Warhammer 40k news and rumours. More Space Wolves revealed pg. 185

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**JWBS**

Those appear to be ETB Hellblasters and that's quite sickening to me in this specific case. Some ETB I like, some I'm ambivalent, here it's a huge downgrade imo.

**Matrindur**

JWBS wrote:
Those appear to be ETB Hellblasters and that's quite sickening to me in this specific case. Some ETB I like, some I'm ambivalent, here it's a huge downgrade imo.

There are no ETB Hellblasters. There is only the normal kit and the Dark Imperium Hellblasters which came on the same sprue as other stuff so wouldn't be in here.
Also you can easily see the one in the middle has the exact pose as the rearmost right one from the normal kit:

Spoiler:

**chaos0xomega**

I got myself 3 copies. Don't care what the consensus is, Terminators armies are cool.

Shadow Walker wrote:

That's such a fantastic way to start the video XD

**JohnnyHell**

alphaecho wrote:

Nice to see lots of Deathwing Assault boxes on eBay for a hefty mark up.

For non UK, the UK press recently had articles reporting that eBay would be required to hand over details of sales to our Revenue and Customs and that those selling over £1000 per annum 'could' be facing a tax bill.

There is small print. If you are selling second half stuff on for less than was originally paid would be unlikely to be chased.

I wonder, however, if private sellers, maybe scalpers, who are buying product then immediately shifting it on for a profit could find themselves in the taxman ctosshairs if there is a definite pattern to their eBay activity.

I wouldn't cry if serial scalper received a hefty tax bill.

They’re already liable. Buying and selling goods for profit is taxable. HRMC are just starting to crack down, is all.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

But it’s whether VAT is due.

It’s taxable as income, yes. But VAT rules are weird. It’s something I’m barely acquainted with thanks to hobby activities I might be able to turn into second income, but there is a threshold before you become liable for tax.

Scalper Reselling however? The VAT has already been paid, because it’s charged at the point of sale. And I’ve absolutely no idea, and can’t be bothered to research, whether HMRC can double dip where the goods are resold As New and unopened.

**MajorWesJanson**

I would imagine that if resellers are charging more than the original price of the box that there is some sort of "value" being added to justify that markup

**Lord Zarkov**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
But it’s whether VAT is due.

It’s taxable as income, yes. But VAT rules are weird. It’s something I’m barely acquainted with thanks to hobby activities I might be able to turn into second income, but there is a threshold before you become liable for tax.

Scalper Reselling however? The VAT has already been paid, because it’s charged at the point of sale. And I’ve absolutely no idea, and can’t be bothered to research, whether HMRC can double dip where the goods are resold As New and unopened.

VAT wise you have to charge VAT at every step in the chain, but you can deduct the VAT you paid your supplier from the VAT you owe. Essentially this means you only pay additional VAT on your margin.

So if the scalper paid GW £120 (£100 + £20 VAT) for a box and charged £240 for it they’d owe HMRC £20 (£40 - £20 already paid). Obviously, the greater margin they put over the GW price, the more VAT they owe.

There’s also a minimum annual threshold for owing VAT (called ‘de minimus’, which is why if you only sell a few things on eBay you don’t owe VAT). It’s not huge, but the smaller scalpers could still be below it.

**Overread**

I suspect this change will just accelerate what's already happened for the secondhand market which is more and more happening through FB trade groups rather than Ebay

**kodos**

Different countries having different laws and makes a difference if you are a private seller or business

like in my country I pay taxes for the yearly income and any sales I make would need to be added to all my other earnings for the amount of tax I need to pay

but for private sales the tax free amount of additional income is 700€ per year, so if all my ebay profits stay below that I pay no additional taxes

if my yearly income is 30k from the regular job and 5k from ebay sales, I have to pay taxes for 34,3k

**GaroRobe**

How do the “generic” versions of the kroot team work in 40k? Like are they just “veteran” kroot or do they have different weapons?

**BertBert**

GaroRobe wrote:
How do the “generic” versions of the kroot team work in 40k? Like are they just “veteran” kroot or do they have different weapons?

They can swap their standard rifle for the scattergun variant.

**phandaal**

chaos0xomega wrote:
I got myself 3 copies. Don't care what the consensus is, Terminators armies are cool.

Weren't you just saying that you bought like 15 boxes of Tomb Kings as well? Guess when your hobby is buying cardboard boxes with Games Workshop artwork on them, your value proposition is different than the rest of us.

Hopefully whoever you sell these to on the secondary market appreciates the discount, and gets as much enjoyment out of building and painting them as you got from buying the box.

**chaos0xomega**

Some of you guys seem overly obsessed and/or incredibly butthurt about how I spend my hobby budget and what I choose to build and play with. I hate to disappoint you but the only things getting sold are 2 extra Codex supplements and 2 extra asmodais, I already have a paint scheme and conversions in mind for the rest.

And yes, I bought 14 boxes of tomb kings stuff which i am still waiting for delivery on, all of which were individual kits and not the big box. It works out to around 2300 pts. Don't really see what the problem is with buying most of a 2500 pt army in one go - you sound petty and jealous, and nothing else.

**Prometheum5**

It's just such a bizarre flex that you never fail to include in your posts, I can totally see why it bothers people. I buy far more stuff than I can get through in a reasonable amount of time, but I don't feel the need to drop my purchasing numbers constantly.

**BertBert**

Lack of impulse control is not something people tend to be jelous about.

**chaos0xomega**

Forgive me for being excited?

I usually only really say I got something to indicate positivity for something, ie "putting my money where my mouth is" kind of thing. In this case, everyone is saying dark angels got done dirty and the new box sucks or whatever, and that may be true - I wouldn't know because I didn't collect them previously or ever pay much attention to them before now - but the new sculpts are cool as are Terminators with plasma cannons, so feth it I'm starting my own Unforgiven chapter 1st company.

**tneva82**

Excitement and positivity isn't allowed here

(also one wonders if he mistook the 14 boxes as 14 big boxes? That WOULD be kind of crazy ;D And would make wonder how on earth you would get chance to buy those since they got sold out. Doubt my local FLGS would have sold me 14 if I asked for 14...)

**Danny76**

Well I read it as a So excited I bought everything I need, good stuff and can’t wait to get to it, kind of thing.
But maybe I missed something..

**chaos0xomega**

tneva82 wrote:
Excitement and positivity isn't allowed here

(also one wonders if he mistook the 14 boxes as 14 big boxes? That WOULD be kind of crazy ;D And would make wonder how on earth you would get chance to buy those since they got sold out. Doubt my local FLGS would have sold me 14 if I asked for 14...)

Certainly feels that way (in regards to both statements).

**Overread**

chaos0xomega wrote:
tneva82 wrote:
Excitement and positivity isn't allowed here

(also one wonders if he mistook the 14 boxes as 14 big boxes? That WOULD be kind of crazy ;D And would make wonder how on earth you would get chance to buy those since they got sold out. Doubt my local FLGS would have sold me 14 if I asked for 14...)

Certainly feels that way (in regards to both statements).

I'm sorry, but you are only allowed to be excited within the official Excitement Guidelines as stipulated on your agreement to enter The Hobby.

Positivity is also rationed on a per month basis and if you exceed your allocation then you will be fined for each breach until you reach a new month.

You will find all these details on "Me and THE HOBBY" pages 42 and 69.

Note if you want to cancel your involvement with "The Hobby" then we require you to return your membership fee; pay the cancellation processing fee and fill in forms 1-20 in Triplicate and get them signed by your local MP And GP before we can allow you to leave.

**chaos0xomega**

I knew I should've read the agreement befire signing

**Dysartes**

chaos0xomega wrote:
I knew I should've read the agreement befire signing

Who reads the EULA, though?

**kodos**

everyone who saw that SouthPark Episode

**Dudeface**

Supposed dataslate and points leaks, full set to drop Thursday according to this:

https://www.reddit.com/r/WarhammerCompetitive/s/Tnqe05IlM4

new Dataslate leaks

Nec:
Hypercrypt 3" Deep-strike can't be used on C'tan
all C'tans +10pts
DE:
Grotesques -5pts per model
Wracks -2pts per model
Haemonculus -10pts
Urien Rakarth -10pts
Talos -15pts
CSM:
Chaos Lord +40pts
Chosen +4pts per model
Forgefiend +20pts
Accursed Cultists are unable to take Chaos Marks
You are now unable to put a unit with mark X into a transport with mark Y
(for example you can no logner put Undivided unit into a Nurgle Rhino but Nurgle unit in a Nurgle rhino is fine)
Custodes:
Allarus can be now taken as a unit of 1
All characters -10pts
DG:
Plague Marines +2pts per model
AdMech:
Doctrina imperatives now also affect no-mans land
Aeldari:
Yncarne now unable to charge after doing his teleport
Leagues of Votann:
Sagitaurs +10pts
Chaos Daemons:
Nurglings +10pts
All big boys(LoC, Bloodthirster etc.) -10pts
IK:
Reversal of the last Bondsman nerf.
units with 0OC can't make any sort of Action
all Rhinos +10pts

**tneva82**

The 0oc no action would be nice in solving overabundance of action monkeys...but should have been in from get-go. Now units that had use for that have very little use at all.

We won't see 3x1 ripper swarm in every tyranid list...but do we see them at all?

**Tyel**

Not sure rehashing the points from the Reddit post is worthwhile - but I'd say letting Ad Mech doctrines work on no-mans land would be quite a buff.

But not changing the DE special rules at all would hurt me.

**Dudeface**

tneva82 wrote:
The 0oc no action would be nice in solving overabundance of action monkeys...but should have been in from get-go. Now units that had use for that have very little use at all.

We won't see 3x1 ripper swarm in every tyranid list...but do we see them at all?

I think it effectively leaves Nids out of competitive play as-is iirc? A lot of their ability to play and score comes from 0oc units in their various guises.

**StudentOfEtherium**

Dudeface wrote:
Supposed dataslate and points leaks, full set to drop Thursday according to this:

new Dataslate leaks

Custodes:
Allarus can be now taken as a unit of 1
All characters -10pts

running solo allarus seems cute, but considering where the rest of the army is right now, i don't know if this is going to remotely help. points cuts for bikes or giving us a real detachment rule would be much prefered (but i guess our codex is coming soon, so they might want to do something so drastic at this point)

**xttz**

Dudeface wrote:
Supposed dataslate and points leaks

This post has now been taken down. I've heard (but can't confirm) that these changes were taken from a discussion about possible changes in a private league Discord, then posted to Reddit "for a laugh".

**Miguelsan**

Though there is a high chance that you are correct I wish the nerf to Imperial Knights is walked back. No overwatch, changes to towering, and no spread of bondsman's abilities was an overnerf.

M.