Wargames Atlantic PHYSICAL releases 2023

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**lord_blackfang**

Garrac wrote:
Question here: will the crowdfunding contemplate shipping to the EU?

WGA has been shipping IOSS for a while now

**Wargames Atlantic**

legionaires wrote:
Theophony wrote:
legionaires wrote:
Albertorius wrote:
Wargames Atlantic wrote:
We've posted on the Wargames Atlantic Legion facebook group asking for suggestions for additional heads to be included with the standard infantry for "The Damned".

If you have a head type you would like to see, please head on over to the legion facebook group and share your ideas.

Are you planning for extra options to be added using Tribes content? because being a Tribes member since day 1, I'd be all for that too ^^, maybe even with some extra body poses, logistics stuff and the like.

For those of us without the space, funds, ability, etc. for a 3d printer I hope not (at least not all of them)

There are places you can order the parts printed for you. To hope they don't have options and limit the range because you can't or don't want to print them is a bit selfish. If it's parts available to print and you can save up for pieces to customize your army it's better than not having that option available or having to pay someone to sculpt and make you the parts individually.

To clarify, I'm reading Albertorius's post them wanting everything after the base sprue to go to digital only.

I would rather they put as much as possible on the sprue. I won't likely back the campaign if it's minimal plastic bits with the large majority being STLs.

Let me hope there are lots of options for those of us without 3d printers. There is already WGA digital and I'm sure you will be catered to as well.

Garrac wrote:Question here: will the crowdfunding contemplate shipping to the EU?

lord_blackfang wrote:
Garrac wrote:
Question here: will the crowdfunding contemplate shipping to the EU?

WGA has been shipping IOSS for a while now

What lord_Blackfang stated. We ship from our warehouse in the UK to EU customers with IOSS.

**ScarletRose**

On the brutes maybe a welding mask head?

And while i like the chaotic assortment of extra bits and bobs, maybe some more standard looking brute size pouches similar to the ammo pouches of the normal infantry.

**Racerguy180**

I will say this, everyone in Mt local 30/40k group is very excited for these releases!

**legionaires**

I've seen folks also suggesting heavy caliber revolvers for Brutes.

**Garrac**

Wargames Atlantic wrote:

What lord_Blackfang stated. We ship from our warehouse in the UK to EU customers with IOSS.

Oh! Thank you!

**Perfect Organism**

legionaires wrote:
I've seen folks also suggesting heavy caliber revolvers for Brutes.

'Thunderstub' pistols are an option for ogryn brutes in the new Imperialis Militia list from Games Workshop for their Horus Heresy game, so I can see the appeal and the 'pistol and melee weapon' is a fairly iconic pairing in sci-fi wargames now, so that makes sense.
I'd also like to see another left-handed melee weapon (besides the knife), possibly something a bit more high-tech than a club or blade (power weapons are an option for those ogryn brutes).

As an aside, the 'patchwork' blade on the two-handed sword looks really bad. I'd much rather see a plain length of metal. You simply can't bodge bits together like that and expect them to hold together under stress. I doubt that feedback at this point is going to make a difference, because WA don't really seem to send final sculpts back to the designer to re-do, and no big deal (one weapon out of a wide selection, which is easily re-built with a bit of plasticard isn't going to stop me buying them) but a little niggle.

**lord_blackfang**

Weapon teams

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-heavy-support-teams

**legionaires**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Weapon teams

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-heavy-support-teams

I just took a second look, I see what looks like a HMG but which one is the laser cannon or is that the plasma cannon looking one?

**Garrac**

When the crowdfunding comes out I think I'll mix the models a bit, just to have an infantry guy crouching down.

... wait, I just realized there's also "Artillery" between the units proposed, are we finally going to see traitor heavy ordenance batteries?

**Shadow Walker**

legionaires wrote:

I just took a second look, I see what looks like a HMG but which one is the laser cannon or is that the plasma cannon looking one?

I think that laser one is the twin barrels cannon.

**Not Online!!!**

not a fan of the mortar, far too chonky and the loading mechanism is stupid.

What is wrong with a normal mortar, we are talking about scavengers and you are telling me they can't get non-broken gunshields but a complex autoloading mechanism?

Overall, the lascannon (or is that a plasma cannon) also looks iffy. The Heavy bolter and autocannon look great though.
personally though i'd prefer a Heavy machinegun team.

**KipCujo**

I like that the spikes look easily filed off!

My main quibble is that the gun shields are bolted together quite neatly? Like, I understand going for a cobbled-together look, but as it is the gun shields look like they were porcelain plates dropped on the floor, neatly shattered along a single perfect line, and then taped back together. I think these would be much more successful if they were either 1) truly cobbled together from mismatched pieces of metal or 2) just ravaged up with more bullet scorches and pockmarks (this would be my preference as someone hoping to de-Chaosify as much as I can!)

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

The mortar design is one used by the Grognards so fits with the background of the damned only wanting to use battlefield salvage

**legionaires**

How long do campaigns last on Game Found? I just got hit with life and it will be the middle of next month before I recover dollar wise.

**Not Online!!!**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
The mortar design is one used by the Grognards so fits with the background of the damned only wanting to use battlefield salvage

And to be blunt it already looked bad there aswell. which is a shame because the grognards and the the damned look really good but the mortars... sorry those ain't it.

**Wargames Atlantic**

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/the-damned-whats-with-gamefound

So what's with gamefound? Find out in the HQ blog post, linked above.

To quote Hudson on Facebook:

We're genuinely excited and having a lot of fun putting this Damned crowdfunding project together and it's led to us coming up with a lot of ideas for additional sets to go with the core 8 sets.

The way it's set up now we have an initial funding goal that will unlock the first four sets (Infantry, Brutes, Command, Heavy Support Teams) and then stretch goals that will unlock the remaining four (Outriders, Hounds, Artillery, and the Vehicle). Not to mention a bunch of hard plastic bases in a variety of sizes!
Ideas for additional add-ons at higher funding levels/stretch goals are a female infantry set, heavy infantry (think trench raiders), power armor, a mutations sprue, half-man scouts, gene-edited human/animal amalgamations, and a terrain sprue among others.

Don't worry we're not giving away the farm they would be spaced out adequately to cover the costs of additional design, tooling, and production!

Do any of those sound interesting? Are there other types of sets you'd like to see as part of this?

We'll be thrilled if the core four sets fund but we realized if we attract a lot of interest we should be prepared with fun add-ons! Let us know what you think!

also

Oh yes we’ll be EU friendly shipping from within the EU for this as most of you will probably be going over the €150 IOSS limit!

Answer his questions in the following comments and I will get those passed along asap.

**Not Online!!!**

What about Efta countries in regards to shipping?

**Kid_Kyoto**

Bases, are generic textured bases like cracked earth, deck plates, or cobblestones possible?

**Wargames Atlantic**

Not Online!!! wrote:What about Efta countries in regards to shipping?

Frankly, we're not sure. HQ will look into it more. We would assume since we will be shipping from within the EU it will be relatively straightforward. As stated, HQ will do some research.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Bases, are generic textured bases like cracked earth, deck plates, or cobblestones possible?

We are starting with minimally textured rocky ground bases in 25mm, 50mm, 25x50, etc. If it goes well there are plans to add deck plating and other more specific textured hard plastic bases.

**KipCujo**

Big vote from me for the minimal dirt/rock textures. Would be awesome to shortcut a plain generic base for when I don't feel like making a mess with sand or texture paste but could still seamlessly blend with the majority of our collections.

I think all the listed ideas for add-on sprues sound compelling, with maybe the exception of the terrain sprue - with so many plentiful generic terrain offerings and FDM printing being so affordable these days to buy into, I'm of the opinion that a second vehicle (light scout or bikes, etc) would be far more tempting than terrain.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

.....an initial funding goal that will unlock the first four sets (Infantry, Brutes, Command, Heavy Support Teams) and then stretch goals that will unlock the remaining four (Outriders, Hounds, Artillery, and the Vehicle)

the first four sets seem to be sensible, the main bulk of an army and what people will want most of

however i'd hope the tank might be either first or second of the stretch goals (i could see outriders being a more sensible first choice although i'd prefer the tank)

although i guess depending on the total number of sprues the tank might need some funding 'buried' in earlier stretch goals in order not to give too large a jump in the target amount

**Garrac**

So excited for this! I can't wait tbh

Also, btw, I've read on WGA facebook page that they are going to add options for the units to be bought separately, and that delivery dates will be given with the crowdfunding (alltho, an asap is very likely)

**KipCujo**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
.....an initial funding goal that will unlock the first four sets (Infantry, Brutes, Command, Heavy Support Teams) and then stretch goals that will unlock the remaining four (Outriders, Hounds, Artillery, and the Vehicle)

the first four sets seem to be sensible, the main bulk of an army and what people will want most of

however i'd hope the tank might be either first or second of the stretch goals (i could see outriders being a more sensible first choice although i'd prefer the tank)

although i guess depending on the total number of sprues the tank might need some funding 'buried' in earlier stretch goals in order not to give too large a jump in the target amount

Sprue layout may certainly be the limiting/deciding factor, but I'd love to see a relatively basic chassis as an early goal, and then later goals could give us additional "accessory" sprues with more fancy turret weapons to swap out and turn the vehicle into mobile artillery, mobile anti-air, etc. I feel like that could support the crowdfunding format to achieve the most basic vehicle early, but still give us the chance to get a comprehensive, customizable kit if the campaign does well.

Would love to see the same thing with a small jet aircraft model too - I know there's lots of historical kits out there that are very cheap for converting, but I'd love to have another option for a chunky-proportioned sci-fi aircraft from a solid manufacturer like WGA. Would be super fun to see a standard airframe as the "basic" kit, but with accessory sprues to give us unique wings/loadouts to assemble it as a scout/fighter/fighter-bomber/bomber.

**alphaecho**

My unbuilt Necron side of the Imperium collection is being sacrificed ion the alter of the 2nd hand market to ensure I can jump all in on this.

I've been sidebuilding and converting Sons of Sek and Blood Pact from multiple sources to have a Renegade force over the last couple of years. My Archon Wolverines could do with some extra armoured support as well.

**Ragsta**

Give me the trench raider and power armour ideas first! Half breed scouts also sound very interesting.

Having said the above, I'm half hopeful that this vehicle may be a lighter tank idea like the Steg 4 from Gaunts Ghosts except with tracks.

EDIT: I'm going to have to concur with comments on the weapon teams above - I don't like the cobbled together aspect of these tripods and shields. We can paint on and model battle damage ourselves, perhaps go for more symmetrical rivet / panel lines instead? I don't think the originals had that many rivets etc so perhaps that would be a subtle but effective difference?

**Kid_Kyoto**

Ragsta wrote:
Give me the trench raider and power armour ideas first! Half breed scouts also sound very interesting.

Having said the above, I'm half hopeful that this vehicle may be a lighter tank idea like the Steg 4 from Gaunts Ghosts except with tracks.

EDIT: I'm going to have to concur with comments on the weapon teams above - I don't like the cobbled together aspect of these tripods and shields. We can paint on and model battle damage ourselves, perhaps go for more symmetrical rivet / panel lines instead? I don't think the originals had that many rivets etc so perhaps that would be a subtle but effective difference?

Good point on the weapon shields. Ramshackle and jerry-rigged is cool but with plastic it means every single weapon team will be identically ramshackle and jerry-rigged. Which is the opposite of chaos and much more jarring than an identical orderly force.

And OMG trench raiders. I would love some Diesel Punk sci fi trench raiders! Adding them to my wishlist.

Mad Robot's new line of trenchcoat and mask dudes are close...

**Eilif**

Wargames Atlantic wrote:

We are starting with minimally textured rocky ground bases in 25mm, 50mm, 25x50, etc. If it goes well there are plans to add deck plating and other more specific textured hard plastic bases.

This is a fantastic idea. I've been basing my figs on Champ Industries HIPS plastic urban and industrial bases for a long time and having another option will be great.

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Kid_Kyoto wrote:

EDIT: I'm going to have to concur with comments on the weapon teams above - I don't like the cobbled together aspect of these tripods and shields. We can paint on and model battle damage ourselves, perhaps go for more symmetrical rivet / panel lines instead? I don't think the originals had that many rivets etc so perhaps that would be a subtle but effective difference?

Good point on the weapon shields. Ramshackle and jerry-rigged is cool but with plastic it means every single weapon team will be identically ramshackle and jerry-rigged. Which is the opposite of chaos and much more jarring than an identical orderly force.

I agree that the chopped up weapon shields are a bit odd and in an army like this will look repetitive. Why not instead give us fairly clean shields with a selection of armor patches and plates we can use to cobble them up if we want too.

**Garrac**

New article on the Damned Command Squad:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/blogs/news/up-close-the-damned-command

Alltho, this kit acording to WA is part of the objetives to unlock. We're still left the riders article on the basic crowdfunding sets (alltho, crowdfunding starts next friday, so we should have one article by unit every 2 in-week days)

Also, I love this helmet

**lord_blackfang**

Command set is lit!