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 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some say Elysians, some say Scions https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/10/critical-transmission-incoming-from-the-chalnath-expanse/

It's Scions. Also, looks like the super weapon is in the teaser too.

 cole1114 wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some say Elysians, some say Scions https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/10/critical-transmission-incoming-from-the-chalnath-expanse/

It's Scions. Also, looks like the super weapon is in the teaser too.

Yeah, looks like you are right but until we see their models I will pretend that Eysians are coming

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 cole1114 wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Some say Elysians, some say Scions https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/10/critical-transmission-incoming-from-the-chalnath-expanse/

It's Scions. Also, looks like the super weapon is in the teaser too.

Yeah, looks like you are right but until we see their models I will pretend that Eysians are coming

A dual build Elysian/Scions?

 Fayric wrote:

A dual build Elysian/Scions?

Scions have more ornate torso armour but who knows (as much as it is unlikely)?

Yea, there's no way Elite troops in the Imperium would wear the same stuff.

Just look at how different each Space Marine Chapter is.......

 TalonZahn wrote:
Yea, there's no way Elite troops in the Imperium would wear the same stuff.

Just look at how different each Space Marine Chapter is.......

SM Chapters are roughly on the same level to each other. Scions are way more elite than Elysians (or any IG regiment) which are just one of the many IG regiments (even though they are highly specialised one but so are Catachans etc.).

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Yea, there's no way Elite troops in the Imperium would wear the same stuff.

Just look at how different each Space Marine Chapter is.......

SM Chapters are roughly on the same level to each other. Scions are way more elite than Elysians (or any IG regiment) which are just one of the many IG regiments (even though they are highly specialised one but so are Catachans etc.).

Silly Rabbit, that's not the point, STC's are for everyone.

That picture could be for a wrist scanner on everything from a Necromunda Slaver to a Chapter Master. They're all over Marine minis, with or without, the little flip top cover.

On the other hand, Scions have never been shown with jet/jump packs, and neither have any other IG. Unless you go back to Rogue Trader, and those looked like Marine style packs.

the jump pack resembles the description that "Guns of Tanith" used, which was based on Rogue Trader Guard Jumptroop packs. both of which were rather more capable than the grav-chutes of the Elysian's.

armor wise does look like Scions more than Elysians (who's armor was closer to the Cadian standard), though it is possible it'll end up being Kasrkin, or possible some new regiment.

 TalonZahn wrote:


Silly Rabbit, that's not the point, STC's are for everyone.

That picture could be for a wrist scanner on everything from a Necromunda Slaver to a Chapter Master. They're all over Marine minis, with or without, the little flip top cover.

Actually some STC are just for the elite of the Imperium. Also what I meant is that the double kit is unlikely because they look quite different with Scions having more ornate armour so the kit would require quite a few separate parts (still not impossible when we see Zoant/Venomthropes kit for nids).

Looks like Valrak's rumours are right again.

 TalonZahn wrote:

Silly Rabbit, that's not the point, STC's are for everyone.

That picture could be for a wrist scanner on everything from a Necromunda Slaver to a Chapter Master. They're all over Marine minis, with or without, the little flip top cover.

Dude, this is fatal levels of copium.

 TalonZahn wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 TalonZahn wrote:
Yea, there's no way Elite troops in the Imperium would wear the same stuff.

Just look at how different each Space Marine Chapter is.......

SM Chapters are roughly on the same level to each other. Scions are way more elite than Elysians (or any IG regiment) which are just one of the many IG regiments (even though they are highly specialised one but so are Catachans etc.).

They're all over Marine minis, with or without, the little flip top cover.

Wrist datapads are. Not this exact datapad design however, while it does appear on Scions exactly like this.

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
Looks like Valrak's rumours are right again.

Yeah. I don't get the discussion. Did his rumour say Scions or Elysians? Then it's that.

Elysians don't fly. They drop.

Didn’t we get a warcom short story that specifically mentioned they’re scions?


And Shadowsuns story also implies Vespids so I dunno how anyone could doubt the Valrak rumors

Valrak's accuracy is frankly scary. Someone did a thread on here showing he had a nearly 100% rating.

 Altruizine wrote:

 jojo_monkey_boy wrote:
Looks like Valrak's rumours are right again.

Yeah. I don't get the discussion. Did his rumour say Scions or Elysians? Then it's that.

he said jump pack guard guys. don't know if he ever specified more than that, and he tends to be vague as to specifics like that (sometimes it seems like it doesn't know the difference lol)

 cole1114 wrote:
Valrak's accuracy is frankly scary. Someone did a thread on here showing he had a nearly 100% rating.

at this point, we really have no reason to doubt him

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

he said jump pack guard guys. don't know if he ever specified more than that, and he tends to be vague as to specifics like that (sometimes it seems like it doesn't know the difference lol)

He explicitly and repeatedly said they were Scions. He was pretty disappointed they weren't Elysians.

I would love them to be Elysians but those are very obviously Scions.

 The Phazer wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

he said jump pack guard guys. don't know if he ever specified more than that, and he tends to be vague as to specifics like that (sometimes it seems like it doesn't know the difference lol)

He explicitly and repeatedly said they were Scions. He was pretty disappointed they weren't Elysians.

I would love them to be Elysians but those are very obviously Scions.

oh then i totally missed that lol

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 The Phazer wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

he said jump pack guard guys. don't know if he ever specified more than that, and he tends to be vague as to specifics like that (sometimes it seems like it doesn't know the difference lol)

He explicitly and repeatedly said they were Scions. He was pretty disappointed they weren't Elysians.

I would love them to be Elysians but those are very obviously Scions.

oh then i totally missed that lol

I think the earliest rumours he had described that pack as being like the ones the Elysians had. But without knowing the leak and it being anything from printing to the models from the new Kill Team edition trailer...if you knew nothing and kind of googled it or described it to a friend it's not hard to see how you would end up at Elysian over Scion.

I do kind of hope if they are Scions they are new sculpts and not just an upgrade sprue. I like the aesthetic of them quite a bit, but their proportions have not aged well.

Given how static the current models are, I can’t imagine an upgrade kit alone would give the appearance of jump troops, unless it comes with all new legs

So I'm going on a long business trip in October and I managed to get about 5 associates into kill team. Do we think this will be released around that time?

I have a couple of the box sets and one kill team. Do we think this is going to completely change everything?

 Jammer87 wrote:
So I'm going on a long business trip in October and I managed to get about 5 associates into kill team. Do we think this will be released around that time?

I have a couple of the box sets and one kill team. Do we think this is going to completely change everything?

This is expected to be a new edition but not sure if they will completely change the rules or just do an updated .5 edition

For release date, kill team boxes tend to release roughly every 3 months and the last one was in June so September/October is likely and if this turns out to be a new edition GW is incentivized to release it soon after fully revealing it since people would want to know what changes with a new edition before buying more

Clearly, it's the Phantine Skyborne.

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Clearly, it's the Phantine Skyborne.

Killteam seems an odd place to debut a plastic Thunderbolt

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Clearly, it's the Phantine Skyborne.

Killteam seems an odd place to debut a plastic Thunderbolt

Crashed one as terrain.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Clearly, it's the Phantine Skyborne.

Killteam seems an odd place to debut a plastic Thunderbolt

Crashed one as terrain.

I'd take 2

Crashed flyer is a major reason for me ordering the 4th ed starter reprint last year (I think it was 4th - Marines vs. Tyranids).

It doesn't have to be crashed. A map with parked aircraft could also work well: https://callofduty.fandom.com/wiki/Carrier_(map)