Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

I noticed that Termies are now getting what used to be the EC special rule that they can ignore modifiers to their hit and wound rolls (the EC rule only affected to hit). That makes me wonder what they are going to give EC now that every marine Terminator has what was exclusively a chaos trait.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
I noticed that Termies are now getting what used to be the EC special rule that they can ignore modifiers to their hit and wound rolls (the EC rule only affected to hit). That makes me wonder what they are going to give EC now that every marine Terminator has what was exclusively a chaos trait.

Nothing suprising about this, unique chaos rules get ported over to Space Marines and Eldar all the time. The reverse...not so much. What will EC get? Nothing. Emperor's Children won't exist until they get a codex either at the end of the 10th or begining of the 11th....maybe. We'll be lucky if Noise Marines get battleline if they take Lucius; assuming they're even worth taking.

 Sersi wrote:

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
I noticed that Termies are now getting what used to be the EC special rule that they can ignore modifiers to their hit and wound rolls (the EC rule only affected to hit). That makes me wonder what they are going to give EC now that every marine Terminator has what was exclusively a chaos trait.

Nothing suprising about this, unique chaos rules get ported over to Space Marines and Eldar all the time. The reverse...not so much. What will EC get? Nothing. Emperor's Children won't exist until they get a codex either at the end of the 10th or begining of the 11th....maybe. We'll be lucky if Noise Marines get battleline if they take Lucius; assuming they're even worth taking.

CAn you point to a rule that the eldar stole from chaos?

I've seen whole space marine units (eradicators) and chapters get turned into marine versions of eldar units and armies. I've never seen the eldar nick something.

No One Important wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So the Venerable Dread is just... gone?

I assume their intent here was to roll the standard dreadnought and the venerable into a single slot, but I am confused as to why they used the pic of the old dreadnought model that they just retired instead of the Venerable kit.
Also a little surprised they didn't put the SW and BA options on there like they did with so much other wargear, so I'm curious to see how that's handled. Hopefully in a way that lets me run as BA or SW and field double the dreadnoughts.

Coming on monday with sw/ba specific units.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
I noticed that Termies are now getting what used to be the EC special rule that they can ignore modifiers to their hit and wound rolls (the EC rule only affected to hit). That makes me wonder what they are going to give EC now that every marine Terminator has what was exclusively a chaos trait.

I know that this is the time everyone is nagging and complaining without actual reasons.
But ignoring modifyers to hit was the EC trait for... a year? And Eldar dark reapers already had it in 8th. EC traditionally had immunity to psychology and/or strike first.
None of which was ever unique to them/CSM.
( Also since Legions are now detatchment rules they will probably/hopefully be more interesting than the bland bonuses of the past)

I just had a look at the GW page for New Zealand and Australia, both still have copies of leviathan so at least on the other side of the world they're not selling out instantly.

Of course gw prices are even nuttier there which might discourage but yea still available good(ish) sign

The Black Adder wrote:
I just had a look at the GW page for New Zealand and Australia, both still have copies of leviathan so at least on the other side of the world they're not selling out instantly.

tneva82 wrote:
Of course gw prices are even nuttier there which might discourage but yea still available good(ish) sign

That probably is a good sign, especially for the UK, Europe and USA. Just bear in mind most if not all of the main Independent stores here, 3rd party sellers, even just online shops sold out in minutes or less. That was their pre-orders all gone.

I know there have been revelations in the past 24hrs on Independents not getting the pre-order amounts they thought they were getting but even still. Honestly I would expect any store offering this big expensive box launch at a significant discount to sell out fast. Anyway at this point it's still available from GW. So yeah hopefully you guys in the Northern Hemisphere get enough copies to go around too.

Noticed card packs aren't on preorder on australia. They coming later? Most likely time being when rulebook comes on sale on it's own.

Guess i'll play for a while with screenshots. Pdf not usable mid-game.

Unless app comes first and is usable.

I imagine card packs will go on sale the same time as the standalone rulebook, whenever that is

tneva82 wrote:
Noticed card packs aren't on preorder on australia. They coming later? Most likely time being when rulebook comes on sale on it's own.

Guess i'll play for a while with screenshots. Pdf not usable mid-game.

Unless app comes first and is usable.

I could see them going on preorder next week for a normal 1-week preorder so both get released on the same day.
But probably not.

Not typical for gw.2 week preorder middle week doesn't generally have big preorders.

Hmm it says I am in the queue but no timer.

Am I in the prequeue for the queue

Prepping for UK madness! T Minus 5 mins!

Friendly reminder that Leviathan is up for preordering in the UK & EU now.

If you haven't made up your mind yet, here is my super detailed review with high-res sprue pics & all assembly options: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/06/review-warhammer-40-000-leviathan/

From what I've heard from retailers, Games Workshop has produced enough boxes so that everyone who wants one should be able to get it in the first few weeks. However, it seems that independent retailers will only get a single initial allotment, and once that's sold out, you'll be stuck with buying directly from Games Workshop.

 Overread wrote:
Prepping for UK madness! T Minus 5 mins!

Just waiting the last few mins. I have GW and a couple of independent store pages open, if I can gets it cheaps I will.

My copy ordered from flgs but grabbing popcorn to see how fast gw store sells out.

Good luck for those buying it from gw.

Woof! Wait time more than an hour! 🤣

Well i have had that before and it became more reasonable soon and got way sooner than hour.

Wait time of over an hour but I can get it from my FLGS right now..

I got over an hour in the queue as well

I'm not even going to buy Leviathan. just wanted to see the preorder chaos unfold.. Demand for this box is off the hook

Went to the website at 9:25am. Already put into a random queue.
10am hits - Over an hour to wait.

Ah well, I guess I won't be getting the stat cards. That's what I was after. I can't stand trying to play from rules on my phone.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Went to the website at 9:25am. Already put into a random queue.
10am hits - Over an hour to wait.

Ah well, I guess I won't be getting the stat cards. That's what I was after. I can't stand trying to play from rules on my phone.

There' no stat cards on sale anyway as i pointed couple posts up.

Those come up later. When is up to anybody's guess.

Don't suppose anyone who's managed to get in clocked the UK price of the MTO skinks? I can't be bothered to sit for an hour to price check.

Sold out on goblin gaming, wayland and element in the UK

Firestorm broke down for me twice on confirming payment and now I can't even get to my basket view to pay.

Wayland had it at £120 and was glitchy as heck - it still keeps flicking on and off showing it as in stock and out of stock or not there.

Ordered through my FLGS with 10% off having registered my interest with them about 10 days ago. Pretty painless all told. Meanwhile GW still has me in a queue with over an hour to wait.

The Black Adder wrote:
Sold out on goblin gaming, wayland and element in the UK

I can't even login on most sites, just a series of timeouts! I was going to start a Tyranid Army but it's just not worth the hassle.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Woof! Wait time more than an hour! 🤣

Yep. "Your estimated wait time is: more than an hour"

Well I got mine from Northumbrian Tin Soldier.

Wayland Games website was really struggling along.

Just waiting for my confirmation order receipt to come through...