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Vorian wrote:
Do things sell out on the morning if release like they do in the rest of the world?

Are the starters, cards, terrain and bases all going to be gone today/early next week?

Similar to the rest of the world I suppose.

The independent retailers offering 10-20% discount all sell out pretty fast. The GW official store takes a lot longer to sell out.

The online stores I normally frequent all sold out within minutes, the GW store 8 hours later has sold out of the cards, the Baneblades, the Thunderhawk, the terrain, and I think that's about it, everything else still seems to be in stock, including the starter.

The independents... Gap Games and The Combat Company are probably the largest ones and they're all sold out of everything. Some of the smaller ones still have some stuff but are sold out of bits and pieces.

I fully suspect that my FLGS, that doesn't offer a discount, will have a few boxes on release day. Based on past experience with previous GW releases, it seems like they sell a handful of preorders then get a few extra boxes on the day and they remain in stock for a while, nothing like the 10's of boxes that go through the online retailers, just a handful sold to the regulars.

Maybe this is too much of a stereotype, but it seems GW in Australia these days is mostly middle aged guys with enough excess cash that dropping a few grand on GW products isn't a big deal. I don't see much in the way of a younger audience like back when I started, or if there is they don't hang around the stores or groups I do.

Just wondering how big the Aethon Heavy Sentinels are compared to Armigers. Shorter?

SamusDrake wrote:
Just wondering how big the Aethon Heavy Sentinels are compared to Armigers. Shorter?

Dunno how big Armigers are, but the Sentinals look similar sized to Contemptors, maybe a bit broader.

Yeah, that would be smaller then.

Just considering the Solar Aux infantry set for £24, with the bonus intention of writing AT rules for the Heavies.

Still trying to decide whether I’m going Marines or Solar Auxilia.

Marines mean I can mirror my Heresy Dark Angels quite nicely.

But….Solar Auxilia really look to scratch that 2nd Ed itch.

Cue picture of "Why can't we have both!" girl. (Who is, after a quick Google about the ad, about 23 now).

Not sure I want that sort of army. I don’t mind Titan allies, or indeed Knights. But for reasons I can’t explain, Solar Auxilia and Marines just doesn’t sit right for me.

I know that stance is against the background, but not everything in my head makes sense.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Not sure I want that sort of army. I don’t mind Titan allies, or indeed Knights. But for reasons I can’t explain, Solar Auxilia and Marines just doesn’t sit right for me.

I know that stance is against the background, but not everything in my head makes sense.

I’m not super familiar with the fluff for Auxilia, I assume in game terms they’re a stand in for any human troopers fighting alongside or against re marines?

I was thinking of using my 6mm not-dkok from Vanguard as Auxilia.

They’re sort of peak Mere Smelly Hoomans. Arguably more Kasrkin than Guardsman type stuff.

Maybe Marines and just Solar tanks? Bit of a firepower never hurt.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They’re sort of peak Mere Smelly Hoomans. Arguably more Kasrkin than Guardsman type stuff.

Fair enough. When do they actually start popping up in the fluff? I think I'm about a third the way through the HH books (with lots of skipping, only read about 15 to 20 books) and yet I don't recall the Solar Auxilia being mentioned at all. Lots of mention of regular humans fighting alongside the Legions, don't think I recall seeing "Solar Auxilia" specifically mentioned though.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the Auxilia models, but I like tanks, so I'll maybe do some tank companies (I already have 20 or so Basilisks and 20 or so Leman Russes at Epic scale) but don't see me buying any infantry.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They’re sort of peak Mere Smelly Hoomans. Arguably more Kasrkin than Guardsman type stuff.

Fair enough. When do they actually start popping up in the fluff? I think I'm about a third the way through the HH books (with lots of skipping, only read about 15 to 20 books) and yet I don't recall the Solar Auxilia being mentioned at all. Lots of mention of regular humans fighting alongside the Legions, don't think I recall seeing "Solar Auxilia" specifically mentioned though.

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the Auxilia models, but I like tanks, so I'll maybe do some tank companies (I already have 20 or so Basilisks and 20 or so Leman Russes at Epic scale) but don't see me buying any infantry.

It wouldn't surprise me if Solar Auxilia is a bit like the Imperial Guard now being the Astra Militarum. Ergo its a semi-new name that means the same thing, but which just won't appear in earlier books and lore because that wasn't what they were called back then.

But the solar auxilia isn`t like a really brand new thing introduced recently, is it? I`m not that familiar with the fluff, but the SA infantry have been available in 28 mm from forge world for years. And according to the info on the various wikis, they are supposed to be the best non-marine troops out there, so more like tempestus scions rather than imperial guard. Although for the time being SA will probably be the main component of the imperial army in LI since I doubt that GW will suddenly release another guard-like army. Especially with the mechanicum being another important part of the horus heresy.

Edit: I`ve found that the SA have been introduced in 2014 book "The Horus Heresy Book Four - Conquest", so depending on how you look at it - it`s relatively recent addition to fluff, but at the same time, it`s already been almost 10 years.

Kretualdo wrote:


Edit: I`ve found that the SA have been introduced in 2014 book "The Horus Heresy Book Four - Conquest", so depending on how you look at it - it`s relatively recent addition to fluff, but at the same time, it`s already been almost 10 years.

Fluff wise thats pretty recent tbf

Kretualdo wrote:
But the solar auxilia isn`t like a really brand new thing introduced recently, is it? I`m not that familiar with the fluff, but the SA infantry have been available in 28 mm from forge world for years. And according to the info on the various wikis, they are supposed to be the best non-marine troops out there, so more like tempestus scions rather than imperial guard. Although for the time being SA will probably be the main component of the imperial army in LI since I doubt that GW will suddenly release another guard-like army. Especially with the mechanicum being another important part of the horus heresy.

Edit: I`ve found that the SA have been introduced in 2014 book "The Horus Heresy Book Four - Conquest", so depending on how you look at it - it`s relatively recent addition to fluff, but at the same time, it`s already been almost 10 years.

There has been an “Imperial Army” of regular humans as long as there’s been a Horus Heresy but the Solar Auxilia are a more recent extension of the fluff where whole regiments of elite troops were raised and given the best gear that could be mass-produced in relevant numbers. We have to presume there were always elite sections of the Imperial Army, by dint of sheer numbers if nothing else, and the solar auxiliaries are just a new name to be applied to them.

Solar Auxilia is just one template for a military force meant to operate in the void or other hostile environments, modelled after the way Saturnine Ordos fought in the early conquest of our solar system. It's a large minority of the whole Imperial Army, at most one fifth or fourth of it at their peak, but a minority nonetheless. They just happen to be aesthetically distinct and interestingly different from the regular 40k Guard, thus getting their focus in the 30k product branding. Most of the imperial war effort was made up of a gazillion different forces with their unique idiosyncracies, which is comparatively much less standardised and thus less easily defined with its own faction identity.

I’d very much like to see the regular Imperial Army as a list; something more formal than the Militia, with better tanks and such.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

Vorian wrote:
Do things sell out on the morning if release like they do in the rest of the world?

Are the starters, cards, terrain and bases all going to be gone today/early next week?

Similar to the rest of the world I suppose.

The independent retailers offering 10-20% discount all sell out pretty fast. The GW official store takes a lot longer to sell out.

The online stores I normally frequent all sold out within minutes, the GW store 8 hours later has sold out of the cards, the Baneblades, the Thunderhawk, the terrain, and I think that's about it, everything else still seems to be in stock, including the starter.

The independents... Gap Games and The Combat Company are probably the largest ones and they're all sold out of everything. Some of the smaller ones still have some stuff but are sold out of bits and pieces.

I fully suspect that my FLGS, that doesn't offer a discount, will have a few boxes on release day. Based on past experience with previous GW releases, it seems like they sell a handful of preorders then get a few extra boxes on the day and they remain in stock for a while, nothing like the 10's of boxes that go through the online retailers, just a handful sold to the regulars.

Maybe this is too much of a stereotype, but it seems GW in Australia these days is mostly middle aged guys with enough excess cash that dropping a few grand on GW products isn't a big deal. I don't see much in the way of a younger audience like back when I started, or if there is they don't hang around the stores or groups I do.

Man that's opposite to my experience. Warhammer site sold out of starter sets and many of the new things within about 2 hours max. My local store is also only going to get a couple of the starter boxes in the shop and that's it.

I think different countries got different measures of allocation, but generally North America sells a much higher volume than other sections of the world, but we'll see how it all pans out. I'm hoping a lot of the stuff comes back in stock. I'd still love another baneblade kit.

Are there any unboxing videos of the tiles out yet? Only seen the buildings so far.

Don’t think I’ve even seen the tiles on sale.

Wondering if we might get another pre-order announced this evening.

The road tiles are on sale now as direct-only. I'm guessing they weren't sent out to content creators for review like the other products.

have seen a few videos where people have the tile boxes on show, guessing there isn't all that much to say about them though.

picking my copy up on Saturday, as is a fried, back to another club after - taking some of my printed stuff over to move a few models around and roll a few dice

Getting a bit late in the day now to have any other release pre Xmas isnt it?

Didnt really expect there to be but just wondered if there might be with the initial launch delay leading to things more new stuff being ready now.

Well, never say never, but I don’t expect so. I’m happy to crack on with painting the starting wave models for now.

If there is another release this year it would be in stores on Dec 23rd. Apparently the new Kill Team set was listed in the xmas gifts leaflet, so perhaps that will be the final thing released for 2023.

Given that it's only three weeks since the massive opening release, I can't see anything substantial for LI coming this side of New Year. At best we might get the limited edition knight & titan bundle boxes alongside KT. More likely I think GW will wait until people are flush with xmas cash, and do another large epic-scale wave in January.

 xttz wrote:
The road tiles are on sale now as direct-only. I'm guessing they weren't sent out to content creators for review like the other products.

I got the tiles here, but haven't gotten around to do a review yet. Any specific questions? The box contains 6 plastic tiles in 3 different designs, no clips or attachment system.

Are they as thin as the Necromunda ones? Do they have moulded in magnet sockets?

They don't normally release anything on the days around christmas (Except made to order) so there should be nothing on the 23rd and 30th and because of the two week preorders I also wouldn't expect anything on the 6th January as that would need a preorder on the 23rd so around christmas.
So the next possible preorder date would be the 30th for release on the 13th January and that is likely to be Kill Team.

I also get the feeling that over the years GW has learned to balance Christmas out so that its less of a roadblock and more of rumble strip.

So we've seen releases of new things push closer and closer either side. They also clearly bundle up a week or two's worth of marketing to keep their online system going over that period.

 stahly wrote:
I got the tiles here, but haven't gotten around to do a review yet. Any specific questions? The box contains 6 plastic tiles in 3 different designs, no clips or attachment system.

How to keep them together was my main question, a bit curious about the weight as well.