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Already out of stock by the time I tried to finish my order because I forgot my Warhammer account password. So that's great.

It was sold out sf GM at 9:58. I was halfway through checkout when it happened.

Why even bother releasing this box if stock is non existent.

Aeneades wrote:
It was sold out sf GM at 9:58. I was halfway through checkout when it happened.

Why even bother releasing this box if stock is non existent.

yeah same here... unreal..

Aeneades wrote:
It was sold out sf GM at 9:58. I was halfway through checkout when it happened.

Why even bother releasing this box if stock is non existent.

Yeah, this is ridiculous. Previous releases may have sold out 3rd party immediately, but I’ve always been able to order it direct.

Yeah, I had to confirm the payment through my banking app – and that was enough time for it to be gone.

I didn't even bother with 3rd party sellers and I thought be online before 10 I was ahead of the game... nuts..had in it my cart but as I went through PayPal it went out of stock..

I still have it sat there in my damn online basket.

Remember: The lesson here is not to make the same mistake trying to buy the next product.

I got mine, unfortunately only the German version ...
I had a mild panic Attack when they refused my payment method. I had to reopen my browser to get their shopping basket to work again.
Well, now I'm waiting for the mail telling me my purchase actually didn't go through :S

And the price for the kill zone upgrade is absolute madness. I would have liked some extra terminals but this really takes the cake.

I was 5 minutes late and missed the box LOL

Oh well, this just means I will only get the campaign book and the extra terrain. I do have too many models anyway, one team less in my backlog hardly matters.

I hope Ashes of Faith will not end up the same, as I feel that box seems to have gathered exceptional interest.. But with GW no doubt prioritizing 10th edition and Leviathan boxes in their current production lines, every other box release will sell out immediately until 10th is out..

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Remember: The lesson here is not to make the same mistake trying to buy the next product.

Aye... It's become a waste of time trying to buy GW stuff.
In the last 6 months I think that makes it about 12 big products I've tried to buy on release morning and they've been gone.

I think Kirby's old statement of the 'GW hobby is buying GW products', would now be 'trying to buy products'.

I was looking forward to this set. I couldn't get a copy either. I've tried searching everywhere I can think of.

Scalpers on eBay are already selling it for £200+

GW really do need to get better at working out how much stock to make for these sets.

Oh, I can see things becoming much much worse. Imagine, in the grim darkness of the near future, even scalper priced ebay offers of new products will sell out in seconds LMAO

Maybe GW is experimenting with NFT..?

The Black Adder wrote:
I was looking forward to this set. I couldn't get a copy either. I've tried searching everywhere I can think of.

Scalpers on eBay are already selling it for £200+

GW really do need to get better at working out how much stock to make for these sets.

I can’t believe that the demand on this set is particularly higher than the previous Kill Team boxes, so you’d think that they’d have a good handle on it by now.

 tauist wrote:
I was 5 minutes late and missed the box LOL

Oh well, this just means I will only get the campaign book and the extra terrain. I do have too many models anyway, one team less in my backlog hardly matters.

I hope Ashes of Faith will not end up the same, as I feel that box seems to have gathered exceptional interest.. But with GW no doubt prioritizing 10th edition and Leviathan boxes in their current production lines, every other box release will sell out immediately until 10th is out..

Given the name of the box, "I hope Ashes of Faith will not end up the same" sounds insanely funny. And yeah, it's very likely a vain hope. Not just because of 10th ed. GW's release pace and limited production capacity make discount FOMO a strategy, not an accident. There's no reason to expect that enough copies of Ashes of Faith were made to even come close to satisfying demand.

I'm speculating a bit, but consider this:
They don't want to sell this box to everyone.

The bundled box contains a significant saving over the retail value of separate parts. I only know the €prices, but
- basic terrain: 120€ for gallowdark (includes upgrades, I believe I've seen it without upgrades for 80€?
- upgrade terrain 50€ (let's ignore this and take the terrain total price)
- kill Team A: 50€
- kill Team B: 50€
- Book: 35€

So, to recreate a box of kill Team, you would buy the parts for 255€, instead of 145€. And let's be honest, most people are after the teams, sand the upgrade, which matches the retail price of the box with patience, and snag the book and extra basic terrain while they are at it.
So from GWs perspective they only want a limited amount to buy the discount bundle, and get the rest to buy the separate boxes because the are seeing what other people got and want that, too.
The wait time makes it worse as in increase the FOMO pressure..


It's all speculation of course but it makes some kind of sense to me.

 Jadenim wrote:

The Black Adder wrote:
I was looking forward to this set. I couldn't get a copy either. I've tried searching everywhere I can think of.

Scalpers on eBay are already selling it for £200+

GW really do need to get better at working out how much stock to make for these sets.

I can’t believe that the demand on this set is particularly higher than the previous Kill Team boxes, so you’d think that they’d have a good handle on it by now.

They could be concentrating their production in making stock up of Leviathan boxes though.They will want that to be a success.

Brickfix wrote:
I'm speculating a bit, but consider this:
They don't want to sell this box to everyone.

The bundled box contains a significant saving over the retail value of separate parts. I only know the €prices, but
- basic terrain: 120€ for gallowdark (includes upgrades, I believe I've seen it without upgrades for 80€?
- upgrade terrain 50€ (let's ignore this and take the terrain total price)
- kill Team A: 50€
- kill Team B: 50€
- Book: 35€

So, to recreate a box of kill Team, you would buy the parts for 255€, instead of 145€. And let's be honest, most people are after the teams, sand the upgrade, which matches the retail price of the box with patience, and snag the book and extra basic terrain while they are at it.
So from GWs perspective they only want a limited amount to buy the discount bundle, and get the rest to buy the separate boxes because the are seeing what other people got and want that, too.
The wait time makes it worse as in increase the FOMO pressure..


It's all speculation of course but it makes some kind of sense to me.

I doubt it's speculation. It's totally planned.
However, how many people are like me and won't go and buy any of the seperate parts a few months later? That could well be a lot of lost money for GW, not to mention, the seperate parts using up warehouse space.

And getting casuals into a brand using a nice big box? No hope. Only the few dedicated scalpers and lucky players get it. The public never see it even existed.

I think GW has shifted their selling strategy of KT21. The "value" boxes are produced in small quantities, guaranteeing sold out status within minutes of preorder opening. Later, the individual items from the value box are the ones GW intends to sell to the "rest of us". It's a very predatory marketing technique which draws from the most disgusting lessons learnt from social media etc. Buying the product becomes a game of winners (got my box order in!) and losers (I was late and missed out on..), so you wont really have time to make an informed decision about what you are actually buying.. since reviews etc are embargoed to release only after preorders have already sold out.. So you need to decide to either risk missing a purchase at a better value over paying more but actually knowing what you are buying..

The only exceptions to this seem to be the Season launch boxes.. Those are typically available longer than the individual season boxes, and even receive several production runs.

 silverstu wrote:

 Jadenim wrote:

The Black Adder wrote:
I was looking forward to this set. I couldn't get a copy either. I've tried searching everywhere I can think of.

Scalpers on eBay are already selling it for £200+

GW really do need to get better at working out how much stock to make for these sets.

I can’t believe that the demand on this set is particularly higher than the previous Kill Team boxes, so you’d think that they’d have a good handle on it by now.

They could be concentrating their production in making stock up of Leviathan boxes though.They will want that to be a success.

They said that, literally, in the 40k Q&A session at Warhammerfest. Leviathan is their most-produced box set of all time, by a large margin.

 Geifer wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I was 5 minutes late and missed the box LOL

Oh well, this just means I will only get the campaign book and the extra terrain. I do have too many models anyway, one team less in my backlog hardly matters.

I hope Ashes of Faith will not end up the same, as I feel that box seems to have gathered exceptional interest.. But with GW no doubt prioritizing 10th edition and Leviathan boxes in their current production lines, every other box release will sell out immediately until 10th is out..

Given the name of the box, "I hope Ashes of Faith will not end up the same" sounds insanely funny. And yeah, it's very likely a vain hope. Not just because of 10th ed. GW's release pace and limited production capacity make discount FOMO a strategy, not an accident. There's no reason to expect that enough copies of Ashes of Faith were made to even come close to satisfying demand.

Indeed.. Ashes of Faith describes the vain sense of hope a GW customer has sitting by his computer, ten minutes before the box preorders go live.. love it! They are sick lil "fethers" innit

The inquisition Boxset is something I'm less and less interested in. The narrative part sounds interesting, but ... Honestly I don't know anyone who would spend some time playing it with me and I'm sure there will be plenty in the aftermarket as most people will want it for the inquisition miniatures and the cheaper cultists.
And this is were the box' appeal for me ends, as I don't really want either SoS nor the Scions.
And the fact that I can't build half the operatives sounds really cheap to me, with such a massive box, how hard would it be to double up on the henchmen sprue? Even if from a power level perspective, you aren't supposed to use all operatives?

The saving on all parts might be really good, but I'm not too convinced it's worth it if I'm not interested in all parts. Might get the inquisition separately once the become available and use custom rules to recreate the narrative material.

Interesting that they've not posted anything on social media channels, presumably don't want to receive negative comments.

 Olthannon wrote:
Interesting that they've not posted anything on social media channels, presumably don't want to receive negative comments.

Isn't basically all of the UK shut down over the weekend due to the Coronation? It is today, and monday is an additional holiday as far as i know, right?

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
Interesting that they've not posted anything on social media channels, presumably don't want to receive negative comments.

Isn't basically all of the UK shut down over the weekend due to the Coronation? It is today, and monday is an additional holiday as far as i know, right?

True but people still be working. And that's what scheduled posts are for.

 Olthannon wrote:

Tsagualsa wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:
Interesting that they've not posted anything on social media channels, presumably don't want to receive negative comments.

Isn't basically all of the UK shut down over the weekend due to the Coronation? It is today, and monday is an additional holiday as far as i know, right?

True but people still be working. And that's what scheduled posts are for.

A scheduled post can't respond to stuff though; their pre-order announcement on social media go up in the evening usually, 6pm local time mostly. At which time stuff is already sold out

 stahly wrote:
Check it out here: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/05/review-kill-team-gallowfall/

Thanks for the closer look.

I'll be doing what I can to get a few of that unique terrain sprue.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

 stahly wrote:
Check it out here: https://taleofpainters.com/2023/05/review-kill-team-gallowfall/

Thanks for the closer look.

I'll be doing what I can to get a few of that unique terrain sprue.

Looks like the Beastmen are set up to be released as a 40k kit with double the main sprue and no or another upgrade sprue, right?

Tsagualsa wrote:
Looks like the Beastmen are set up to be released as a 40k kit with double the main sprue and no or another upgrade sprue, right?

We'll get the KT box which has the special sprue, and then likely a separate (and marginally cheaper) 40k release that doesn't have the sprue. There doesn't seem to be anything consistent about the KT releases as to whether a completely new unit gets everything on the sprue, or a separate upgrade sprue.

Kasrkin, Eldar Corsairs and Kommandos: Everything on the sprue. But not Beastmen, or Traitor Guard, or Veteran Guardsmen.

(I'm intentionally leaving out things that are more meant for KT than 40k, like Arbites and Boarding Patrols)

It's really interesting that the Arbites are represented with 3 different 40k Datasheets, and have everything on the sprue, while some other new kill Teams have a basic sprue, an upgrade sprue and no representation of the upgrades in 40k (or unknown in case is the beastmen). I understand that some upgrades don't matter in the scope of 40k, like some of the breachers. Worst example is that some Arbites operatives equipment differ in kill Team and in 40k (and a third variant is in the building instructions ... That has no rule representation at all). It all seems to depend on how "cool" the units are from the rules teams personal perspective, at least that is my only explanation.