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Assuming the next book is Empire (chaos vs empire is a thematic pair) then they would be the one after, followed by the elves, if they want to keep the good guys bad / guys split.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Assuming the next book is Empire (chaos vs empire is a thematic pair) then they would be the one after, followed by the elves, if they want to keep the good guys bad / guys split.

I'm kindof afraid that beastmen will get the same treatment as dwarves and chaos in that it will just be AOS boxes being rebranded OW and some rereleases of metal and resin existing FB :/
Was really hoping for new sculpts of dwarves and chaos sigh.. all we got was a single dwarven lord carried around on a shield so far.

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...it wasn't that long ago we had the road map for the Old World, which called out Empire and High Elves as the next two factions to be (re)released.

By my reckoning, that then leaves Wood Elves and Beasts of Chaos for the last two, though I'd probably lean towards BoC before the Wood elves, so it isn't three non-Chaos factions in a row.

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This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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the one that was made up by someone on Youtube?

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 Dysartes wrote:
...it wasn't that long ago we had the road map for the Old World, which called out Empire and High Elves as the next two factions to be (re)released.

By my reckoning, that then leaves Wood Elves and Beasts of Chaos for the last two, though I'd probably lean towards BoC before the Wood elves, so it isn't three non-Chaos factions in a row.

I need to zone in on wether races/armies are actually being developed or if GW sticks to the rereleasing of existing units? Is there an official statement about this? And, does it apply to dwarves and chaos too that eventually at least they will be fashioned rather than repurposed out of FB and AOS?

(Like, the OW release box is all newly fashioned tomb kings and empire so..)

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for that, TOW will get the last existing plastic models from Warhammer Fantasy that are not used in AoS
with 1-2 new units either in plastic or resin

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 kodos wrote:
the one that was made up by someone on Youtube?

No, the road map from the Nova Open.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/YMuvv0rx/warhammer-nova-open-preview-the-next-old-world-armies/

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 Kanluwen wrote:
This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.

Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
Assuming the next book is Empire (chaos vs empire is a thematic pair) then they would be the one after, followed by the elves, if they want to keep the good guys bad / guys split.


There was never a "good guy/bad guy split", that was something people just assumed because it appeared like it might be a thing despite not really having enough releases to show a pattern. The roadmap proved there is no Good/Evil or thematic pairing pattern.

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 Leopold Helveine wrote:
I need to zone in on wether races/armies are actually being developed or if GW sticks to the rereleasing of existing units? Is there an official statement about this? And, does it apply to dwarves and chaos too that eventually at least they will be fashioned rather than repurposed out of FB and AOS?

(Like, the OW release box is all newly fashioned tomb kings and empire so..)

The starter box is not all new models, it's two new models. Everything else is old kits. Brettonia got KotR on Foot and some characters. TK got two (?) new character models.
That's what TOW was always going to be and GW has been very clear about this.

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 Gert wrote:
 Leopold Helveine wrote:
I need to zone in on wether races/armies are actually being developed or if GW sticks to the rereleasing of existing units? Is there an official statement about this? And, does it apply to dwarves and chaos too that eventually at least they will be fashioned rather than repurposed out of FB and AOS?

(Like, the OW release box is all newly fashioned tomb kings and empire so..)

The starter box is not all new models, it's two new models. Everything else is old kits. Brettonia got KotR on Foot and some characters. TK got two (?) new character models.
That's what TOW was always going to be and GW has been very clear about this.

That's not true, its all plastic. You can see it on the site.
https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/old-world-kingdom-of-bretonnia-eng-2024?queryID=4c5bf0c4af1dae4caa8ab062cdb0e53d
All sprued plastics.

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 Leopold Helveine wrote:
 Gert wrote:
 Leopold Helveine wrote:
I need to zone in on wether races/armies are actually being developed or if GW sticks to the rereleasing of existing units? Is there an official statement about this? And, does it apply to dwarves and chaos too that eventually at least they will be fashioned rather than repurposed out of FB and AOS?

(Like, the OW release box is all newly fashioned tomb kings and empire so..)

The starter box is not all new models, it's two new models. Everything else is old kits. Brettonia got KotR on Foot and some characters. TK got two (?) new character models.
That's what TOW was always going to be and GW has been very clear about this.

That's not true, its all plastic. You can see it on the site.
https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/old-world-kingdom-of-bretonnia-eng-2024?queryID=4c5bf0c4af1dae4caa8ab062cdb0e53d
All sprued plastics.


It's all plastic because those are how the WHFB Models were, they were plastic. The only brand new unit in that set is the Lord on Pegasus, the rest are all re-releases of the WHFB models.
   
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 Leopold Helveine wrote:
 Gert wrote:
 Leopold Helveine wrote:
I need to zone in on wether races/armies are actually being developed or if GW sticks to the rereleasing of existing units? Is there an official statement about this? And, does it apply to dwarves and chaos too that eventually at least they will be fashioned rather than repurposed out of FB and AOS?

(Like, the OW release box is all newly fashioned tomb kings and empire so..)

The starter box is not all new models, it's two new models. Everything else is old kits. Brettonia got KotR on Foot and some characters. TK got two (?) new character models.
That's what TOW was always going to be and GW has been very clear about this.

That's not true, its all plastic. You can see it on the site.
https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/old-world-kingdom-of-bretonnia-eng-2024?queryID=4c5bf0c4af1dae4caa8ab062cdb0e53d
All sprued plastics.

What has that got to do with them being “new” or not? All of those sprues, except the Pegasus lord, are from 8th edition WFB or earlier, just like all the other stuff that has been rereleased for TOW.

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Most of that stuff is from like 6th edition WHFB, the bretonnians were released around.... 2001? 2003?

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I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.

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Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.

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 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


The design team articles say they made brand new sculpts for Brets, but the lord on pegasus kit have obvious bits for a remake of king Louen Leoncoeur, so Im thinking the brand new plastics are actually older sculpts. Dont know if we can see some design quirks on the kits to tell if they are made with modern sculpting programs or older style?

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 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


It's a similar kit in terms of content, but not the unreleased one. The one we got was a new kits designed for Old World and is missing the BSB options the unreleased kit contained.

This is the unreleased version which stylistically matches the then current plastic Warriors:
Spoiler:

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 Fayric wrote:
 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


The design team articles say they made brand new sculpts for Brets, but the lord on pegasus kit have obvious bits for a remake of king Louen Leoncoeur, so Im thinking the brand new plastics are actually older sculpts. Dont know if we can see some design quirks on the kits to tell if they are made with modern sculpting programs or older style?


The sprue has the irregularly shaped channels and high part density that are characteristic of recent kits.

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 Pariah Press wrote:
 Fayric wrote:
 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


The design team articles say they made brand new sculpts for Brets, but the lord on pegasus kit have obvious bits for a remake of king Louen Leoncoeur, so Im thinking the brand new plastics are actually older sculpts. Dont know if we can see some design quirks on the kits to tell if they are made with modern sculpting programs or older style?


The sprue has the irregularly shaped channels and high part density that are characteristic of recent kits.

Thanks, thats a strong indication its actually a new kit.

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 Fayric wrote:
 Pariah Press wrote:
 Fayric wrote:
 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


The design team articles say they made brand new sculpts for Brets, but the lord on pegasus kit have obvious bits for a remake of king Louen Leoncoeur, so Im thinking the brand new plastics are actually older sculpts. Dont know if we can see some design quirks on the kits to tell if they are made with modern sculpting programs or older style?


The sprue has the irregularly shaped channels and high part density that are characteristic of recent kits.

Thanks, thats a strong indication it’s actually a new kit.

Being a new kit doesn’t preclude being an old sculpt. Who knows how long that file could have been sitting around in an archive for? Pull it out, load it into the sprue calculator and boom, new batch of gcode to send to the machine room.

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 Mr_Rose wrote:
 Fayric wrote:
 Pariah Press wrote:
 Fayric wrote:
 skrulnik wrote:
Mozzamanx wrote:
I believe the Tomb Kings Skeletons were released as a Vampire Counts kit in 1998 with an additional sprue of TK bits added in 2004?
These models are ooooold. Thus far I believe the only new plastic models produced for TOW are the Knights of the Realm on foot, Royal Pegasus kits, Necrolith Dragon and Dwarf Lord on Shieldbearers. Everything else is either a re-release or a resin character.


I think the Dwarf Lord was done for 8th WHFB but never got released back then. I remember rumor pics of it, or a very similar one.


The design team articles say they made brand new sculpts for Brets, but the lord on pegasus kit have obvious bits for a remake of king Louen Leoncoeur, so Im thinking the brand new plastics are actually older sculpts. Dont know if we can see some design quirks on the kits to tell if they are made with modern sculpting programs or older style?


The sprue has the irregularly shaped channels and high part density that are characteristic of recent kits.

Thanks, thats a strong indication it’s actually a new kit.

Being a new kit doesn’t preclude being an old sculpt. Who knows how long that file could have been sitting around in an archive for? Pull it out, load it into the sprue calculator and boom, new batch of gcode to send to the machine room.


The style of the Pegasus characters match up better with the foot knights than the older style kits, so it's a pretty good indicator that it's a new sculpt instead of something they've been sitting on since pre-AoS like Prince Handsome.

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Not necessarily. There would have been 10+ years difference in time between the original brets and when that kit was digitally sculpted, which is enough time for aesthetic adjustments to come into effect.

Though I think that's unlikely, more likely it was a kit that was designed some time ago that was then modified/resculpted/redesigned more recently for TOW. There may be bones of the original there but that's it.

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The handmaiden of the lady was available for purchase stateside for about an hour before selling out again.

Notable because I believe it was the first restock for the new resin models in the US for Bretonnia.
   
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I swear I had registered a reminder for that one, but I didn’t get a notification.

Not a total loss, though. When I went back to set another reminder, I saw that the Questing Knight Command was back in stock and snagged that really quick! Thanks for the heads-up Grail Seeker!

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The handmaiden of the lady was available for purchase stateside for about an hour before selling out again.

Notable because I believe it was the first restock for the new resin models in the US for Bretonnia.


For Bretonnia, yes I believe that's correct, was able to scoop up some TK stuff on several occasions.

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 godswildcard wrote:
I swear I had registered a reminder for that one, but I didn’t get a notification.

Not a total loss, though. When I went back to set another reminder, I saw that the Questing Knight Command was back in stock and snagged that really quick! Thanks for the heads-up Grail Seeker!


A lot of people have been saying that the notifications haven't been working since the new website, for what it is worth I also never got a notification and know for sure I registered for one.

Glad you got the Questing Knight Command at least, I love those Questing Knight Sculpts.
   
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Considering the website seems to forget what country your based in every time you visit and you have to often log back in again I'm willing to bet there's something in the server that just isn't saving any details about user sessions which might include the whole email system.

It could also be that GW are only doing really small restocks on things and as such aren't sending out the notifications because they know that the stock isn't enough to fill demand. Likely thinking its better to just not tell people if they know that there's only 5 models and 40 people on the email list.

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Given that bulk emails often have to be sent out over a period rather then all at once to prevent them being seen as DDOS attacks it wouldn't surprise me if they only keep getting sent while stuff if in stock,

so with high demand things will sell out far before they email server has sent out emails to everybody on the list (although it would be interesting to find out if those that didn't get one are remain on the list to get an email next restock, or if list is totally cleared)

 
   
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That's a good point. Also it depends how many people actually use the feature - we've no idea of the numbers at all. It could be hardly anyone (except die hard fans) actually uses it and thus if it broke GW might not have looked into it (or even realised if people just comment on fb/social groups now and then)

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