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 Geifer wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
4 rippers on a base just doesn't feel like a swarm to me. Maybe a gang, or a pack, but not a full swarm.

As much as you can think of Rippers or Scarabs as a free addition to another kit, I'm not a fan of being limited by how much of the parent kit you buy. It naturally leads to stretching out your swarms to get the most out of the limited number of critters you have. I actually prefer swarms as their own kits provided they're sculpted to look like swarms. Even if it means paying extra. My Tomb Kings swarms always looked much better than my Necron swarms.

The obvious solution is of course having both available as an option.

Problem with units included as part of another unit box is that you need to pay for a minis that you may either not need or want just to get the other one. Now I wonder if the Rippers are part of Termagants' sprue or a separate one, and if the latter then will they finally add them to Parasite's box or will they force people to buy Termas just to have the Parasite be able to use its full rules?

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Geifer wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
4 rippers on a base just doesn't feel like a swarm to me. Maybe a gang, or a pack, but not a full swarm.

As much as you can think of Rippers or Scarabs as a free addition to another kit, I'm not a fan of being limited by how much of the parent kit you buy. It naturally leads to stretching out your swarms to get the most out of the limited number of critters you have. I actually prefer swarms as their own kits provided they're sculpted to look like swarms. Even if it means paying extra. My Tomb Kings swarms always looked much better than my Necron swarms.

The obvious solution is of course having both available as an option.

For the customer that's a good solution, yes.

It'll never happen, but its definitely feasible to do both. Swarms recently have come attached to new kits, like the necron scarabs. But the nurglings are their own thing, despite the plaguebearers coming with seven different ones to decorate the bases (and a billion others scattered through different sets). If GW wanted to, they could eventually release separate ripper swarms, and then just relegate the new ones to base decorations (shouldn't be hard, since they aren't attached like necron scarabs)

Wiiiings!

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/04/24/the-hive-mind-unleashes-death-from-above-with-the-winged-tyranid-prime/



Winged Warriors now all but certain?

OH Those are good wings!

I like that the wings are folded but I don't really like their position and angle, would have probably liked them more if the wings are in the top slot and the claws are below rather than the other way

Also while it is a tyranid prime it has quite a lot of differences in his design to the current warriors so we might see new warriors?

After seeing so many Hive Tyrants with WFB Dragon wings crudely welded to the back, it's nice to see the wings looking like a integrated part of the model.

 Matrindur wrote:

Also while it is a tyranid prime it has quite a lot of differences in his design to the current warriors so we might see new warriors?

It looks like it is done in style of the Tyrant so it is possible that first Shrikes then foot Warriors may be redone...or there will be a dual kit?

Hopefully Shrikes are coming.

 Matrindur wrote:
I don't really like how the wings are positioned, need to see some 360-shots first

Yeah, I don't really need the 360. That's just... bad, especially when compared to the trailer screenshot, which they also provide (where it looks like the wings' 'shoulder joints' are actually a shoulder height, obscured behind the creature).

On the technical sculpting side its.. fine. But biology and physics are off crying in the corner.

It also looks like someone just took a CAD file of the vargheist wings and melded some tyranid bits in, and hit 'print.'


I'm really not liking the tyranid reveals so far...

 stonehorse wrote:
Hopefully Shrikes are coming.

I hope we do, otherwise this chap loses a chunk of Utility.

Good for expanding Synapse up the board, but little of great worth to take with him.

I like the design of the wings but the posing doesn't scream character model to me, more like unit champion who needs to not break squad cohesion. That said at least it's a sign we'll finally have Shrike's in plastic

Pics from the 360

Only oddity for me are the wings being the middle and not upper limbs.

If it sticks to standard tyranid assembly then you can likely easily swap that around for your own

Since it is a starter box model, I wonder if they will keep it that way or we could expect more weapon options for it in the future? The best way IMO would be for it to be part of either Shrikes (like the Prime in current Warriors) or dual Shrikes/Warriors kit.

 Overread wrote:
If it sticks to standard tyranid assembly then you can likely easily swap that around for your own

True. The wing membranes don’t seem to connect to the body, so a swap would likely be pretty straight forward.

I think, like the Necron Skorpekh Lord, this may be the only Winged Alpha we’ll see. Whether Warriors will have wings added in, or be split into two flavours I guess time will tell. Maybe Saturday.

Cool model.

My personal preference is to have the wings open, it makes the model more menacing looking, but this is good too.

I'm glad the wings are folded up.

While I really like the look of the Gargoyles in flight, open wings would just take up soo much space and would be a pain to transport / move on the board.

 Overread wrote:
If it sticks to standard tyranid assembly then you can likely easily swap that around for your own

Depends on if this will be snapfit or not. If it’s meant to slot together, you’ll likely have to cut the limbs off

Voss wrote:

On the technical sculpting side its.. fine. But biology and physics are off crying in the corner.

As they should, half of the point of Nids is to make biology and physics their bitch.

 GaroRobe wrote:


Depends on if this will be snapfit or not.

I think that the previous box models were all snapfit so that one will probably be the same.

In my case I really hope that Shrieks would be their own thing rather then just Warriors with wings.

 Sotahullu wrote:
In my case I really hope that Shrieks would be their own thing rather then just Warriors with wings.

But they are Warriors with wings just like Gargoyles are Gaunts with wings

 Tyran wrote:

Voss wrote:

On the technical sculpting side its.. fine. But biology and physics are off crying in the corner.

As they should, half of the point of Nids is to make biology and physics their bitch.

That's certainly a take. I tend to think of eldar as the space wizards, necrons as the super scientists for 'feth physics' in the material world and nids primarily as their biological counterparts. They still have to deal with reality, even if its 40k's dumb saturday morning cartoon version of reality.

Wings there feels like it would headbutt the floor a lot, especially with all that armor at the shoulders.

Voss wrote:
It also looks like someone just took a CAD file of the vargheist wings and melded some tyranid bits in, and hit 'print.'

I'm really not liking the tyranid reveals so far...

Yeah. I don't hate it - but it does feel a bit "cool conversion, oh wait that's the real thing?"

Maybe this release wave just isn't for me, but its lacking the wow factor I expected.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
In my case I really hope that Shrieks would be their own thing rather then just Warriors with wings.

But they are Warriors with wings just like Gargoyles are Gaunts with wings

During 2nd Ed Gargoyles were pretty useful.

Rather than Fleshborers, they had Flamespurt, essentially a S3 Flamer.

Whilst unlike most Flame weapons it couldn’t set anyone alight? It would drive enemies back, and out of cover. If hit but not killed, enemy models had to move to the nearest edge of the Flame Template. If they couldn’t, they took another hit.

Best usage of this requires some finesse, but it could neatly break coherency with a modicum of effort.

And yes. I think I am going to use a photo of Uncle Albert every time I wibble about the past glories of 2nd Ed.

I do not know if it is just the article thing but the creature is called the Winged Tyranid Prime not Shrike Prime. It may or may not be a suggestion that the name Shrike will not be officially used for the future unit, being left for the fluff only as some kind of IG's nickname for them.


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 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Sotahullu wrote:
In my case I really hope that Shrieks would be their own thing rather then just Warriors with wings.

But they are Warriors with wings just like Gargoyles are Gaunts with wings

During 2nd Ed Gargoyles were pretty useful.

Rather than Fleshborers, they had Flamespurt, essentially a S3 Flamer.

Whilst unlike most Flame weapons it couldn’t set anyone alight? It would drive enemies back, and out of cover. If hit but not killed, enemy models had to move to the nearest edge of the Flame Template. If they couldn’t, they took another hit.

Best usage of this requires some finesse, but it could neatly break coherency with a modicum of effort.

And yes. I think I am going to use a photo of Uncle Albert every time I wibble about the past glories of 2nd Ed.

I meant their fluff (not TT stats/utility), being derived from the Gaunt genus just like Shrikes are from Warriors

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:





And yes. I think I am going to use a photo of Uncle Albert every time I wibble about the past glories of 2nd Ed.

If you say "During 2nd Edition" once more I'll pour a cup of tea right over your head!