool, thanks!

Definitely a box or two of the Men at Arms for me. One of my favorite kits, up there with the Empire militia.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Definitely a box or two of the Men at Arms for me. One of my favorite kits, up there with the Empire militia.

I love that monk there. Strong Friar Tuck vibes

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Definitely a box or two of the Men at Arms for me. One of my favorite kits, up there with the Empire militia.

I love that monk there. Strong Friar Tuck vibes

I'll be honest, I found the men at arms and archer kits a let down as a follow up to the 5th Ed Perry metals. I didn't like the lean into comedy with the sets (blind archer etc). I'm still holding out for a MtO for the 5th Ed metals (Inc knights).