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Nice that they're still doing fairly frequent previews.

Makes me think that while perhaps not immediate, it's still not too far off...

Lets hope so.

SamusDrake wrote:

 Flinty wrote:
But an airmobile army isn’t just one type of unit. It carries a lot of infantry and walkers, and possibly tanks as well if there is a unit similar to the thunderhawk transporter available.

Naturally, but what they said in that article is that you'll also have the option to take a whole army of just Gunships. Nothing but Gunships.

Speaking of which, Cablezworth can make an Apocalypse-Now style video of nothing but...GUNSHIPS!

It says ‘mounted entirely in gunships’ not a whole army of just gunships.

I am sure you guys discussed it here but why the reason for 'August Launch' (literally a months notice), then suddenly a delay?

Has there been a reason given or do we suspect it was to drum up excitement?

VAYASEN wrote:
I am sure you guys discussed it here but why the reason for 'August Launch' (literally a months notice), then suddenly a delay?

Has there been a reason given or do we suspect it was to drum up excitement?

No official reason has been given. It's clear that something unexpected as gone wrong though.

There have been various rumours about misprints with the rulebook that were serious enough to warrant a full recall and delay. This seems quite likely, given that copies of the starter box were given out to reviewers in July ready for an August launch. Most likely they pointed out the issues to GW.

 ImAGeek wrote:


It says ‘mounted entirely in gunships’ not a whole army of just gunships.

Fair point and we can move on.


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VAYASEN wrote:
I am sure you guys discussed it here but why the reason for 'August Launch' (literally a months notice), then suddenly a delay?

Has there been a reason given or do we suspect it was to drum up excitement?

No reason, but their warehouse was having some difficulty according to one of my local independents. Quite a few of their products were out of stock during that time and only recently come back in stock; AT starter set, for instance.

Youtubers were told to return books. That indicates issue with book.

Also the warehouse issue was at point at which li books were already done and ready for release.

It's also not unusual for the warcom team to be told one thing, and the rest of the business told another.

Local warhammer store said coin of the month was supposed to be on the 9th this month. warcom said it was the 2nd. turns out it was the 2nd, despite store managers being told it was the 9th. Now take that tiny mix-up and blow it up across 500 stores, major distribution centers, and factor in shipping delays and the million other things that can happen in getting product from manufacturer to customer.

Always always always take warcom articles with a bit of salt. It's great to see they're still trying to keep the hype train up with LI, but all it'll take is for them to skip a week and we'll all go doom and gloom fast.

So more book info might be very imminent.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/16f7fca/who_wants_an_early_copy_of_legions_imperialis_lol/?share_id=sNSyMi5j8a3VHbSlaBkkf&utm_content=2&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

Maybe I'm wrong, but this sort of cocktease usually means someone found one photo and is trolling.

"printed in the UK"

That copy of the book is printed in the UK and is individually shrinkwrapped. One of the boxed game review copies distributed in July would have almost certainly been printed in China.

Good chance it's a reissued version that's being sent back out to content creators.

Designed in the uk, i don't think it was printed there. Oh wait, nevermind I see it now.

 xttz wrote:
That copy of the book is printed in the UK and is individually shrinkwrapped. One of the boxed game review copies distributed in July would have almost certainly been printed in China.

Good chance it's a reissued version that's being sent back out to content creators.

Yup. We know from Peachy that GW gets things printed in the UK if they miss the 18 week deadline for China shipping (or in this case needed a panic reprint). So this is gonna be the reissue.

 The Phazer wrote:

 xttz wrote:
That copy of the book is printed in the UK and is individually shrinkwrapped. One of the boxed game review copies distributed in July would have almost certainly been printed in China.

Good chance it's a reissued version that's being sent back out to content creators.

Yup. We know from Peachy that GW gets things printed in the UK if they miss the 18 week deadline for China shipping (or in this case needed a panic reprint). So this is gonna be the reissue.

That's exciting given that if the op is genuine they plan on reading it all tonight. So hopefully should hear a lot more by the morning.

They did one more post about Primarchs and psychic powers here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/16fcebl/about_the_li_rule_book_leaks/
and said they would add more in that post the next day.

Also if that is the reprinted version which it seems to be the delay shouldn't take that much longer. Very likely not in September as one reprinted book doesn't mean they have the tens of thousand they would need and then they still need to ship it around the world but October seems possible to me

Well. Color me guardedly optimistic that we'll see this a bit sooner than I'd previously thought...

If that's fake, it's a very good one.

 Matrindur wrote:
Also if that is the reprinted version which it seems to be the delay shouldn't take that much longer. Very likely not in September as one reprinted book doesn't mean they have the tens of thousand they would need and then they still need to ship it around the world but October seems possible to me

This may come off as a joke due to how GW has handled releases in the recent past, but what's to stop GW from printing, let's call it a minimum amount of books in the UK just to keep the release delay to a minimum and keep extra costs down while they're at it? They don't mind underproducing and selling out within minutes. The core box is just that, right? A continuously available starter product? They could easily order a smallish print run from a UK printer and a larger one from China at the same time because they're going to restock the box anyway.

They likely ordered enough books to cover the starter box stock currently sitting in distribution warehouses around the world. Epic products will be taking up valuable space needed for planned future releases, like TOW or xmas boxes.

A bigger question is how long repacking will take. Just sending out revised review copies of books doesn't meant they've finishing fixing up tens of thousands of boxes in several locations...

 xttz wrote:
They likely ordered enough books to cover the starter box stock currently sitting in distribution warehouses around the world. Epic products will be taking up valuable space needed for planned future releases, like TOW or xmas boxes.

A bigger question is how long repacking will take. Just sending out revised review copies of books doesn't meant they've finishing fixing up tens of thousands of boxes in several locations...

And getting them to their distribution centers

Gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!!!!


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 Geifer wrote:

 Matrindur wrote:
Also if that is the reprinted version which it seems to be the delay shouldn't take that much longer. Very likely not in September as one reprinted book doesn't mean they have the tens of thousand they would need and then they still need to ship it around the world but October seems possible to me

This may come off as a joke due to how GW has handled releases in the recent past, but what's to stop GW from printing, let's call it a minimum amount of books in the UK just to keep the release delay to a minimum and keep extra costs down while they're at it? They don't mind underproducing and selling out within minutes. The core box is just that, right? A continuously available starter product? They could easily order a smallish print run from a UK printer and a larger one from China at the same time because they're going to restock the box anyway.

The UK Print industry is tiny, and expensive. Like….stupid expensive compared to getting it done overseas. 20, 30 years ago? Not so much. But it’s a dying industry on this benighted island in the modern day.

I’ve got to admit I was disappointed it wasn’t LI in the ‘Next Week’ article yesterday (and I’m perfectly aware it’s an unrealistic hope) but the book is a promising sign.

One day, one day.

 xttz wrote:
They likely ordered enough books to cover the starter box stock currently sitting in distribution warehouses around the world. Epic products will be taking up valuable space needed for planned future releases, like TOW or xmas boxes.

A bigger question is how long repacking will take. Just sending out revised review copies of books doesn't meant they've finishing fixing up tens of thousands of boxes in several locations...

I was so busy musing that I kind of skipped the point. Yes, I was thinking about warehouse space as well. While the starter boxes no doubt take up plenty of space, all the other unit and detachment boxes do so as well. And they won't get released until the starter box is out, making the space issue that much worse and the release of the starter box the most critical thing.

Thus my train of thought. GW could order fewer rulebooks in the UK, thereby saving money and also time repackaging starter sets with the new books. Less time to print the whole batch and less time for repackaging means the release can happen earlier compared to a full batch to cover all the starters. They free up less space from starter sets due to some of them still waiting for their books, but all the individual unit boxes can now get released and stop taking up space.

Legions Imperialis has less initial stock, but stuff doesn't sit around in the warehouse anymore for the most part. People generally don't react badly enough to things selling out quickly, so that's not something GW needs to consider. Then a month or two later when the book order from China shows up, the remaining starter sets get repackaged, new starter sets are made and people who missed out on the limited initial release can join the fun.

The Legions Imperialis rulebook is probably one of the few products GW would not want to sell out immediately, as it is essential for the game. Thus, its availabilty is a crutial factor for the demand of other Legions Imperialis products.
However, I don‘t expect GW to swallow the extra cost. Even though it is not a sound strategy from a business point of view, to price starter products too high, I could see GW to release Legions Imperialis at a higher price than originally intended to cover the cost of the blunder.
Maybe a release in Q4 instead of Q3 already entails such a price increase, as we all know that prices go up over time.
Let‘s hope the release is soon and the prices are reasonable!

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

The UK Print industry is tiny, and expensive. Like….stupid expensive compared to getting it done overseas. 20, 30 years ago? Not so much. But it’s a dying industry on this benighted island in the modern day.

Why? The UK used to use China and other countries primarily for labour intensive tasks, as labour was significantly cheaper there.
I don't know the printing industry, but I imagine a lot of it is automated and not as labour intensive. Raw materials will be purchased just the same as they would be in China, ie papers, inks etc. So why the massive difference in prices?
I still don't know why GW haven't invested in building and staffing it's own printing press in the UK. They make so many millions in profit, it wouldn't bankrupt them and in the long term, would be a far better solution than waiting on 3 month boat trips and the possibility of non-GW staff leaking info. I guess excess profit and the shareholders outweigh efficiency. A sad indication of the way the world works these days.

MarkNorfolk wrote:
I’ve got to admit I was disappointed it wasn’t LI in the ‘Next Week’ article yesterday (and I’m perfectly aware it’s an unrealistic hope) but the book is a promising sign.

One day, one day.

I'd guess that they are being shipped out to previewers this week, ready for articles etc to be written for 23rd, release date then the 30th (so three weeks to fix the existing boxes).

New rules leaks here:
https://imgur.com/a/eS1y9rz

No idea where they came from just cross posted from B&C

 Matrindur wrote:
New rules leaks here:
https://imgur.com/a/eS1y9rz

No idea where they came from just cross posted from B&C

Happy to see variants of Malcador, and many loadouts.

But excessive for a game this scale. One can customize ALL weapons to extreme detail. Even the pistols can be used at 6"...

 Matrindur wrote:
New rules leaks here:
https://imgur.com/a/eS1y9rz

No idea where they came from just cross posted from B&C

Fantastic, made my afternoon.

They probably recalled the books because they had rules for running Legios and Household forces.