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The reveal is literally Belial, the Companions, and the upgrade frame...which Lewis had mentioned already during the last stream.
It's an updated iconic character, a completely new unit, a quite large upgrade set, an army box, and the codex reveal. Alongside a video for it.
I wonder just what you consider a big reveal if somehow that isn't much to you.
I would have considered an Old World army box as a "huge reveal"...even if they had already been leaked.
I would have considered an announcement of Solar Auxilia a "huge reveal".
I would have considered a reveal of something Kroot as "huge".
I would have considered a reveal of either of the Order/Death Warbands for Warcry to be "huge".
There's a ton of things I would have considered "huge".
I do not consider an army set, featuring a single new unit, a resculpted character and an upgrade set mentioned before on stream, and a unit we already had seen(the Deathwing Knights) along with an army book with recycled artwork that is known to be the next codex coming to be "huge".
As a reminder, this is what the Sunday Preview said:
We’re off to hang our stockings and finish all of our last-minute preparations, but you won’t be without articles to read on Warhammer Community in the gap between Christmas and New Year. Tune in tomorrow for a huge reveal, followed by something special on Boxing Day. Throughout the week, there will be teases for what’s coming in 2024, as well as the result of this year’s Miniature of the Year vote.
YMMV, but "army set for a space marine faction that's the next codex to come" isn't "huge reveal" material to me.
I also don't really consider it "huge" (maybe they switched this with the Old World boxsets since DA leaked that morning? But then again the TK box also leaked a while ago)
But if you consider a singe Warcry warband "huge" then you can't say a resculped character, a completely new unit, a great upgrade sprue and an army set (with not only a new unit but also that resculpted character and two of the new upgrade sprues) isn't "huge". Just because they aren't interesting to you doesn't mean three new kits and an army set aren't objectively more than a single warcry warband.
As I said personally I would have expected the TOW boxsets when they talked about huge (since that is realistically the only other reveal we should be expecting) but I wouldn't say its outride wrong for them to call this huge.
Exaggerated? yes but that should be expected at this point. Wrong? not really.
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I also don't really consider it "huge" (maybe they switched this with the Old World boxsets since DA leaked that morning? But then again the TK box also leaked a while ago)
But if you consider a singe Warcry warband "huge" then you can't say a resculped character, a completely new unit, a great upgrade sprue and an army set (with not only a new unit but also that resculpted character and two of the new upgrade sprues) isn't "huge". Just because they aren't interesting to you doesn't mean three new kits and an army set aren't objectively more than a single warcry warband.
Considering that we're months behind on Warcry? Yeah. It's "huge" to get the reveal of the Death and Order warbands. They were slated for winter 2023.
You lot can keep pretending that it's something super amazing, but the only thing genuinely a surprise is the Companions. The upgrade sprue, army set, and Belial all were mentioned by the new intern on the championship stream. We've had a roadmap with DA coming at the start of 2024 since before that.
As I said personally I would have expected the TOW boxsets when they talked about huge (since that is realistically the only other reveal we should be expecting) but I wouldn't say its outride wrong for them to call this huge.
Exaggerated? yes but that should be expected at this point. Wrong? not really.
It's marines. They were getting an army set, especially since they didn't do Terminators in the Christmas box.
Showing an Ork would have been "huge". Showing something from the Custodes, Tau, or CSM would have been "huge".
This just felt like a continuation of what the dumb championship stream was.
Your mistake was believing GW when they said it was huge.
They've overhyped gaking preview streams where they showed off a few paltry models and pretended like it was the greatest revelation since Revelations.
Kanluwen wrote: Considering that we're months behind on Warcry? Yeah. It's "huge" to get the reveal of the Death and Order warbands. They were slated for winter 2023.
They aren't slated for winter 2023, just winter which is from December until March so we are perfectly in line of the roadmap? No idea where we are behind on that one.
Kill Team on the other hand is behind since we are just getting Salvations which was originally on Autumn on the roadmap.
The AoS roadmap is also slightly behind since that one actually said "2023 only" and we haven't gotten Dawnbringers 4 yet.
Those two are the only ones who seem to have actual delays currently.
I also don't really consider it "huge" (maybe they switched this with the Old World boxsets since DA leaked that morning? But then again the TK box also leaked a while ago)
But if you consider a singe Warcry warband "huge" then you can't say a resculped character, a completely new unit, a great upgrade sprue and an army set (with not only a new unit but also that resculpted character and two of the new upgrade sprues) isn't "huge". Just because they aren't interesting to you doesn't mean three new kits and an army set aren't objectively more than a single warcry warband.
Considering that we're months behind on Warcry? Yeah. It's "huge" to get the reveal of the Death and Order warbands. They were slated for winter 2023.
You lot can keep pretending that it's something super amazing, but the only thing genuinely a surprise is the Companions. The upgrade sprue, army set, and Belial all were mentioned by the new intern on the championship stream. We've had a roadmap with DA coming at the start of 2024 since before that.
As I said personally I would have expected the TOW boxsets when they talked about huge (since that is realistically the only other reveal we should be expecting) but I wouldn't say its outride wrong for them to call this huge.
Exaggerated? yes but that should be expected at this point. Wrong? not really.
It's marines. They were getting an army set, especially since they didn't do Terminators in the Christmas box.
Showing an Ork would have been "huge". Showing something from the Custodes, Tau, or CSM would have been "huge".
This just felt like a continuation of what the dumb championship stream was.
You seem to be using "huge" when you mean "surprise" then getting mad that the reveal didn't match your expectations.
The only thing worse than marketing hyperbole is the even-more-hyperbolic discussions on here about it afterwards.
Stormonu wrote: For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules"
Yeah, people arguing vociferously about the bigness or otherwise of the latest reveal is tedious,
The Companions look very good, although DA robes always look a bit like dressing gowns. Since most of the armour is covered, they would be easy to convert into Heresy-era Companions.
Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
First thought Votann but with them not on the roadmap probably something else? That spear kinda looks like a Custodes guardian spear and they are next after orks so maybe that? Also has a gun Grip on the spear so very likely a guardian spear.
Kroot
Orks?
Custodes, Orks and Tau are also the next three codexes on the roadmap so fits perfectly. Custodes and Orks probably just a single mini with Tau getting multiple kroot and an army set
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Overread wrote: Are Kroot about the last thing in current 40K that hasn't seen any update in a big way? Even Squats are back so yeah time for the Year of the Kroot!
Depends what you mean by "update in a big way". Yes, Kroot are still using the same plastic kit when they had when they were released in 3rd Ed.
Then again, Eldar are still using the only Warp Spider minis that have ever been released, and have vehicle kits older than most of the people who post here.
Overread wrote: Are Kroot about the last thing in current 40K that hasn't seen any update in a big way? Even Squats are back so yeah time for the Year of the Kroot!
Depends what you mean by "update in a big way". Yes, Kroot are still using the same plastic kit when they had when they were released in 3rd Ed.
Then again, Eldar are still using the only Warp Spider minis that have ever been released, and have vehicle kits older than most of the people who post here.
True but Eldar have seen some big updates as of late.
Though yes there are Eldar models still older than the Kroot and Tau
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote: This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote: You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling.
- No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something...
He could lost it in 
