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Cursessss, Eumerin! I would've gotten away with it if it hadn't been for you!

Well at the very least, I got interested in making White Scars.

I expected for bikes/jetbikes a lot later so I got bit more interested that these are just around the (at the moment, unknown) corner.

SamusDrake wrote:
You see? Warhammer can be fun!

The problem is that for this version you will probably need three rulebooks open to carry out a drop-pod assault, and there will be an FAQ clarification on some contradictory arrival/reaction fire rule.. (I am only half joking here!)

Hope they do the heroes of the Heresy at some point. Tarvitz, Rylanor etc. Loved some of those characters.

VAYASEN wrote:
Hope they do the heroes of the Heresy at some point. Tarvitz, Rylanor etc. Loved some of those characters.

Definitely! 8mm ickle primarchs...

On that though, it's curious that none of the previews to date have been for FW stuff - it's all been plastic (correct me if ive missed something!). Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled at how much is coming in hard plastic (depending on expensive it still ends up being...), but you'd have thought there would be some FW releases coming too; whether that's characters or primarchs, or just vehicles / units they aren't making in plastic.

Primarchs on 25mm bases! Just like the old Avatar of Khaine…

 Pacific wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
You see? Warhammer can be fun!

The problem is that for this version you will probably need three rulebooks open to carry out a drop-pod assault, and there will be an FAQ clarification on some contradictory arrival/reaction fire rule.. (I am only half joking here!)

That's what Stage Manager on iPadOS 17 is for! Just tested and I can get 3 pdfs/epubs to fit on my screen simultaneously (tidal will be in the background providing atmo bgm as usual )

Seriously, I stopped taking my books to games already around the turn of the twenties.. and I fully expect LI to be available also as epubs?

 tauist wrote:

Seriously, I stopped taking my books to games already around the turn of the twenties.. and I fully expect LI to be available also as epubs?

Most if not all recent books for AT / HH have been sold as epub, so I wouldn't be surprised.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
They say the Leviathan is a tight fit, but wouldn't the Deredeo's guns be more of an issue?

Telescoping barrels.

 Pacific wrote:


The problem is that for this version you will probably need three rulebooks open to carry out a drop-pod assault, and there will be an FAQ clarification on some contradictory arrival/reaction fire rule.. (I am only half joking here!)

Ah-haaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You could take phone snaps of just the juicy bits and leave the books at home!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Pacific wrote:


The problem is that for this version you will probably need three rulebooks open to carry out a drop-pod assault, and there will be an FAQ clarification on some contradictory arrival/reaction fire rule.. (I am only half joking here!)

Ah-haaaaaaaaaaaaaa! You could take phone snaps of just the juicy bits and leave the books at home!

But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

 xttz wrote:

Most if not all recent books for AT / HH have been sold as epub, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I think it was only the AT rulebook and Matched Play Guide that never made it to epub, two of the books you’d really want as epubs.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Interesting. Seems the Palisades only protect other Drop Pods from the wording.

I wouldn't get too worked up over the wording of the WarCom article. They frequently take liberties with their language in ways that have nothing to do with the rules.

I would guess that shields will be a "within X inches" effect as opposed to "only unit type X."

 Mallo wrote:

But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

Well now! I would then suggest...ummm....well...that is to say...urrrhhhh...

...dont you have a study or library in your home? Come now, they're all the rage these days! Even Captain Nemo had them and he was in a cramped submarine!

 Mallo wrote:


But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

If you don't have space for GW rulebooks, that means you have even less space for a GW army, even at 10mm scale. It's a very space stressing hobby.

Sarouan wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

If you don't have space for GW rulebooks, that means you have even less space for a GW army, even at 10mm scale. It's a very space stressing hobby.

Dunno what to tell you, I'm pretty sure the Newcromunda books take up a lot more space than an Epic army

 Albertorius wrote:

Sarouan wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

If you don't have space for GW rulebooks, that means you have even less space for a GW army, even at 10mm scale. It's a very space stressing hobby.

Dunno what to tell you, I'm pretty sure the Newcromunda books take up a lot more space than an Epic army

They should have made that new skirmish case look like a Necromunda rulebook, so it could fit in on a shelf.

 Albertorius wrote:

Sarouan wrote:

 Mallo wrote:


But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

If you don't have space for GW rulebooks, that means you have even less space for a GW army, even at 10mm scale. It's a very space stressing hobby.

Dunno what to tell you, I'm pretty sure the Newcromunda books take up a lot more space than an Epic army

For sure - I can fit an entire 10k epic horde army in a relatively small, over the shoulder KR case

I put all of the Necromunda rulebooks into the original box for transport, which was a mistake as I almost put my back out lifting it out of the boot of the car

Trying to carry all Necromunda books with you for a game is like trying to carry all battletomes of Warhammer Battle and the rulebook for a game ; it's stupid and useless.

But don't worry, with LI, you'll have just one big rulebook and the expansion book when it's out. It'll be a few more years at best before it gets to Necromunda level.

Sarouan wrote:
Trying to carry all Necromunda books with you for a game is like trying to carry all battletomes of Warhammer Battle and the rulebook for a game ; it's stupid and useless.

But don't worry, with LI, you'll have just one big rulebook and the expansion book when it's out. It'll be a few more years at best before it gets to Necromunda level.

Time will tell, I'm sure. For the moment, the only think we know for sure is that it's going to have an expansion book right away, just like Necromunda did.

Sarouan wrote:
Trying to carry all Necromunda books with you for a game is like trying to carry all battletomes of Warhammer Battle and the rulebook for a game ; it's stupid and useless.

But don't worry, with LI, you'll have just one big rulebook and the expansion book when it's out. It'll be a few more years at best before it gets to Necromunda level.

If Pacific is anything like some of the local guys here, he probably organizes games for his club. That means he's bringing a large collection of minis across different factions + terrain, and as such needs to bring the rules necessary to cover all the possibilities in that collection for his players as befits the nature of the gaming he has organized (pick up casual play/demos, campaign/league,etc.)

You *could* just go and photocopy relevant pages and make packets for people, but depending on what hes doing that might entail a substantial amount of work, especially if you need to cover all the campaign related rules and trading outpost stuff, etc.

Thanks yes that was it exactly

A campaign for four of us, I had to supply miniatures and terrain for everyone, even print-offs of gang rosters from YakTribe

I have since found One Page Rules a bit better in this regard, a bit of a misnomer as its about 25 pages but still much easier on the back!

SamusDrake wrote:

 Mallo wrote:

But I play at home, and don't have enough space for more GW rulebooks!

Well now! I would then suggest...ummm....well...that is to say...urrrhhhh...

...dont you have a study or library in your home? Come now, they're all the rage these days! Even Captain Nemo had them and he was in a cramped submarine!

Just endless corridors of book shelves, friends and relatives lost within them for days. Only this is just for the necromunda gang books.

Sarouan wrote:
But don't worry, with LI, you'll have just one big rulebook and the expansion book when it's out. It'll be a few more MONTHS at best before it gets to Necromunda level.

There, fixed that for you!

Pacific wrote:Thanks yes that was it exactly

A campaign for four of us, I had to supply miniatures and terrain for everyone, even print-offs of gang rosters from YakTribe

I have since found One Page Rules a bit better in this regard, a bit of a misnomer as its about 25 pages but still much easier on the back!

I love the fubar rules. They are what One page rules originated from. Almost all the variants were just a single page, plus a spreadsheet for army lists.

Used to play the 6mm version a lot for fantasy & Epic games. Not very crunchy at all, sure. But allowed us to get games played very quickly and just have some fun.

I think one page rules kind of pushed it too far in trying to keep up with the GW cycle. Took what was a fun set of narrative rules and turned it into another edition cycle, just with less rules/cost.

chaos0xomega wrote:

If Pacific is anything like some of the local guys here, he probably organizes games for his club. That means he's bringing a large collection of minis across different factions + terrain, and as such needs to bring the rules necessary to cover all the possibilities in that collection for his players as befits the nature of the gaming he has organized (pick up casual play/demos, campaign/league,etc.)

You *could* just go and photocopy relevant pages and make packets for people, but depending on what hes doing that might entail a substantial amount of work, especially if you need to cover all the campaign related rules and trading outpost stuff, etc.

Then he does like me and all the logistics and transport shouldn't rely on one poor guy on foot. Locals should at least give him a ride for everything he does for them in return.

But that is hardly GW's fault to make big books with loads of rules and background inside. And sure, there are games with less rules that are certainly easy to carry (and play).

 Mallo wrote:

Sarouan wrote:
But don't worry, with LI, you'll have just one big rulebook and the expansion book when it's out. It'll be a few more MONTHS at best before it gets to Necromunda level.

There, fixed that for you!

Hah, you wish. You forget LI is a specialist / FW game : it will have a strong launch, but then you will have to wait for a long, long time before having new stuff to keep playing. See Horus Heresy. See Blood Bowl. See Necromunda - yeah, I guess there are enough examples already.

This is nothing as core games like AoS and 40k. This is just a "niche" game to reach as many people as they can on the market and a "secondary team" to work on it.

Do you even know how much time Necromunda needed to reach that level they have now ? Years. It wasn't in a "mere months" they got that many books in the library as they are right now. I still remember the complaints of players for having to wait for their gang book to be finally released and "compete" with the others "properly". Here with LI, I wouldn't be surprised we get stuck with 2 books and miniatures they previewed so far for a long time already.

 Mallo wrote:

Just endless corridors of book shelves, friends and relatives lost within them for days. Only this is just for the necromunda gang books.

LOL! There is a fair few of those Necro books, to be fair.

People still think its out before Xmas?. Im losing faith.

I'm not.

The next announcement on Sunday will be for AOS, then Epic will be a November pre-order.

From 4chan:

RazorEdge wrote:
From 4chan:

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Mikhael says preorder Nov 4th