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chaos0xomega wrote:
Its not a conversion rate. I don't know why we need to have this out every time, but GW is folding in logistics costs to this. It costs a non-zero sum of money for GW to load pallets of boxes into a container, which then gets trucked to a port and loaded on a ship, transited across an ocean, unloaded and tracked to a warehouse, unpacked, loaded onto more trucks and then sent out to retailers, etc. GW isn't going to eat that cost, it gets passed along to the customer. GW does not have a unified global pricing scheme like other companies do where the pricing is basically just a straight conversion of a common base price. They have regionalized their prices in order to maximize their margins.

The absolute definition of splitting hairs.

Yes, the 33% markup is not based off of straight currency conversion. Duh. That does not make it any less of a 33% markup.

So, for whatever damned reason, Australian prices cannot be revealed until the items go up for pre-order.

One store has broken street date for some reason, and the Battleforces this year are up from AUD$350 to between AUD$370 and AUD$380.

That seems like an odd restriction to put on sellers.
$20 up from last year seems mild. But then that might just be the stockholm syndrome talking... Not sure i'll end up getting one even if I can snag one at 25% off. Money's a bit tight all of a sudden and my aspirations of Fantasy are very much a backburner project.

They're up for sale in Oz now. Interesting that some sell out in different places faster than others.

Some still have the Tyranid one, whereas others still have the Not-Squat one. Most don't have the World Eater one.

What... the... heck...

Kutami.de has a queue, with 1000 people ahead of me and a notification saying World Eaters and StD aren't available.

The stock has sold out at record speed everywhere. Wayland were last getting their listings up and their site was doing a few glitches.


I wonder if them being sold almost a few weeks earlier than normal (it feels like) if GW have spread out production and supply. So we get one big run now and then a re-supply later in the year. I seem to recall they've done that a few times.

But yes stock has sold out everywhere super super super fast.

Heck I was still partly dithering over Vampire or Tyranids but it seems Tyranids are the more popular right now and were just sold out everywhere so Vampires it is!

5 minutes later, Votann and Nids are sold out as well with 800+ people in the queue.

I don't need anything but it's fascinating.

I figured Nids would be popular this year. Votann is a bit of a surprise, but a very welcome one.


I think the Ossiarch set will be one that will linger if just because they've such a limited range that its basically "more of the same" for them. Though its interesting that such a small army that hasn't had a second wave of models has commanded quite a few big discount boxed sets. Which suggests that they must be selling pretty well for GW to devote these resources to them.


Of the 40K sets Firestorm games have - all are now sold out

I don't know much about Votann but it looked like a bunch of basic dudes and one of each vehicle? That sounds like a perfect start to a collection for non meta chasers.

Sold out on all 3rd party (+ various glitches), got kicked of the GW site and had to redo the queue, and finally got the World Eaters box removed from my cart while I was paying. Still got the Tyranids one, but at full price from GW. How was your morning everyone ?

Well, nowhere offering any discount on WE killed that for me, feel very targeted

Wayland took my order for the Nid box but we'll see if it goes through, if it doesn't it's not the end of the world.

Yeah a lot of these are great "starting my new army" or "want to expand" sets. I suspect that's why the Tyranid has a Hive Tyrant in it whilst the rest is all new kits so super popular with Tyranids right now.

Vampire set is a great start or expansion point with wolves and skeletons for battleline; bats and cavalry and then a huge Vengorian lord model.


I don't think there's a "dud" set in these. Also right now Ossiarch and Vampire are the only two left on Firestorm

 Overread wrote:
I wonder if them being sold almost a few weeks earlier than normal (it feels like) if GW have spread out production and supply. So we get one big run now and then a re-supply later in the year. I seem to recall they've done that a few times.

It doesn't just feel like it. Instead of a late November to early December pre-order, they put up the battleforces for release on Black Friday this year. Presumably that's the financially sound choice. GW has been missing this window for so long and has earned its share of criticism for it. I expect there are a lot more people with the requisite interest that still have the necessary cash in their pockets so early in the pre-Christmas period. Naturally the increased interest conflicts with GW's production capacity, but who cares about such niggles.

As for having a later restock, I think might have done that last year? I seem to remember the Battle Sisters box going out of stock early on and coming back a little later. Whether that's another round of stock or recalled/cancelled orders, I don't know. But as always with deals that are too good to pass up, would you want to take any chances on a possible second round?

CorwinB wrote:
Sold out on all 3rd party (+ various glitches), got kicked of the GW site and had to redo the queue, and finally got the World Eaters box removed from my cart while I was paying. Still got the Tyranids one, but at full price from GW. How was your morning everyone ?

I was torn between Tyranids and Soulblight - both wanted, both having very cool stuff in them. In the end Tyranid selling out everywhere super super fast meant I jumped on Soulblight.

Still kind of crossing my fingers that we see a "restock/second wave" at the start of December cause if there is it might tempt me to grab another


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 Geifer wrote:

As for having a later restock, I think might have done that last year? I seem to remember the Battle Sisters box going out of stock early on and coming back a little later. Whether that's another round of stock or recalled/cancelled orders, I don't know. But as always with deals that are too good to pass up, would you want to take any chances on a possible second round?

Oh I didn't take chances, I was pretty much expecting to buy only one box today budget wise. I'm just crossing fingers for a second early December second wave to sneak a second box in

Wayland has still most of the 40k and AoS boxes: https://t.ly/D7b2d

Firestorm Games also has the Cadian box and a few of the AoS boxes left: https://t.ly/FIqFf

Very disappointed at Element Games and Dark Sphere. I've checked their websites several times this week in case of any order restrictions or reservation lists as they've had in the past, and there was no mention of any issues. Then as soon as 10am rolls around, DS doesn't list the boxes at all on the website while EG puts up a notice saying that they're only available in store.

Then the Wayland site is a glitchy mess for 15 minutes before finally listing the WE box as no longer available.

Eeesh. I was on the fence about getting the Nid one but it would have been nice to have the opportunity to buy it.

The Vampire one is kinda eh to me as it's 75% the same as the previous one.

Just noticed Wayland imposed a "1 per customer" system. I think that's new from them, not something I recall seeing before (unless it was enabled but not declared on the page in the past).

 xttz wrote:
Very disappointed at Element Games and Dark Sphere. I've checked their websites several times this week in case of any order restrictions or reservation lists as they've had in the past, and there was no mention of any issues. Then as soon as 10am rolls around, DS doesn't list the boxes at all on the website while EG puts up a notice saying that they're only available in store.

Then the Wayland site is a glitchy mess for 15 minutes before finally listing the WE box as no longer available.

I think darksphere sold them all on the RoI.

The last one that I bought, the AoS Tzzentch one with the greater daemon, is still untouched in its box. They are great for starting a new army, but it has stopped me succumbing to temptation this year.

Some stores over here were doing one of each per customer, so you couldn't get multiples of the same thing.

Surprised how quickly the Votann one went.

Most places still have all the AoS ones though.

Kutami shut down the queue, with 20-30ish boxes each remaining of Ossiarchs, Smurfs and Vampires.

I just find it really sad that not one of the Christmas boxes will get into the presents pile of a child to get them started on the road of hobbying.
No Mums or Dads who aren't already GW collectors have a chance of buying these for their kids. All these boxes are, are cheaper deals for existing customers who know about GW's fomo and are lucky enough to buy one in the first 30 seconds of sales.
Limited Black Friday sale boxes, yes. Christmas Boxes, not at all.

yeah, its always felt kind of skeevy that they market and hype these as a christmas gift for newcomers and existing players alike, etc. but actually getting one is damned near impossible unless you're a serious pro and know what you're doing.

BUT, from a business perspective it makes sense to do it that way. GW doesnt want to train its consumers to minimize their purchases all year waiting for the annual holiday discount box by making it too accessible and too available. They don't want everyone to be able to get one of these, there needs to be risk associated with it so that their customers understand theres no guarantees involved with them and they are not a reliable source of getting the stuff you want so they dont wait for it.

Hm, did they not actually reprint them last year after the initial sold out?

i dont believe so. IIRC there were some shipping and logistics issues and they didnt have all the inventory available when preorders went live, and then over the next 2 months or so more copies started trickling out as they received shipments at the various distribution hubs, etc.

Damn. I was hoping to grab the Votann box but I was far too late (2 hours apparently)

 Overread wrote:
I figured Nids would be popular this year. Votann is a bit of a surprise, but a very welcome one.


I think the Ossiarch set will be one that will linger if just because they've such a limited range that its basically "more of the same" for them. Though its interesting that such a small army that hasn't had a second wave of models has commanded quite a few big discount boxed sets. Which suggests that they must be selling pretty well for GW to devote these resources to them.


Of the 40K sets Firestorm games have - all are now sold out

Well the Ossiarch one has just gone from the main site, before the Seraphon surprisingly.