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The Inquisition is coming.

Aliens, daemons, witches, mutants and heretics, take heed.

The wrath of the Emperor is upon you.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/05/01/join-the-inquisition-to-hunt-a-mutating-chaos-cult-in-a-new-kill-team-campaign-expansion/

Acolytes look pretty nice. Will be interesting to see how the back into mainstream 40k, and not just KT.

Nice to see some old Inquisitorial models that were in metal / resin making a comeback in plastic.

After talk over the years of GW phasing out the Inquisition it's also good to see some Acolytes back. While it's nice to flesh out an Inquisitorial force with Adeptus Arbites, Navy Breachers, etc... nothing beats an eclectic mix of Acolytes to bring some character.

Wow they sure are proud about how some of the models have 2 choices of arms.

I remember when you could put any arm on any model. Even swap among kits.

That was cool.

Now?

Oh your dude in a dress can have a gun/book OR knife/knife!

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Oh your dude in a dress can have a gun/book OR knife/knife!

And people call me crazy when I go on about this...

I really hope the book has close combat stats, something like:

S2, AP-, Damage -, causes target to be stunned for 1 turn

"Did you just smack me with your book?"

Wonder if we might see Imperial Agents introduced to 40K with something similar to Daemons?

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Wonder if we might see Imperial Agents introduced to 40K with something similar to Daemons?

If i'm allowed to do wild-eyed guesses for a moment, i'd say that Knights (of both denominations), Daemons, Genestealer Cults and Imperial Agents will have some sort of bespoke ally rule for the time being, and will either replace it with bespoke detachments that allows limited mixing with appropriate forces, or keep it and have bespoke detachments in addition to it once their codexes come around. Other armies like e.g. CSM might also get bespoke detachments that allow them to draw from other codexes, so that in the end you have the option to play mixed armies both as majority A or majority B forces.

Agents are getting a Codex this edition rather than just an index in a campaign supplement so it'll be interesting to see how it plays.

And regarding the new Inquisition KT models, I'd like to remind everyone that while they COULD have been designed with more options (and should have been), the retinue models from the Hunter era glory days were almost all 1 piece metal models with NO options.

This is a) better than that, and b) better than no new inquisition models.

Finally, keep in mind that dexes are almost always released with at least one model to accompany them, and often more than one. GW had to hold something back for the Agents dex.

Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

The models are weirdly static but I think the bigger problem is that there is no one way to make Acolyte models. Each Warband is tailored to their Inquisitor's needs or proclivities and that just can't be done for a 10-model unit that has to fit specific game guidelines for KT.
They're also one of the few KT units that don't have a basic alternative in the main 40k rules. The Veteran Kriegers, Kommandos, and Corsairs all have a "basic" build for 40k, and the fancier versions for KT and specialist upgrades for 40k. For Acolytes, they're already all specialists in their basic format so it doesn't work as well as previous Kill Teams.


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 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

The agents get their own faction cards, faction keyword etc. and presumably a detachment as well, which is practically a pre-codex treatment. Valrak said a Codex was coming. We have no ironclad 'They will get a codex' from official sources afaik, but it seems like they're at least intended to get one. We will probably know more shortly, when (if) they get their own faction preview.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

I remember seeing a graphic grid with all the factions listed and they were on it, but can’t find the pic.

And ninja’d with the graphic.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

I remember seeing a graphic grid with all the factions listed and they were on it, but can’t find the pic.

Look two posts up

I'm a master of stealth

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Is the Agents codex confirmed or just hinted at?

It isn't on the road map with the first 10 books.

I remember seeing a graphic grid with all the factions listed and they were on it, but can’t find the pic.

Look two posts up

I type slow. I blame being at work.

But harlequins don't deserve one...

le SIGH...

 Hellebore wrote:
But harlequins don't deserve one...

le SIGH...

I'm not sure, but i guess that their datacards will be put into the Drukhari pack, which would be pretty empty otherwise (and doubly so if it excludes out-of-print stuff).

 Gert wrote:
The models are weirdly static but I think the bigger problem is that there is no one way to make Acolyte models. Each Warband is tailored to their Inquisitor's needs or proclivities and that just can't be done for a 10-model unit that has to fit specific game guidelines for KT.
They're also one of the few KT units that don't have a basic alternative in the main 40k rules. The Veteran Kriegers, Kommandos, and Corsairs all have a "basic" build for 40k, and the fancier versions for KT and specialist upgrades for 40k. For Acolytes, they're already all specialists in their basic format so it doesn't work as well as previous Kill Teams.

Ah, but that's in 9th. I guarantee you that in 10th they will lock them to these loadouts like they have so much else. Just look at the how specific the Veteran Krieger's 40k loadout is. Part of why acolytes had their options for so long is that they *didn't* have a model.

I really do like these models, but if they're the catalyst for breaking down the customization of the Inquisiton list it'll gut what I liked about them.

 Hellebore wrote:
But harlequins don't deserve one...

Harlis were rolled back into the Eldar Codex... so no.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 Hellebore wrote:
But harlequins don't deserve one...

Harlis were rolled back into the Eldar Codex... so no.

Going by the online store right now, Dark Eldar have 25 product codes available, Aeldari have 55, of which the Harlequins are 10 - if they put the Harlequin cards + cards for the Corsairs + the Ynnari characters into the Dark Eldar cards, that would produce an almost even split (some of these codes are bundles or books, but the general point remains, cba to be more precise now). If a Drukhari codex comes around without a new plastic wave, i'm seeing them putting the Harlequin plastics there and just removing some of the OOP resin kits.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
I really hope the book has close combat stats, something like:

S2, AP-, Damage -, causes target to be stunned for 1 turn

"Did you just smack me with your book?"

No, no, no, Kid - it needs to be a 6" range ranged attack...

"Why yes, Inquisitor, I did throw the book at him..."

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:
Ah, but that's in 9th. I guarantee you that in 10th they will lock them to these loadouts like they have so much else. Just look at the how specific the Veteran Krieger's 40k loadout is. Part of why acolytes had their options for so long is that they *didn't* have a model.

I really do like these models, but if they're the catalyst for breaking down the customization of the Inquisiton list it'll gut what I liked about them.

It is entirely likely that the older profile will be removed in favour of one designed with this kit in mind yes. But at the same time, it seems that Agents are getting data cards if not a full Codex so the chances are running an "Inquisition" army means taking things like Arbites or Breachers, which sort of makes up for it in terms of weapon and unit variety.

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Hellebore wrote:
But harlequins don't deserve one...

le SIGH...

I'm not sure, but i guess that their datacards will be put into the Drukhari pack, which would be pretty empty otherwise (and doubly so if it excludes out-of-print stuff).

Ah, optimism.
I fully expect a globbed up eldar bundle that contains everything (well, everything left).
Ynnari being a 'craftworld' in the previous codex paved the way. And the KT corsairs being a 'joint' kit hammered it home.



(Yeah, ok. Maybe not... but really I'm about 66/33 about it.)

Voss wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Hellebore wrote:
But harlequins don't deserve one...

le SIGH...

I'm not sure, but i guess that their datacards will be put into the Drukhari pack, which would be pretty empty otherwise (and doubly so if it excludes out-of-print stuff).

Ah, optimism.
I fully expect a globbed up eldar bundle that contains everything (well, everything left).
Ynnari being a 'craftworld' in the previous codex paved the way. And the KT corsairs being a 'joint' kit hammered it home.

Not really optimism - we know that Aeldari and Drukhari card packs are coming, but no specific Harlequin kit (and the Ynnari are like, three dudes), so it seems wonky that Aeldari would get like five dozen cards or something and the Drukhari less than half of it... they need to put the Harlequins etc. somewhere for now, they got currently-in-production plastic kits, no way they'd go to legends for at least a year. But GW are weird around Eldar, who knows.

Tsagualsa wrote:
Not really optimism - we know that Aeldari and Drukhari card packs are coming, but no specific Harlequin kit (and the Ynnari are like, three dudes), so it seems wonky that Aeldari would get like five dozen cards or something and the Drukhari less than half of it... they need to put the Harlequins etc. somewhere for now, they got currently-in-production plastic kits, no way they'd go to legends for at least a year. But GW are weird around Eldar, who knows.

Makes me wonder how they'll handle Ynnari without the faction keywords.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:
Not really optimism - we know that Aeldari and Drukhari card packs are coming, but no specific Harlequin kit (and the Ynnari are like, three dudes), so it seems wonky that Aeldari would get like five dozen cards or something and the Drukhari less than half of it... they need to put the Harlequins etc. somewhere for now, they got currently-in-production plastic kits, no way they'd go to legends for at least a year. But GW are weird around Eldar, who knows.

Makes me wonder how they'll handle Ynnari without the faction keywords.

Delete and never mention again is probably the most likely answer. Their only dedicated kits were special characters for a campaign two editions ago, easy enough to sweep under the rug. If you built some squads yourself run them as Corsairs or whatever is probably what they'll tell you.

 Daedalus81 wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:
Not really optimism - we know that Aeldari and Drukhari card packs are coming, but no specific Harlequin kit (and the Ynnari are like, three dudes), so it seems wonky that Aeldari would get like five dozen cards or something and the Drukhari less than half of it... they need to put the Harlequins etc. somewhere for now, they got currently-in-production plastic kits, no way they'd go to legends for at least a year. But GW are weird around Eldar, who knows.

Makes me wonder how they'll handle Ynnari without the faction keywords.

Probably a special detachment.

May take units with X,Y,Z factions, have to include a ynarri character, replace all faction rules with <blah>

PenitentJake wrote:
And regarding the new Inquisition KT models, I'd like to remind everyone that while they COULD have been designed with more options (and should have been), the retinue models from the Hunter era glory days were almost all 1 piece metal models with NO options.

The lack of options on the classic metals was less of an issue, since there was a greater range of them available than the new plastics with their 'technically more options but not really'.