Lemondish wrote:
H.B.M.C. wrote:
If they maybe tested these rules, then perhaps this sort of thing wouldn't happen. Or if they'd put an ounce more thought into the detachment system, and made them actually impact force composition rather than just strats and keywords, then you wouldn't get "Stealth" armies full of fething Aggressors and Centurions.
em_en_oh_pee wrote:
GW can't have missed this, right? Maybe they just didn't realize it's strength? Also, is it so pervasive that it even needs to be toned down? Very curious how they're gonna handle it.
Their only issue appears to be that their playtesting lacks the type of player that will seek out degenerate strategies to win at all costs.
They still see it as a game that you play to tell a story. A perfect example is when they saw what happened with doctrines when they introduced 'em. They expected folks would play like they envisioned - moving through them as you tell the story of a battle. Sure, they've paid a lot of attention to the tournament scene, but it almost seems begrudgingly so. I think they're coming around, but they really need to pick up some power gamers in their testing. Maybe even exclusively power gamers. Bring in folks that would look at a set of rules they're told are supposed to represent stealth and have them come up with a list like this without turning their nose up at it.
It all really comes down to the folks who are designing this game aren't actually playing it like, well,
this.
To be fair, most of us don't play it at the same level as the boys from Art of War.
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Rogzor87 wrote:Anyone able to guide me to an updated/current
BA tactics thread or site?
I have the Leviathan box set and and some other
BA oriented models trying to find advice/help on it for list building. What units/models/kits to avoid. Would most likely go as Vanguard Spearhead for the Detachment I go with.
What I own (1670 points)
Apothecary Biologis - Leviathan
NoS
Librarian in Terminator Armour - Leviathan
NoS
Lieutenant with combi-weapon - Leviathan
NoS
Captain in Terminator Armour - Leviathan
NoS
Tycho Captain/
DC - Assembled
Chief Librarian Mephiston -
NiB
Commander Dante -
NiB
Judiciar - Assembled/Primed
Judiciar -
NoS
Librarian in Phobos Armour -
NoS
Ballistus Dreadnought - Leviathan
NoS
Infernus Squad - Leviathan
NoS
Sternguard Veteran Squad - Leviathan
NoS
Terminator Squad - Leviathan
NoS
Terminator Squad -
NiB
Blood Angels Dreadnought(furioso/
DC/Libby) -
NiB
There's little in this game as awesome as the libby dreadnought, but the units you've got aren't the ones he works well with. You'd want hard hitting short and medium range firepower if you're using a libby dread. Like aggressors, hellblasters, or eradicators. Extra ditto if you want to use vanguard spearhead's guerilla tactics stratagem, which only affects infantry.
Among the models you have, I'd start by prepping the terminators and their captain. Field them with blade driven deep.
10,000+ points
3000+ points 
