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 silverstu wrote:
Am I misremembering or did they do a sneak peek video at the end of the9th edition reveal for future factions - think it was Orks/DE/Mechanicus/Sisters? Hoping for something like that at the end of the stream.

For both 9th and AoS 3rd they revealed the push fit kits at the same time as the contents of the box. Then on launch day they got reveals of other upcoming kits for the two factions in the box. For 9th Ed they did a teaser video of what was coming but AoS 3rd didn’t get that.

So a safe bet for Saturday would be the launch box contents and then 2 kits for each of Marines and ‘Nids. Codexes will probably be revealed at launch. That said the last two big edition releases didn’t have a Warhammer fest to tie into so it could be completely different but I expect them to save some reveals for events later in summer (UKGE is a month later for example)

Nabbed off B&C:

Dudeface wrote:
Nabbed off B&C:

Nabbed, and nabbed in turn for the OP

That is one if the fakest things I've seen. It takes the blatantly obvious (units for premiere factions seen in a trailer) and then plays up a wishlist.

Wraithlords losing toughness? Absolutely not. They'll be like, toughness 12 or 14 or something.

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
That is one if the fakest things I've seen. It takes the blatantly obvious (units for premiere factions seen in a trailer) and then plays up a wishlist.

Wraithlords losing toughness? Absolutely not. They'll be like, toughness 12 or 14 or something.

That's a very good point, with everything vaguely vehicle-like going up in toughness a reduction for Wraiths seems stupid. Wraithlords have historically been hardcore resilient, they will probably be again

Dudeface wrote:
Nabbed off B&C:

GW themselves said here that the full Launch box would be revealed at Warhammer Fest and that would be more than just the two units each written here so I'll say fake for now (unless they meant only these units will be used for the demo games)

PoorGravitasHandling wrote:
That is one if the fakest things I've seen. It takes the blatantly obvious (units for premiere factions seen in a trailer) and then plays up a wishlist.

Wraithlords losing toughness? Absolutely not. They'll be like, toughness 12 or 14 or something.

Agreed, a bunch of things we already know (characters give buffs to units they join, you don't say???) and some easy guesses to build credibility, then hit with a dash of gak at the end to stir up panic. Classic 4chan troll behaviour.

 Matrindur wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Nabbed off B&C:

GW themselves said here that the full Launch box would be revealed at Warhammer Fest and that would be more than just the two units each written here so I'll say fake for now (unless they meant only these units will be used for the demo games)

I don't think eldar/orks will feature in a reveal trailer for the box, but it might be so they can manage multiple demo games at once (they'll only paint so many copies of the new stuff).

Orks getting nothing new (unless they just mean 'shown off this weekend') makes no sense since there is a 100% ork weapon in the rumor engine.


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I am glad that WarCom is getting rid of some of the low hanging fruit (KT terrain and tzeentch underworlds) before the event.

The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

I do not think that they'd do demo games with anything other than SM and Tyranids really, they want to sell them and they'd have to paint up new minis anyway, so it does not really matter what they put out - the other armies are IMHO stuff they plan to use to tide people over between the previews at WHF and the actual preorder dates, it makes no sense to preview more stuff that early.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

I do not think that they'd do demo games with anything other than SM and Tyranids really, they want to sell them and they'd have to paint up new minis anyway, so it does not really matter what they put out - the other armies are IMHO stuff they plan to use to tide people over between the previews at WHF and the actual preorder dates, it makes no sense to preview more stuff that early.

I think they'd want to minimise the number of unreleased new models out in public. It wasn't too long ago that a pre-release Angron model went missing from LVO, and this time there will be far more public tables and models to keep track of.

Most likely we'll see the new stuff mostly in locked display cabinets with demo games being run largely with existing combat patrol sets and units people are already familiar with. It's also a better way for customers to see the changes in 10th if they're playing with Intercessors or Hive Tyrants rather than the all-new unit Brainbug 9000™.

 xttz wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

I do not think that they'd do demo games with anything other than SM and Tyranids really, they want to sell them and they'd have to paint up new minis anyway, so it does not really matter what they put out - the other armies are IMHO stuff they plan to use to tide people over between the previews at WHF and the actual preorder dates, it makes no sense to preview more stuff that early.

I think they'd want to minimise the number of unreleased new models out in public. It wasn't too long ago that a pre-release Angron model went missing from LVO, and this time there will be far more public tables and models to keep track of.

Most likely we'll see the new stuff mostly in locked display cabinets with demo games being run largely with existing combat patrol sets and units people are already familiar with. It's also a better way for customers to see the changes in 10th if they're playing with Intercessors or Hive Tyrants rather than the all-new unit Brainbug 9000™.

It makes sense from that vantage point, nicking the demo models is not something that occured to me, but of course that would be a major concern if the public could get their hands on unreleased models.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 xttz wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

I do not think that they'd do demo games with anything other than SM and Tyranids really, they want to sell them and they'd have to paint up new minis anyway, so it does not really matter what they put out - the other armies are IMHO stuff they plan to use to tide people over between the previews at WHF and the actual preorder dates, it makes no sense to preview more stuff that early.

I think they'd want to minimise the number of unreleased new models out in public. It wasn't too long ago that a pre-release Angron model went missing from LVO, and this time there will be far more public tables and models to keep track of.

Most likely we'll see the new stuff mostly in locked display cabinets with demo games being run largely with existing combat patrol sets and units people are already familiar with. It's also a better way for customers to see the changes in 10th if they're playing with Intercessors or Hive Tyrants rather than the all-new unit Brainbug 9000™.

It makes sense from that vantage point, nicking the demo models is not something that occured to me, but of course that would be a major concern if the public could get their hands on unreleased models.

The other side of it is we don't know how meno demo boards there will be, I can't imagine them painting up 20 sets just for demo games and they won't risk the shiny new units being out there in a attle ready standard as a guess.

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 xttz wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

I do not think that they'd do demo games with anything other than SM and Tyranids really, they want to sell them and they'd have to paint up new minis anyway, so it does not really matter what they put out - the other armies are IMHO stuff they plan to use to tide people over between the previews at WHF and the actual preorder dates, it makes no sense to preview more stuff that early.

I think they'd want to minimise the number of unreleased new models out in public. It wasn't too long ago that a pre-release Angron model went missing from LVO, and this time there will be far more public tables and models to keep track of.

Most likely we'll see the new stuff mostly in locked display cabinets with demo games being run largely with existing combat patrol sets and units people are already familiar with. It's also a better way for customers to see the changes in 10th if they're playing with Intercessors or Hive Tyrants rather than the all-new unit Brainbug 9000™.

It makes sense from that vantage point, nicking the demo models is not something that occured to me, but of course that would be a major concern if the public could get their hands on unreleased models.

The other side of it is we don't know how meno demo boards there will be, I can't imagine them painting up 20 sets just for demo games and they won't risk the shiny new units being out there in a attle ready standard as a guess.

Well, we have the floor plan:



The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Not sure why GW would worry more about individual 10th edition miniatures that will already have been spoiled by then ending up on eBay compared to any other studio miniature.

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:



The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:

Spoiler:

The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

I'm not sure that all of that zone is dedicated to demo tables, at least part of it is probably display cabinets and poster walls that show new stuff and pages from the books and artwork respectively.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
Yeah its shown exactly this way in the Astartes vid - cover is irrelevant unless there are heavy weapons etc engaging them

but but but the multilaser doesn't have AP! /s

It was up a level lol

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at thehow on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

Or it's bogus

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:

Spoiler:

The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

In the building trade we scale off doorways fairly often, they're normally 900mm wide!

tneva82 wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at thehow on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

Or it's bogus

Well yeah, that how Occam'd cut it, for sure.

 Nerbil wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:

Spoiler:

The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

In the building trade we scale off doorways fairly often, they're normally 900mm wide!

Stop being sensible! Now give me that in bananas and we're talking.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The 'four armies on show' thing might be the forces at the show on the day, on tables for the public to see. The debuffs to Eldar may be the changes applied to the 'combat patrol' mode of play, maybe.

To clarify, there can't be buffs and nerfs at this point in 10th lifecycle. Everything is new and comparing them to their 9th edition iterations is inherently apples to oranges.

Its adding nothing, but I wouldn't bet on 4 armies being on display. I'd have thought it would be a few copies of the opening box and that's it.

Dudeface wrote:

 Nerbil wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:

Spoiler:

The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

In the building trade we scale off doorways fairly often, they're normally 900mm wide!

Stop being sensible! Now give me that in bananas and we're talking.

If that's true and the drawing's to scale, that's around 6-8 tables (give or take based on them being side by side) TOTAL. I would be surprised if they actually had more than 4 demo table to give people room to maneuver and ogle.

Not going to do the math and that diagram isnt going to be exact but that hall is 157m by 64m

https://www.manchestercentral.co.uk/the-venue/rooms/central-hall-12-combined

They missed a trick by not labelling the toilets as the golden thrones.

Dudeface wrote:

 Nerbil wrote:

Dudeface wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

Well, we have the floor plan:

Spoiler:

The Demo Area is indeed not that huge. On the other hand, i guess they would not risk any studio-painted miniatures for the demos anyway, it's not like people would not steal some studio-quality Eldar or Orks if they had the chance.

Using my best guesstimate based on normal UK toilet cubicle sizes, it looks like the "new 40k experience" looks to be about 10 tables with generous room to walk around?

In the building trade we scale off doorways fairly often, they're normally 900mm wide!

Stop being sensible! Now give me that in bananas and we're talking.

..someone else who watches Cutting Edge Engineering?

I feel like this thread needs more baseless speculation. There's entirely too much detailed investigation in these last few pages trying to figure out what's gonna be where at WHW.