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Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
Standardisation and making the most of sprues which won’t be released in another format is my guess.
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Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
Standardisation and making the most of sprues which won’t be released in another format is my guess.
Possible, but I think that Termas, and probably Prime are rather likely to have different format. Former having more weapons on their datasheet, and latter being a character/leader, and also a Warrior genus which means options.
Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
They'll do what they did with Indomitus. Most of the launch box will be in the core boxes (in varying amounts), and they'll sell the remaining sprue(s) from Leviathan at $100+ a pop as direct only products. So to get everything from Leviathan outside Leviathan, it'll cost something like 150-175% of the cost of the launch box. (plus some extra costs from the duplication between the different levels of core boxes)
I'm not sure there will be explicit combat patrol boxes as such, just a list of models from the launch and core boxes that you can use as a combat patrol. (If they said otherwise, I missed it).
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Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
They'll do what they did with Indomitus. Most of the launch box will be in the core boxes (in varying amounts), and they'll sell the remaining sprue(s) from Leviathan at $100+ a pop as direct only products. So to get everything from Leviathan outside Leviathan, it'll cost something like 150-175% of the cost of the launch box. (plus some extra costs from the duplication between the different levels of core boxes)
I'm not sure there will be explicit combat patrol boxes as such, just a list of models from the launch and core boxes that you can use as a combat patrol. (If they said otherwise, I missed it).
They did confirm that the aforementioned nid units formed a combat patrol, which is a sales item in reality until now, so no reason to assume they won't sell it individually.
Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
They'll do what they did with Indomitus. Most of the launch box will be in the core boxes (in varying amounts), and they'll sell the remaining sprue(s) from Leviathan at $100+ a pop as direct only products. So to get everything from Leviathan outside Leviathan, it'll cost something like 150-175% of the cost of the launch box. (plus some extra costs from the duplication between the different levels of core boxes)
I'm not sure there will be explicit combat patrol boxes as such, just a list of models from the launch and core boxes that you can use as a combat patrol. (If they said otherwise, I missed it).
They did confirm that the aforementioned nid units formed a combat patrol, which is a sales item in reality until now, so no reason to assume they won't sell it individually.
Combat Patrol is also a game mode with set army lists in 10th ed, so it's no longer a term exclusively referring to the box with models.
I, too, may have missed word from GW about actual Combat Patrol boxes made from the Leviathan model, of course. The way they showed it at Warhammer Fest I got the impression that it was just going to be rules for Combat Patrol game mode for people who buy Leviathan.
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Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
They'll do what they did with Indomitus. Most of the launch box will be in the core boxes (in varying amounts), and they'll sell the remaining sprue(s) from Leviathan at $100+ a pop as direct only products. So to get everything from Leviathan outside Leviathan, it'll cost something like 150-175% of the cost of the launch box. (plus some extra costs from the duplication between the different levels of core boxes)
I'm not sure there will be explicit combat patrol boxes as such, just a list of models from the launch and core boxes that you can use as a combat patrol. (If they said otherwise, I missed it).
They did confirm that the aforementioned nid units formed a combat patrol, which is a sales item in reality until now, so no reason to assume they won't sell it individually.
Combat Patrol is also a game mode with set army lists in 10th ed, so it's no longer a term exclusively referring to the box with models.
I, too, may have missed word from GW about actual Combat Patrol boxes made from the Leviathan model, of course. The way they showed it at Warhammer Fest I got the impression that it was just going to be rules for Combat Patrol game mode for people who buy Leviathan.
And based on the few shots of the sprues we got back then it seems like barbgaunts and neurogaunts are on the same sprue but only one of them is shown in the image which is another indication for them just meaning buildable from the Leviathan box for the CP mode instead of an actual CP box
Is the 9th edition Codex written off, now? Will that one be one of the first in the new range's?
Will the price be $100 a book, now?
I have my mob boxes of twisted Metal and Plastic Nids, I guess it might be time to dust them off, again.
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Shadow Walker wrote: I wonder why they choose the contents for both Nids and SM Combat Patrols to be made of the minis included in the Leviathan box? Would the market not be flooded with the cheap halfs of both sides? Unless, there will never be enough Leviathan boxes to meet the demand, and they know people will want shiny new anyway?
They'll do what they did with Indomitus. Most of the launch box will be in the core boxes (in varying amounts), and they'll sell the remaining sprue(s) from Leviathan at $100+ a pop as direct only products. So to get everything from Leviathan outside Leviathan, it'll cost something like 150-175% of the cost of the launch box. (plus some extra costs from the duplication between the different levels of core boxes)
I'm not sure there will be explicit combat patrol boxes as such, just a list of models from the launch and core boxes that you can use as a combat patrol. (If they said otherwise, I missed it).
They did confirm that the aforementioned nid units formed a combat patrol, which is a sales item in reality until now, so no reason to assume they won't sell it individually.
Combat Patrol is also a game mode with set army lists in 10th ed, so it's no longer a term exclusively referring to the box with models.
I, too, may have missed word from GW about actual Combat Patrol boxes made from the Leviathan model, of course. The way they showed it at Warhammer Fest I got the impression that it was just going to be rules for Combat Patrol game mode for people who buy Leviathan.
And based on the few shots of the sprues we got back then it seems like barbgaunts and neurogaunts are on the same sprue but only one of them is shown in the image which is another indication for them just meaning buildable from the Leviathan box for the CP mode instead of an actual CP box
Interesting. If there is no dedicated CP box for us, it could point for another box, with different contents, in the future once the Leviathan is out of production.
Interesting. If there is no dedicated CP box for us, it could point for another box, with different contents, in the future once the Leviathan is out of production.
They explicitly said on the WHF stream that this is the dedicated CP box we're getting:
Are the Marines getting the new Redacticus Dreadnought in theirs?
I am very curious about the rules for the big choppy bug. It feels like he’s either doing a lot of work against all that heavy infantry or gives some of the Buffiest Buffs in all of Buffingdom.
Are the Marines getting the new Redacticus Dreadnought in theirs?
I am very curious about the rules for the big choppy bug. It feels like he’s either doing a lot of work against all that heavy infantry or gives some of the Buffiest Buffs in all of Buffingdom.
Marine CP:
Spoiler:
Also interested in the rules for the new bugs. We have the SK, but he was more of a known quantity.
Are the Marines getting the new Redacticus Dreadnought in theirs?
I am very curious about the rules for the big choppy bug. It feels like he’s either doing a lot of work against all that heavy infantry or gives some of the Buffiest Buffs in all of Buffingdom.
From the fluff, it does devour fallen enemies and turns them into some sort of psy-flamer, which gets especially potent if it manages to eat psykers. So not the thing that is most suited for a combat patrol game, as psykers will probably not be extra-abundant in these, but it might get adjusted rules that are a better fit for those games.
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
To be fair, the community site is not the best for archived stuff.
I keep up with it daily, but when I go back to try to find links, it sometimes takes a little efforts to find the right article that actually has the info.
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
To be fair, the community site is not the best for archived stuff.
I keep up with it daily, but when I go back to try to find links, it sometimes takes a little efforts to find the right article that actually has the info.
The community site has horrific search and archive functions, and then a lot of 10th edition stuff is actually shunted of to its own sub-site, or the Warhammer40000.com site, and on top of that almost half of the 10th stuff is hidden in graphics and vignettes that also have no Alt-text, so you're gak outta luck anyways even if you remember what to look for.
I don't begrudge anyone just asking the forums, GWs site literally drives you insane if you're looking for specific stuff that's not shopping-related.
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
Thing is the community site is fine if you check it every single day. Even ignoring the searching tools, the amount of news we get is pretty rapid now, esp with 10th edition marketing speeding up that news a lot. So there's a fair chunk of information turn over each day. If you don't know an article on X has already been posted and its not one of the last 2 or 3 then you might well not know information that's already well known.
But, you could have later gotten the £75 RRP Necron Royal Court for £8.99 RRP in issue 50 of the Imperium magazine run (assuming you beat the scalpers to it).
If I was buying into Tyranids and suffering from advanced stage FOMO-itis I'd be looking at splitting 3 boxes with a Marine player, together selling the 3rd set of books/cards to a non Marine/Nid player. So RRP £450 (3 x 15)) is what we are expecting, try to get it from a 20% discount store down to £360 RRP, sell the books/cards for say £20, then split the price in half, so £170 for 3 of the Tyranid halves plus 1 set of book/cards is a good start to your new army.
Although interestingly for the Necron box set last time around, the Canoptek Reanimator, the Skorpekh Lord, the Plasmancer, the Cryptek Thralls and the Royal Warden were all generally take one or none ofs for the whole edition, but fine for super casual games. The Skorpekhs and Scarabs saw the longest run of being good with the Warriors coming in sort of strong later on.
But I am glad that I have 3 x each of the trash/useless in 9th options as I head towards 10th.
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
To be fair, the community site is not the best for archived stuff.
I keep up with it daily, but when I go back to try to find links, it sometimes takes a little efforts to find the right article that actually has the info.
The community site has horrific search and archive functions, and then a lot of 10th edition stuff is actually shunted of to its own sub-site, or the Warhammer40000.com site, and on top of that almost half of the 10th stuff is hidden in graphics and vignettes that also have no Alt-text, so you're gak outta luck anyways even if you remember what to look for.
I don't begrudge anyone just asking the forums, GWs site literally drives you insane if you're looking for specific stuff that's not shopping-related.
This! I remember looking for X info I knew was posted there few days ago, and being frustrated by finding nothing via search function. I had to check all the articles list, and clicking randomly at titles that looked promising about the topic I was looking to find.
But, you could have later gotten the £75 RRP Necron Royal Court for £8.99 RRP in issue 50 of the Imperium magazine run (assuming you beat the scalpers to it).
If I was buying into Tyranids and suffering from advanced stage FOMO-itis I'd be looking at splitting 3 boxes with a Marine player, together selling the 3rd set of books/cards to a non Marine/Nid player. So RRP £450 (3 x 15)) is what we are expecting, try to get it from a 20% discount store down to £360 RRP, sell the books/cards for say £20, then split the price in half, so £170 for 3 of the Tyranid halves plus 1 set of book/cards is a good start to your new army.
Although interestingly for the Necron box set last time around, the Canoptek Reanimator, the Skorpekh Lord, the Plasmancer, the Cryptek Thralls and the Royal Warden were all generally take one or none ofs for the whole edition, but fine for super casual games. The Skorpekhs and Scarabs saw the longest run of being good with the Warriors coming in sort of strong later on.
But I am glad that I have 3 x each of the trash/useless in 9th options as I head towards 10th.
Just to add to that, Valrak said (some time ago) that people from the magazine/partworks side of things told him there would be something like the Imperium magazine for 10th edition as well, which probably means you can pick up similar discounts eventually.
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
To be fair, the community site is not the best for archived stuff.
I keep up with it daily, but when I go back to try to find links, it sometimes takes a little efforts to find the right article that actually has the info.
For 10th it has all articles collected in 1 page you get to from front page
Dudeface wrote: As an aside I find it interesting how many people come here to find stuff out that's openly available on the community site.
To be fair, the community site is not the best for archived stuff.
I keep up with it daily, but when I go back to try to find links, it sometimes takes a little efforts to find the right article that actually has the info.
For 10th it has all articles collected in 1 page you get to from front page
But not, for example, all the warhammerfest reveals. Which were significant.
That was classic war-com. Write an underwhelming AF article about the new unit. Watch it turn out to have some very potent psychic attack that they just left off. Or maybe it will be the second coming of the Maleceptor, who debuted with some of the worst rules that GW has ever written back in 7th
They explicitly said on the WHF stream that this is the dedicated CP box we're getting:
Spoiler:
No, they said that's the CPthe Leviathan box can make. They never said that would be the retail CP.
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