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 Bolognesus wrote:
https://twitter.com/warhammer/status/1675565138521341953/photo/1

top right apparently the mentioned Aethon Heavy Sentinel, acc. to warhammer official themselves in the thread.

And according to the earlier previews (we've seen it already).

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/17/lifting-the-bonnet-on-the-aethon-heavy-sentinel-the-faster-meaner-solar-auxilia-combat-walker/

Filler article today, with a small amount of fluff on the new sentinel unit.

More Epic content in the 'near future'.

They could show us the Sprue...?

RazorEdge wrote:
They could show us the Sprue...?

That'd spill the beans too early, maybe. Like, how many vehicles can we expect to see per box and all. They might want to keep it "secret" for the moment.

Although most probably the stuff in the launch box is a pretty good indicator of what to expect.

 Albertorius wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
They could show us the Sprue...?

That'd spill the beans too early, maybe. Like, how many vehicles can we expect to see per box and all. They might want to keep it "secret" for the moment.

Although most probably the stuff in the launch box is a pretty good indicator of what to expect.

The cost/model is what I'm mostly interested in. If Predators come 3 to a sprue, 6 to a box, and a box costs the same as 6 Lightnings do for Aeronautica Imperialis.... then I think GW will have priced me out of it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
They could show us the Sprue...?

That'd spill the beans too early, maybe. Like, how many vehicles can we expect to see per box and all. They might want to keep it "secret" for the moment.

Although most probably the stuff in the launch box is a pretty good indicator of what to expect.

The cost/model is what I'm mostly interested in. If Predators come 3 to a sprue, 6 to a box, and a box costs the same as 6 Lightnings do for Aeronautica Imperialis.... then I think GW will have priced me out of it.

You do know that's the most probable case, right? Or even the most favorable... I would expect them to go the way of knights: 3 per sprue, one sprue per box.

 Albertorius wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
They could show us the Sprue...?

That'd spill the beans too early, maybe. Like, how many vehicles can we expect to see per box and all. They might want to keep it "secret" for the moment.

Although most probably the stuff in the launch box is a pretty good indicator of what to expect.

The cost/model is what I'm mostly interested in. If Predators come 3 to a sprue, 6 to a box, and a box costs the same as 6 Lightnings do for Aeronautica Imperialis.... then I think GW will have priced me out of it.

You do know that's the most probable case, right? Or even the most favorable... I would expect them to go the way of knights: 3 per sprue, one sprue per box.

Well if it's Priced, like arenotica then we can expect it to do about as well and last about as long. Maybe a little longer as people do like their titans.

Personally I don't have much intrest buying into a dead game.

 Albertorius wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:

RazorEdge wrote:
They could show us the Sprue...?

That'd spill the beans too early, maybe. Like, how many vehicles can we expect to see per box and all. They might want to keep it "secret" for the moment.

Although most probably the stuff in the launch box is a pretty good indicator of what to expect.

The cost/model is what I'm mostly interested in. If Predators come 3 to a sprue, 6 to a box, and a box costs the same as 6 Lightnings do for Aeronautica Imperialis.... then I think GW will have priced me out of it.

You do know that's the most probable case, right? Or even the most favorable... I would expect them to go the way of knights: 3 per sprue, one sprue per box.

Maybe, but the Knights are quite complex, and Predators are going to be physically smaller than Lightnings once constructed, so I'm hoping against hope that they're at least 9 per box and perhaps slightly cheaper than AI boxed sets.

Honestly, there's a good chance GW just kills Epic for me completely

With what's on the launch box, we can pretty much give it for granted that we'll have 3 preds per sprue. I don't really expect GW to sell us three sprues per box.


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Heh, so tey posted it... early?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/17/lifting-the-bonnet-on-the-aethon-heavy-sentinel-the-faster-meaner-solar-auxilia-combat-walker/?utm_source=CUSTOMERS&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=gw_17th_july_legions_spa_&utm_content=&utm_term=

Kind of looks absurdly top heavy...

 Albertorius wrote:


Kind of looks absurdly top heavy...

lmao isn't everything walker based that GW makes?

I would like 10 Predators per box! A full company, 3 detachments and 1 HQ Predator

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


Kind of looks absurdly top heavy...

lmao isn't everything walker based that GW makes?

A point xD. But the regular Sentinel seems more,,, you know, balanced, than that.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:


Kind of looks absurdly top heavy...

lmao isn't everything walker based that GW makes?

At least it’s not Warmachine with tiny ickle babby legs and HUGE HONKING BEEFCAKE TORSO. 😂😂

 Albertorius wrote:
With what's on the launch box, we can pretty much give it for granted that we'll have 3 preds per sprue. I don't really expect GW to sell us three sprues per box.

I expect smallish vehicles like Predators to come three per sprue with two sprues per box, following the example of Aeronautica Imperialis.

 Pacific wrote:
I would like 10 Predators per box! A full company, 3 detachments and 1 HQ Predator

Yea, about that...

Maybe it's at least a mixed sprue of three preds and two sicarans, two sprues to a box? Because if this ends up being GBP25+ just for six chintzy preds that's... problematic at least.

Aeronautica models are expensive but the benefit is you buy a couple boxes and you're essentially set for a complete force, with options, as I understand.

That'll be a very, very hard buy-in to pitch for a side game/system.

 Albertorius wrote:
Kind of looks absurdly top heavy...

The top-mounted weapon and side-mounted missile pods blend visually into the "top," making it look that way.

Might look better with some spacers of the missile pods.

My issue with the sentinel is it follows GW's decade long psychosis of covering every inch of every new model in guns.

I really like it. It's something a bit different, and you can imagine it moving around like something from a stop motion animation, like ED209 in the original Robocop.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
My issue with the sentinel is it follows GW's decade long psychosis of covering every inch of every new model in guns.

It has one gun and two missile launchers. If you think this is too much you apparently never saw an IFV in last 30 years:


Having a gun and then two missile launchers on the sides is standard loadout these days (I'd even say light one, usually there is also automatic MG turret on top and some sort of close defense system, too) but I guess GW taking cues from RL designs is somehow 'psychosis' and not just total ignorance of actual military designs

What the hell is Forumwrmy tho

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/18/legions-imperialis-the-epic-history-of-small-scale-warhammer/

This article is fairly in-depth for WarCom, and even includes comparisons of old and new Epic minis.

It also says regarding the 1991 edition of Space Marine:
"This edition is one of the major influences for the Legions Imperialis rules – but it’s important to note that they are not the same game."

Woooooo!!!

That same article wrote: This edition is one of the major influences for the Legions Imperialis rules – but it’s important to note that they are not the same game.

Woooooooooooooooooooooooo! I’ll take 2nd Ed being the major influence!

That is quite a cool article and good to see some of the history of the game, there will be a lot of new people coming into the scale and think it's good to tell them this game is standing on the shoulders of (very tiny) giants!

Super, super happy that it sounds like SM 2nd ed is the foundational format for this game. Hopefully they have kept the three factors that, for me, make it my favourite version of Epic:
1) The streamlined rules, fast pace of play which means you can play massive battles.
2) The abstract process of giving orders (secretly), trying to guess what your opponent will do, while giving the feeling of being a commander looking down on the battle.
3) The army construction system of companies, special and support cards, which was *so* good I have never understood why GW didn't use similar for all of their other games.

I can live without the cards, provided the structure they represented remains roughly the same (so each company can have x support, and each unit being fixed in composition)

Yes, me too. Although it would be fun if they did them again. Or imagine a cool little app where you could drag and drop little card icons to build up a force!

It's pretty sad, but honestly that one sentence has just made my day

For me and seemingly for GW it was Epic’s heyday. I mean, any rule system that lasts nearly a decade with, from memory only minor tweaks, has to have a lot going for it.

So it does make sense to go back to it. Especially the Order system, which is where the real tactical skill came into play. It’s all fine and well packing your force full of dead Killy things, but if you’re losing sight of Objectives, you can easily failed to accurately predict what I’m up to in return.

Man, removing those tabs is going to be such a PITA...

so the bases are cast between the legs and not underneath, making it hard to cover with base decoration and will be a problem removing them

not the best idea for the models

They're not *that* noticeable even in these relative close-ups, at table distances they're barely gonna register.

Billicus wrote:
They're not *that* noticeable even in these relative close-ups, at table distances they're barely gonna register.

Disagree. They're really noticeable.

They were my first impression takeaway from the reveal. If they were required for casting, they should've designed bases with recesses, like the old epic bases.