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They have been reprinting cards from time to time for Necromunda, so there is hope at least.

xttz wrote:In addition to the WarCom statement about "later this month"; The TGA rumour thread has a couple of regular rumour posters claiming that the next AOS wave was pushed back a week to Feb 3rd.

AOS is really the only major release that could plausibly 'compete' with LI in the near future, so Jan 27th now being clear is a good sign.

Which is very likely the reason last weeks preorders where a little empty, Dawnbringers/FEc should have likely been in addition to the three big AoS models.

tneva82 wrote:Though even at the BEST of times myself first time I get to field any new units is 22.2...And that's assuming FLGS get their orders in time THIS time. Last time it was 3 week late...Grumble grumble GW and their bloody delivery issues. TOW is ALSO late for the local FLGS it seems...

I'm still waiting for my launch day order...

 Matrindur wrote:

tneva82 wrote:Though even at the BEST of times myself first time I get to field any new units is 22.2...And that's assuming FLGS get their orders in time THIS time. Last time it was 3 week late...Grumble grumble GW and their bloody delivery issues. TOW is ALSO late for the local FLGS it seems...

I'm still waiting for my launch day order...

Thanks for proving saying "it could always be worse"

Maybe I should mentally prepare to be waiting in june...Can't get dissapointed then eh?

The seperate release of the big boxed set content is about time... People can't always buy the big set with the Rulebook to build working armies.

It's absolute waste of paper and the books themself when everyone has it 3 times +.

I still wonder why the brought the Rulebook as a seperate SKU with Wave 1.

Some people will just buy rules to read without buying the box; or view them in a store and such. So its likely good to have it on sale on its own so that people don't complain that GW is locking the game rules to a "super expensive boxed set only".

As awful as I think the rulebook is, it's a good thing for the success of the game to have a lot of them available. And again in the absence of a free PDF download of the core rules, having a ton of them available cheaply on eBay (some of them still on 99p start bids at time of writing) can only help with access to the game

What I mostly wonder: What are their Plans for the future?

-Expansions for the Early Heresy? - Prospero, Isvaan III, Istvaan V?
-Other Armour Marks for the Early Heresy? (Mk4 with an Istvaan III Expansion?)
-Legion specific Units?
-Legion specific Formations? (Thousand Sons Demi-Company with Psyker-Captains or Sons of Horus Justicarii Company?)
-Characters as a Command Upgrade?
-Will so many Weapon options for Tanks (see Leman Russ Tank and what we know) in that Scale and without Point costs for Weapon outloads really Work?
-Will there be "non City" Terrain in the future?
-WIll there be distinctions between the Loyal Mechanicum and the Dark Mechanicum?

I don't really think we should expect GW to release alternate armor marks, at least not for a long while. Similarly, special infantry units might be far off, unless resin.

I would expect them to try and release as much stuff that's useable for as many players as possible the fastest. Which would mean "regular" legion or SA units.

Infantry with different heavy weapons seems given since rules interact with stuff like infantry with lascannos, heavy bolters etc.

Admech

Legion specific formations already refered to.

New allegiances(traitor/loyal atm)

Admech related rules ahoy.

Traitor/loyal specific units coming.

And yes i expect legion specific units. Likely resin but coming. Primarches also likely.

tneva82 wrote:
Infantry with different heavy weapons seems given since rules interact with stuff like infantry with lascannos, heavy bolters etc.

Which, IMHO, is waaaay too much detail for the scale. But well, what do I know.

 Albertorius wrote:

tneva82 wrote:
Infantry with different heavy weapons seems given since rules interact with stuff like infantry with lascannos, heavy bolters etc.

Which, IMHO, is waaaay too much detail for the scale. But well, what do I know.

Agreed, but at the same time we see that even tanks like the Leman Russ have all sorts of weapon variants for their secondary weapons. Weren't there also rules for the canopy mounted weapons?

different heavy and special weapons teams work, they don't need all of them though, really just a general purpose one (the missile launcher we have), then a better anti tank (likely laser cannon) and a better anti infantry (rotor cannon?), not a lot of point doing all when the changes will be minor

unless they are all basically "good enough" so you don't mind having several of them, unlike the poor plasma support guys

I think its a given they won't go down the "points for weapon upgrade " route, I think its also a given this basically won't work

Lets hope the Today's Preorder Announcements will be LI...

Do you think we will ever see neutral Bases without City Theme?

 Albertorius wrote:
Which, IMHO, is waaaay too much detail for the scale. But well, what do I know.

Infantry at this scale is nice as something to compare with, but I feel that collecting Knights is just right where small detail is concerned.

RazorEdge wrote:
Do you think we will ever see neutral Bases without City Theme?

Sadly, I think not.

However, there are quite a few 2nd party producers making compatible bases...

RazorEdge wrote:
Do you think we will ever see neutral Bases without City Theme?

This is the only thing I don't like about the new range, as it means an extra step to level out the bases for a different theme.

Tiny bit of green stuff just to smooth over the base, put the minis on that and then some fine sand. I'm basing all of mine in that way and TBH it doesn't add to much to the building time.

For non-city just put texture paint/flock/sand over it. People already do it and you won't see difference

Fingers crossed we get a decent wave of LI toys announced this evening.

I’m jonesing hard for more, and more variety.

Can't wait for seperate Predators...

I could certainly do with bulking out my Armoured Company. And I desperately need Landraiders and Spartans.

Not personally fussed for more Sicarans though. But that’s just me.

No mention of LI in today's article for the final preorders of January, WarCom lied

 xttz wrote:
No mention of LI in today's article for the final preorders of January, WarCom lied

"Sooner than you expect!" (TM)(R)(C)

A surprise to be sure, and not a welcome one.

OH COME ON!

I want more! Way more!

Preorder of just made to order models that could take up to 6 months to receive and of which will only be sold for 2 weeks... Sounds like a pretty weak preorder weekend in which someone screwed up yet again somewhere delaying what was supposed to be announced... Their infrastructure clearly can't handle supporting this many game systems.

A slim week indeed. Must still be reeling from those tens, maybe even dozens of Old World army boxes they had to send out

That is what just here locally was assuming everybody i know ordered 1.

Less of non-sense hyperbole tyvm

Well, if we think about it - how much of their current plastic manufacturing capacity is tied up trying to fill outstanding demand for the first wave of LI + the first wave of TOW? We're talking a couple dozen kits at least across those product ranges, before you get into things like orcs, foot knights, or the next wave of LI. Each kit is basically a separate press assuming they are running in parallel - and iirc GW has scaled up to 60-80 presses total or something like that? So like up to a quarter to a third of GWs production machines might be working on clearing a backlog unless they have just a few presses that they are rotating production through serially for these old products (which I doubt because they probably have a lot of orders they need to fill and want to clear that queue quickly).

Legions is slowly becoming the Daikatana of tabletop wargaming...