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2025/03/30 09:06:18
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
And THIS is the exact reason I try to convert up plastic models wherever possible. I'll only get pewter stuff in package used model lots and only keep them if it's far too expensive to use plastic models as a replacement.
METAL is God's own casting medium, formed in the furnace of an exploding star, pulled from the bones of the Earth, shaped by FIRE it is immortal and invincible. The only way METAL could be better is if they shipped it red hot in thermos bottles so you could enjoy the glow of the forge.
Honestly I'd rather paint a hundred one-part metal infantry than assemble these 10 or 20 part plastic models GW is inflicting on us. Yeah for a character sure, but Joey the Bog Standard Rifleman does not need his left foot to be a separate part!
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2025/03/30 14:18:59
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Kid_Kyoto wrote: METAL is God's own casting medium, formed in the furnace of an exploding star, pulled from the bones of the Earth, shaped by FIRE it is immortal and invincible. The only way METAL could be better is if they shipped it red hot in thermos bottles so you could enjoy the glow of the forge.
Honestly I'd rather paint a hundred one-part metal infantry than assemble these 10 or 20 part plastic models GW is inflicting on us. Yeah for a character sure, but Joey the Bog Standard Rifleman does not need his left foot to be a separate part!
This is my experience. The 'snap fit' AOS Chaos Knights were more annoying and took longer to put together than the metal chaos ogres I got.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Another pro for metal is it's the least risky to strip paint without damaging it so it opens up the second hand market to already painted minis, where trying on plastic or resin could risk destroying them.
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2025/03/30 14:53:18
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
That's why I love the North Star kits so much - simple assembly that still allows for a lot of poseability rather than the GW double whammy of pain in the arse assembly and zero poseability.
I love metal miniatures too but they are a pain to work with and transport. I'll never forget when I shipped my KR multicase of Trollbloods to Germany and opened it to find every single one broken and chipped despite the foam. I still wonder what they did with my case to cause that. Probably chucked it against the truck wall.
I have bought GW platsic units where every model was a duplicate, just ad shield and you are good to go.
I have bought GW plastic units where legs torso and arms are interchangable. Easy and quick assembly and room for options, but not alot of dynamics in pose.
I have bought GW plastic units where the models are annoying to assemble, but once you follow the numbers in the guide you come out with 5 uniqe models you may repeat in a weird repetetition of uniqe dynamic poses.
My point beeing, its strange to argue for metal beeing superior based on style and quick asembly.
And just for the record, I have bought many metal units and monsters -dont even like it out of nostalgia. Although, love some metal characters because of nostalgia.
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Kid_Kyoto wrote: METAL is God's own casting medium, formed in the furnace of an exploding star, pulled from the bones of the Earth, shaped by FIRE it is immortal and invincible. The only way METAL could be better is if they shipped it red hot in thermos bottles so you could enjoy the glow of the forge.
Honestly I'd rather paint a hundred one-part metal infantry than assemble these 10 or 20 part plastic models GW is inflicting on us. Yeah for a character sure, but Joey the Bog Standard Rifleman does not need his left foot to be a separate part!
Now who can argue with that! I think we're all indebted to you, sir, for stating what clearly needed to be said. I'm particularly glad these new lovely Dakkanauts are here today to hear your speech. Not only was it authentic tabletop gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2025/03/30 16:31:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Kid_Kyoto wrote: METAL is God's own casting medium, formed in the furnace of an exploding star, pulled from the bones of the Earth, shaped by FIRE it is immortal and invincible. The only way METAL could be better is if they shipped it red hot in thermos bottles so you could enjoy the glow of the forge.
Honestly I'd rather paint a hundred one-part metal infantry than assemble these 10 or 20 part plastic models GW is inflicting on us. Yeah for a character sure, but Joey the Bog Standard Rifleman does not need his left foot to be a separate part!
Now who can argue with that! I think we're all indebted to you, sir, for stating what clearly needed to be said. I'm particularly glad these new lovely Dakkanauts are here today to hear your speech. Not only was it authentic tabletop gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.
WHAT ARE WE MADE OF?
Don't worry- when Warmachine first came out they made fun of GW for using plastic models, and swore they'd never release plastic.
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LSG were sold 5 to a sprue without command independently of IoB.
Within IoB, they were spread across 5 sprues to make 10 models - there were 2 identical sprues containing 3 LSG each + clanrats, ellyrian reavers, swormasters of hoeth, etc, plus one sprue of 4 LSG including banner and musician (plus more swordmasters and reavers). Then there was a sprue that had the champions sword and one spear (+ clanrats and rat ogres), and another sprue with 2 more spears (plus the lord on hippogriff or whatever, as well as the clawlord or warplock emginseer or whatever that was)
Im not sure how the new kit is set up, but im assuming they are mostly making use of the 5 model sprue plus a retooled new sprue containing the command bits.
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2025/03/31 13:00:58
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
skeleton wrote: Would normaly be 30 or 32 but it can be, its the sprues from Island of blood, dont know how they sat on the sprue.
The IoB sprues had them as 2x3(on the duplicated sprues) plus 4 on another sprue. The Webstore only additional models done later where a recut with 5 per sprue. This most likely uses those recuts them a recut with the command and 2 extra normies.
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2025/03/31 23:12:11
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Cathay look great and imo show some pretty good commitment to the game for a whole new army in plastic to come out.
Says good things for the game going forward, except the question of supposedly legacy armies given that any one of them can 'cathay expedition' their way into the old world so there is absolutely 0 reason for them not to exist in the game.
except of course that they don't want to lose the IP power of those factions to prop up AoS...
Kid_Kyoto wrote: METAL is God's own casting medium, formed in the furnace of an exploding star, pulled from the bones of the Earth, shaped by FIRE it is immortal and invincible. The only way METAL could be better is if they shipped it red hot in thermos bottles so you could enjoy the glow of the forge.
Honestly I'd rather paint a hundred one-part metal infantry than assemble these 10 or 20 part plastic models GW is inflicting on us. Yeah for a character sure, but Joey the Bog Standard Rifleman does not need his left foot to be a separate part!
Now who can argue with that! I think we're all indebted to you, sir, for stating what clearly needed to be said. I'm particularly glad these new lovely Dakkanauts are here today to hear your speech. Not only was it authentic tabletop gibberish, it expressed a courage little seen in this day and age.
Sir, I think you'll find metal is the casting medium of Chaos.
- Hard as nails and prone to draw blood with its pointy bits
- Lustrous and bedazzling when naked, inspiring excessive avarice and hoarding in Oldhammer collectors
- A toxic health hazard prone to rot (if it contains lead), not to mention often sold in BLISTER packs, eww
- Paint job easily removed and replaced many times over, enabling any one model to repeatedly change hands and allegiance in mutable and conspiratorial fashion
- Difficult to break into smaller parts and hence remaining ... undivided
I'm firmly in the 'metal is best' camp. It's the weight. Feels like you got your money's worth. Unless it's on a flying stand, in which case it's a recipe for swears.
Back on topic, wasn't expecting Cathay out of nowhere! Overall I like them, especially that balloon. Although it's the sort of thing I'd knock over and break with a careless arm movement in every game. It might have a range of uses in other games and settings too--maybe even LotR SBG with some Easterlings as crew.
2025/04/01 16:02:11
Subject: Re:Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Are the Dragon Princes models still coming out? Are the plastic White Lions of Chrace going to be sold at some point? How do I know when things will be released?
It is difficult for two reasons to give GW my money 1) The things I want are always sold out before I even know they are for sale and 2) The prices
2025/04/01 19:44:41
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Gallahad wrote: Are the Dragon Princes models still coming out? Are the plastic White Lions of Chrace going to be sold at some point? How do I know when things will be released?
It is difficult for two reasons to give GW my money 1) The things I want are always sold out before I even know they are for sale and 2) The prices
We don't know about Dragon Princes yet, White Lions were released with wave 1
You can go to the warhammer community page and find out when things are being released for pre-order. There is typically an article every Sunday telling us what is up for pre-order the following Saturday. You can also subscribe to their newsletter to get emails when those pre-order articles are published.
2025/04/01 23:32:33
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors
Gallahad wrote: Are the Dragon Princes models still coming out? Are the plastic White Lions of Chrace going to be sold at some point? How do I know when things will be released?
It is difficult for two reasons to give GW my money 1) The things I want are always sold out before I even know they are for sale and 2) The prices
We don't know about Dragon Princes yet, White Lions were released with wave 1
You can go to the warhammer community page and find out when things are being released for pre-order. There is typically an article every Sunday telling us what is up for pre-order the following Saturday. You can also subscribe to their newsletter to get emails when those pre-order articles are published.
Thank you.
They don't seem to include release dates on Warhammer community that I can find, looks like I just have to check every week to see if the thing I want is coming the next week? I'm unlikely to check their website every weekend to see if I can buy what I want.
I'll just continue my current trend of wanting to buy things, discovering they either aren't released yet or sold out, and then buying some better 3d prints for a third the price.
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2025/04/02 09:24:06
Subject: Warhammer - The Old World news and rumors