10th Edition Rumour Roundup - in the grim darkness of the far future, there are only power levels

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**Dudeface**

JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

He's the only one to call out ultras but this was his sources comments on the marine half of the box:

- Terminators "huge thing" in the boxset, no info if Primaris or Firstborn
- Terminator Chaptain and Terminator Librarian
- Bulky, more action poses
- 'Incinerators' new flame squad, like Black Templar Pyreblaster
- New Veteran Squad, "more ranged type"
- New ranged only Dreadnought, lascannons and rockets, maybe "chonkier"
- This one for range, Redemptor as middle ground and brutalis as melee version
- No jump assault marines, will be coming but not in boxset, no idea when
- Generic ultramarines paint scheme
- Still gathering Tyranid info, another video in the next weeks

To clarify it's not a concrete confirmation but it looks the nearest.

**endlesswaltz123**

JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

Even if it isn't 10th edition, it is a box set with Tyranids vs Terminators being involved, at which point, his rumour source is correct.

Been saying it for months, mentioned multiple times in the original post.

Chapter is irrelevant really.

**EonChao**

JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

That updated Terminators are coming and they're not a heavy redesign off the current ones, just a modernised kit (possibly scaled up).

**Dudeface**

endlesswaltz123 wrote:
JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

Even if it isn't 10th edition, it is a box set with Tyranids vs Terminators being involved, at which point, his rumour source is correct.

Been saying it for months, mentioned multiple times in the original post.

Chapter is irrelevant really.

It isn't at this stage as the other conflicting rumours have the chapter in the launch material as either BA or DA.

**dreadblade**

Is there still a rumour it'll involve indexes to go from 9th to 10th, or will we be good with a new BRB and current codexes?

**Scottywan82**

Good lord, these Terminators better be Primaris.

Not sure what the point would even be otherwise.

**JWBS**

EonChao wrote:
JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

That updated Terminators are coming and they're not a heavy redesign off the current ones, just a modernised kit (possibly scaled up).

Oh nice, I'd like some upscaled Terminators.

**Snitchey**

War Com teaser email just confirmed the new Terminators

**Dudeface**

dreadblade wrote:
Is there still a rumour it'll involve indexes to go from 9th to 10th, or will we be good with a new BRB and current codexes?

Following the route from the ultras inclusive rumour backwards, codex stay relevant for units but there will be heavy changes/edits iirc. I don't think I'll get the time or required level of boredom to go back and string them together, but it's all in the OP.

**Wayniac**

So wonder which of the leaks will be true

**tneva82**

Snitchey wrote:
War Com teaser email just confirmed the new Terminators

Care to show email?

**Rzezbiarzbdg**

I would bet on New genestealers vs new terminatora kill team. Space Hulks without that duo is not possible.

**JWBS**

Looks like a warrior in the pic though.

**Dudeface**

Rzezbiarzbdg wrote:
I would bet on New genestealers vs new terminatora kill team. Space Hulks without that duo is not possible.

It doesn't have the kill team logo on it at all though.

**EviscerationPlague**

JWBS wrote:
Looks like a warrior in the pic though.

Which would give credence to new Shrikes being correct as well.

**Danny76**

Terminator is green isn’t he?

**His Master's Voice**

That's a very normal looking Terminator...

I'm assuming GW is keeping the old design and simply upscaling the models to Primaris proportions?

**Dudeface**

Danny76 wrote:
Terminator is green isn’t he?

I think it's discolouring though the nids eye colour, the tip of the U is visible on the shoulder and white helm for ultras first company fits. The icons on the left shoulder correctly as it's a mirror image.

**Dysartes**

Danny76 wrote:
Terminator is green isn’t he?

In the still image on WHC it definitely looks green (with a white helmet) - a colour scheme that doesn't really fit with any of the rumoured FF Chapters...

**endlesswaltz123**

Dudeface wrote:
endlesswaltz123 wrote:
JWBS wrote:
How does it confirm? Did he specify UM or something? In fact what's he said about terminators?

Even if it isn't 10th edition, it is a box set with Tyranids vs Terminators being involved, at which point, his rumour source is correct.

Been saying it for months, mentioned multiple times in the original post.

Chapter is irrelevant really.

It isn't at this stage as the other conflicting rumours have the chapter in the launch material as either BA or DA.

It's still mostly irrelevant. Launch boxes are not chapter locked. His source evidently has good access to the studios. they could have seen multiples painted in different chapter colours, which usually does happen at the launch of an edition anyway.

The chapter itself is really unimportant, the models are, and the models are rumour correct it seems.

**GoatboyBeta**

Hard to be sure on the overall colour of the armour with it being reflected in the Nids eye. But the helm is white unlike the rest of the torso and shoulders. White helms is not a BA or DA thing. While other codex chapters do use white helms for vets, its usually associated with the Ultras.
Also cant make out a Crux Terminatus on the left shoulder. Artistic licence, or indicator of an updated design that looks a lot like the existing pattern?

**Tim the Biovore**

tneva82 wrote:
Snitchey wrote:
War Com teaser email just confirmed the new Terminators

Care to show email?

The email doesn't say anything, it just links to the article

**lord_blackfang**

Colour me surprised.

**Old-Four-Arms**

Terminator looking old-school, good !

Looks at 20 Purestrain Stealers from Deathwatch Overkill.. soon

**His Master's Voice**

GoatboyBeta wrote:

Also cant make out a Crux Terminatus on the left shoulder. Artistic licence, or indicator of an updated design that looks a lot like the existing pattern?

It's a mirrored image.

**Dudeface**

GoatboyBeta wrote:
Hard to be sure on the overall colour of the armour with it being reflected in the Nids eye. But the helm is white unlike the rest of the torso and shoulders. White helms is not a BA or DA thing. While other codex chapters do use white helms for vets, its usually associated with the Ultras.
Also cant make out a Crux Terminatus on the left shoulder. Artistic licence, or indicator of an updated design that looks a lot like the existing pattern?

It's mirrored in the eye was my understanding, so the left is actually the right I think?

**Sotahullu**

Well I am not surprised if its Ultramarines as they are poster boys "cough" but I can imagine it also being Deathwing.

But as for the 'nid, it is probably not genestealer but tyranid range as a whole could use some refresh.

Unless its new variant of genestealer.

**GoatboyBeta**

His Master's Voice wrote:

It's a mirrored image.

Yes it is. So the shoulder on the right hand side of the image is the Terminators left shoulder. Traditionally Indomitus pattern Terminators in 40k have the Crux Terminatus on there left shoulder, with the chapter badge on there right.

Edit - never mind, I get what your saying now.

**Tsagualsa**

Added to the OP.

**Asmodai**

Tim the Biovore wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Snitchey wrote:
War Com teaser email just confirmed the new Terminators

Care to show email?

The email doesn't say anything, it just links to the article

It does specify the transmission is from the Galaxy's Western Fringe, which isn't in the article.