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And much better pics. Including almost certainly 28mm versions.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xd9mklal/heresy-thursday-raise-your-oily-manipulators-to-the-sky-in-praise-of-the-dark-mechanicum/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3PkDzt6p8rM-AMj5HEg5zvveGyEc5rS4hq7z8NIJr2GkW2xKch_zHIBco_aem_CdQYqxsQPbjT4V6DGA9XZQ

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xd9mklal/heresy-thursday-raise-your-oily-manipulators-to-the-sky-in-praise-of-the-dark-mechanicum/

A box of Stalker Constructs contains 30 models, eight Harpax ‘Swarmer’ Scout Hosts, and two each of the Errax, Tenebrax, and Scintillax. The Serperos ‘Overlord’ Heavy Stalkers box contains four, and what's more both boxes contain the relevant terminals for using the Errax, Tenebrax, Scintillax, and Serperos in games of Adeptus Titanicus!

Oooh, missed that bit.

That’s pretty cool.

*sigh*

So the Dark Mech can (by the looks of things) use everything the Mech have access to, plus their own special sauce on top...

...what's the point of playing loyalist Mech at this stage?

Loyalty is its own reward...

Yeah something would be nice.

Nothing being shown yet, and nothing, aren’t the same thing.

 Dysartes wrote:
*sigh*

So the Dark Mech can (by the looks of things) use everything the Mech have access to, plus their own special sauce on top...

...what's the point of playing loyalist Mech at this stage?

To stay loyal! Also, that makes sense from a fluff perspective at this point, both sides have access to the regular stuff, but the DM also break out the forbidden stuff.

You'll probably see formation differences and special rules to show a divergance. Maybe even a unit or two in the future such as Anti-Abominable Intelligence weapons

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nothing being shown yet, and nothing, aren’t the same thing.

Not telling me that they won't get everything the loyalists get reduces my excitement for the loyalists, though.

Don't get me wrong, it's great we're getting to see Dark Mech stuff, but it's the usual Chaos issue - we have to have our own corrupted units, but we should also be entitled to everything the Imperium gets, because we can corrupt them.

Get away wi' ye.

 zedmeister wrote:
You'll probably see formation differences and special rules to show a divergance. Maybe even a unit or two in the future such as Anti-Abominable Intelligence weapons

I expect Mechanicum wave 2 will come with the remaining shared units usable by either traitor or loyalist: Krios, Karacnos, probably some plastic knights. Then they'll throw in some token loyalist-only toys too. As I said previously, one possibility could be specific Ordinatus engines that didn't fall into traitor hands.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nothing being shown yet, and nothing, aren’t the same thing.

Not telling me that they won't get everything the loyalists get reduces my excitement for the loyalists, though.

Don't get me wrong, it's great we're getting to see Dark Mech stuff, but it's the usual Chaos issue - we have to have our own corrupted units, but we should also be entitled to everything the Imperium gets, because we can corrupt them.

Get away wi' ye.

Which wasn’t my claim?

Relevant wording from the article wrote: The Dark Mechanicum can also field regular Mechanicum Taghmata units, as well as Titans and Knights. Here’s a reminder of the Mechanicum Battle Group, because any excuse to show small-scale battle automata and Archmagi on Abeyants is one that our cogitators are willing to seize upon.

Ambiguous and imprecise, sure. But it doesn’t say all regular Mechanicum Taghmata units. Or “the” regular Taghmata Mechanicum unit.

So all we can say for sure is that Dark Mechanicum will be able to field more than just Dark Mechanicum units.

How much more? Remains to be seen.

 xttz wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/xd9mklal/heresy-thursday-raise-your-oily-manipulators-to-the-sky-in-praise-of-the-dark-mechanicum/

A box of Stalker Constructs contains 30 models, eight Harpax ‘Swarmer’ Scout Hosts, and two each of the Errax, Tenebrax, and Scintillax. The Serperos ‘Overlord’ Heavy Stalkers box contains four, and what's more both boxes contain the relevant terminals for using the Errax, Tenebrax, Scintillax, and Serperos in games of Adeptus Titanicus!

More support for the beautiful game is always welcome! Not sure how useful they'll be to me...but still welcome.

Guessing they'll get Knight-style terminals and rules.

For anyone curious, a poster on B&C made a scale comparison. Looks like the new stalkers are on 50mm bases.

 Dysartes wrote:
*sigh*

So the Dark Mech can (by the looks of things) use everything the Mech have access to, plus their own special sauce on top...

...what's the point of playing loyalist Mech at this stage?

Loyalists get to save money 💰. No small reward in my book.

The swarmers are standing on robot vacuum cleaners, so now I imagine them to move around randomly back and forth, turning 90 degrees bump in to each other and try another direction.

 Dysartes wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Nothing being shown yet, and nothing, aren’t the same thing.

Not telling me that they won't get everything the loyalists get reduces my excitement for the loyalists, though.

Don't get me wrong, it's great we're getting to see Dark Mech stuff, but it's the usual Chaos issue - we have to have our own corrupted units, but we should also be entitled to everything the Imperium gets, because we can corrupt them.

Get away wi' ye.

Eh? The usual chaos issue? In 40k I'd like you to show me where the chaos drop pods, whirlwinds, storm ravens, grav weaponry, stormshields, infantry level plasma cannons, attack bikes, razorbacks and so on went to please.

The usual chaos issue for 20 years was "less than imperials get... but with spikes"

Anyone got a possible ID for the barely visible schemes of infantry in the background here?



I'm drawing a blank on the silhouette, much too rounded for most stuff we know, looks like some Dark-Mech augmented/heavy infantry?
It's also possible these are the swarmers, with the 28mm version having some additional bits&bobs on the back that the 6mm ones can't adequately replicate, or it might be a variant that's not shown yet.

They are servitors.
You remember the ones that aped the aesthetic of Scyllax?
Them.

Those are those "Swarmers".

 Dysartes wrote:

Not telling me that they won't get everything the loyalists get reduces my excitement for the loyalists, though.

Don't get me wrong, it's great we're getting to see Dark Mech stuff, but it's the usual Chaos issue - we have to have our own corrupted units, but we should also be entitled to everything the Imperium gets, because we can corrupt them.

Get away wi' ye.

Then again, we have the Warlord-Sinister Titan which is a Loyalist-only titan for both AT and LI. Did the traitor Mechanicum have access to absolutely everything in the galaxy when they made their move? Some loyalist Forgeworlds might have kept their own secret projects at that time...

In the artwork there are swarmers all around the Cyclop.

Spindle drones maybe can be useful...

 Dysartes wrote:
*sigh*

So the Dark Mech can (by the looks of things) use everything the Mech have access to, plus their own special sauce on top...

...what's the point of playing loyalist Mech at this stage?

What would be the alternative? Of course the have all the Mechanicum stuff, they are Mechanicum too.

They could make the normal stuff for DM a bit more inferior, as those troops and vehicles are kind of neglected in favour of the new toys. Something new for Malagra or cross-projects between the loyalists and Custodes or SoS are also possible.

Tavis75 wrote:
Also, am I miscounting, or do some of those have 5 legs?

I just assumed 6, but you're right - 5 legs. Interesting!

 1984Phantom wrote:
In the artwork there are swarmers all around the Cyclop.

Spindle drones maybe can be useful...

I see where you’re coming from, but the Spindle Drones are closer to Knight sized in LI terms.

That were quick!

Mechanicum set and new LI book up for pre-order next weekend.

Also the Knight Battle Group and Titan Battle Group.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/j6ipvaax/sunday-preview-open-the-forges-and-march-for-the-mechanicum/

STOP!

Warhammer Community wrote:Rules for using an army entirely composed of Knight Household units can be found in Rise of the Dark Mechanicum.

CARRY ON!

Ma, our wee man is grown up!

Same article wrote: Infantry? Tanks? Pah, we don’t need that rabble where we’re going – take a straight shot through to Titan Town, where warriors are warriors, and a gun smaller than a school bus might as well be a pocket knife. The Titan Battle Group is an awesome assemblage of earthshaking military might, packing a Warlord Titan, a Reaver Titan, and two Warhound Scout Titans into one convenient box that can be deployed as an independent army with the rules found in Rise of the Dark Mechanicum.

This is gonna be expensive

God, I hope we get a big plastic Acastus some day. That model is so cool.

It’s gonna be a popular book I reckon. And if anyone in the UK is now tempted, I’ve a spare LI Rulebook and order tokens I can sell on for a reasonable price.

I already have that exact same titan config in my build box. One epub of those rules please. Playing games of Marines vs Titan maniple sound fun as all heck, specially when played like in the heaydays of Space Hulk - alternate players and play two games to see which player did better on which side. Nice!

I wonder how many points that maniple totals into..

The fall of Magma City is the same of Titanicus rulebook, with the true Legio Tempestus that drop from the sky.

I would to replace Solar Ogryns (I don't like them, too big, bulky, models) with Thallax.. I don't know if it could work fine.