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Cathay however was never really happening

Whitefang over on TGA (Best leaker we have, never been wrong) said this in answer to another post a week ago:

Post: after the Kislev/Cathay cancellation
Whitefang: Nah it's just they aren't able to release them at the moment.

So while this would fit what this 4Chan rumour says about about Kislev with how they are just delayed it directly contradicts the same about Cathay, which as far as I understand, Whitefang also says are just delayed but are coming.

So we can pretty much forget about these already

The very first line about ending resin production is laughable when they are still happily releasing new resin miniatures for Horus Heresy and The Old World.

It's also pretty laughable in the part where it says that games that are constantly sold out are underperforming. Like, can you perform any better than selling out?

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's also pretty laughable in the part where it says that games that are constantly sold out are underperforming. Like, can you perform any better than selling out?

I can't entirely rule out the idea that GW's warehouses could somehow contain negative quantities of LI models

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's also pretty laughable in the part where it says that games that are constantly sold out are underperforming. Like, can you perform any better than selling out?

When you have logistical issues...

GW has logistical issues.

So it's possible.

 xttz wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:
It's also pretty laughable in the part where it says that games that are constantly sold out are underperforming. Like, can you perform any better than selling out?

I can't entirely rule out the idea that GW's warehouses could somehow contain negative quantities of LI models

they are sorted there under Epic: Horus Heresy and not selling at all while the robot reports that there are no LI items in the warehouse

Dudeface wrote:
Spied this over on B&C which got some chatter, usual 4chan trash post salt applies, but if it is true then it worries me:

Spoiler:

Lots of educated guesses and made up BS. Don't take it seriously. GW leaking their own products is a myth, it's against anything their marketing believes in.

Legions Imperialis….”massively underperformed”. Yet stock consistently sells out. And thus far, barely anything has been released.

A game that’s incredibly new (not even out six months, if memory more or less serves?) and no bugger can keep in stock? “MaSsIvElY uNdErPeRfOrMeD”

TOW also apparently underperformed. Yet..

Warhammer Community article, 18 March 2024 wrote: Danny: The game has been incredibly well received, and it’s great that there’s so much passion – the scope of the project has grown, so please bear with us.

JTY: We aim to do this forever. We have planned books for the next [redacted] years – we have all these miniatures planned and clear ideas of what we’re working towards, but we have to get there! We’re reintroducing the world and the setting over the course of nine Arcane Journals. Once that’s done… who knows?

You know, as someone whose profession involves a fair amount of “spot the liar”, you’d think I’d appreciate it when they make it this easy.

But I don’t. It’s just insulting folk’s intelligence.

also oh no Tomb Kings underperforming as the big bad,

but also further down Tomb Kings outsell Bretonians (which is clearly tosh from what stores can't keep in stock even when GW is supplying them)

Why do people rebother posting this trash or giving any oxygen to discussing it?

Just let it rot.

Honestly, I can see all of that being true. Even if its not "reality" the corporate "perceived reality" can read things how they want. Sold out and "underperforming" can coexist if the gains don't outweight the risks in someone's mind.

 LunarSol wrote:
Honestly, I can see all of that being true. Even if its not "reality" the corporate "perceived reality" can read things how they want. Sold out and "underperforming" can coexist if the gains don't outweight the risks in someone's mind.

This was my stance, I imagined it was made up but some of the undertones and the like rang true of a potential future. Sent it to my buddies on WhatsApp and immediately one of them thought it all sounded great, so who knows any more.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

Warhammer Community article, 18 March 2024 wrote: Danny: The game has been incredibly well received, and it’s great that there’s so much passion – the scope of the project has grown, so please bear with us.

JTY: We aim to do this forever. We have planned books for the next [redacted] years – we have all these miniatures planned and clear ideas of what we’re working towards, but we have to get there! We’re reintroducing the world and the setting over the course of nine Arcane Journals. Once that’s done… who knows?

You know, as someone whose profession involves a fair amount of “spot the liar”, you’d think I’d appreciate it when they make it this easy.
But I don’t. It’s just insulting folk’s intelligence.

and here I am not sure of you mean the 4chan text or the GW marketing article

as using an advertising quote to proof that a leak is wrong..... (in that case I believe neither)

Thing is, there’s laws about publishing false information when you’re a business.

If GW made out The Old World is a hit, and is expanding capacity? That statement can influence a would-be investor. So if it’s wrong, that’s, y’know. Illegal.

But who to believe. Some random liar on 4chan, the land of make believe, or GW, who don’t exist in a consequence free environment.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Thing is, there’s laws about publishing false information when you’re a business.

If GW made out The Old World is a hit, and is expanding capacity? That statement can influence a would-be investor. So if it’s wrong, that’s, y’know. Illegal.

But who to believe. Some random liar on 4chan, the land of make believe, or GW, who don’t exist in a consequence free environment.

I think there's a bit of a gap here. Publishing say false financial information via RNS is a crime.
Marketing going "our products are great and everything is going really well" is just marketing. You don't have to say "our product sucks and no one is buying it", even if it is, for fear of misleading shareholders.

On the whole GW seem to be selling just about everything they can make. Logistics issues might be preventing them making even more money - but I can't really see why they'd be disappointed.

I said already on the last page that the 4chan post is made up, but it looks like people like to talk about made up stuff

yet for those quotes "product is well received" says nothing about performance or anything you can call GW out if you made an investment based on it
"technically correct" as anything that comes via WarCom

the product was well received, means nothing as it just says that there are less people complaining about it than there are people liking it and it can still underperform or not selling at all

if one takes marketing speech as anything else or base an investment on it because of what they think it means and not what is written there, it is their fault and not an illegal act by the company

 kodos wrote:
I said already on the last page that the 4chan post is made up, but it looks like people like to talk about made up stuff

yet for those quotes "product is well received" says nothing about performance or anything you can call GW out if you made an investment based on it
"technically correct" as anything that comes via WarCom

the product was well received, means nothing as it just says that there are less people complaining about it than there are people liking it and it can still underperform or not selling at all

if one takes marketing speech as anything else or base an investment on it because of what they think it means and not what is written there, it is their fault and not an illegal act by the company

Out of curiosity do you have a link to the post where they say it was made up?

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/04/10/cry-waaagh-and-let-slip-the-orks-of-war-with-new-codex-crusade-rules/

The original post
https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/92423016/gw-leak

Blocked here so cannot see if is still there

 kodos wrote:
The original post
https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/92423016/gw-leak

Blocked here so cannot see if is still there

Yes, it is there.

Tyel wrote:

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Thing is, there’s laws about publishing false information when you’re a business.

If GW made out The Old World is a hit, and is expanding capacity? That statement can influence a would-be investor. So if it’s wrong, that’s, y’know. Illegal.

But who to believe. Some random liar on 4chan, the land of make believe, or GW, who don’t exist in a consequence free environment.

I think there's a bit of a gap here. Publishing say false financial information via RNS is a crime.
Marketing going "our products are great and everything is going really well" is just marketing. You don't have to say "our product sucks and no one is buying it", even if it is, for fear of misleading shareholders.

On the whole GW seem to be selling just about everything they can make. Logistics issues might be preventing them making even more money - but I can't really see why they'd be disappointed.

Key phrase for me is “the scope of the project has grown”. That’s demonstrating a clear commitment, typically a sign that things are going well sales wise.

You can check it's veracity from the first line. GW phasing out resins to comply with UK recycling policy.

The closest policies I can find are the phasing out of non-recycleable single use plastics (miniatures aren't single use), and the phasing out of non- recyclable packaging (miniatures aren't packaging).
Unless there's another policy I don't know, it implies the posts are rubbish.

(Also, GW are still regularly releasing resin miniatures, so y'know.)

I assumed that by 'resin', we were supposed to understand 'Finecast'.
Not that that relates to the recycling issue...

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 kodos wrote:
The original post
https://boards.4chan.org/tg/thread/92423016/gw-leak

Blocked here so cannot see if is still there

Yes, it is there.

I sadly wasted my eyeballs on the thread but there isn't anyone taking ownership and admitting it's fake.

From Ork's codex

Leggy wrote:
You can check it's veracity from the first line. GW phasing out resins to comply with UK recycling policy.

The closest policies I can find are the phasing out of non-recycleable single use plastics (miniatures aren't single use), and the phasing out of non- recyclable packaging (miniatures aren't packaging).
Unless there's another policy I don't know, it implies the posts are rubbish.

(Also, GW are still regularly releasing resin miniatures, so y'know.)

Yeah, to comply with the policy GW strictly only needs to get rid of the shrink-wrap on the boxes and the little baggies full of bases. Also the stupid clamshell character packs should go too, and frankly good riddance to them.

I was kinda-of hoping (praying) that GW would loosen up on its "no models, no rules" policy by releasing MORE clampacks. Basically do for all the factions what they do for special -flavor marine armies and have upgrade sprues with various weapons and wargear. That way you don't sergeants with the loan option of " do you want a CCW or chainsword?"

 cuda1179 wrote:
I was kinda-of hoping (praying) that GW would loosen up on its "no models, no rules" policy by releasing MORE clampacks. Basically do for all the factions what they do for special -flavor marine armies and have upgrade sprues with various weapons and wargear. That way you don't sergeants with the loan option of " do you want a CCW or chainsword?"

By clam packs I mean specifically the obnoxious sealed plastic container that can’t be opened without tools and is instantly discarded, with reference to plastic waste laws. Not the idea of small sprues for characters and accessories.

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I was kinda-of hoping (praying) that GW would loosen up on its "no models, no rules" policy by releasing MORE clampacks. Basically do for all the factions what they do for special -flavor marine armies and have upgrade sprues with various weapons and wargear. That way you don't sergeants with the loan option of " do you want a CCW or chainsword?"

By clam packs I mean specifically the obnoxious sealed plastic container that can’t be opened without tools and is instantly discarded, with reference to plastic waste laws. Not the idea of small sprues for characters and accessories.

That's how those upgrades are packed though. I guess that they could pack them differently.

 cuda1179 wrote:

 Mr_Rose wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
I was kinda-of hoping (praying) that GW would loosen up on its "no models, no rules" policy by releasing MORE clampacks. Basically do for all the factions what they do for special -flavor marine armies and have upgrade sprues with various weapons and wargear. That way you don't sergeants with the loan option of " do you want a CCW or chainsword?"

By clam packs I mean specifically the obnoxious sealed plastic container that can’t be opened without tools and is instantly discarded, with reference to plastic waste laws. Not the idea of small sprues for characters and accessories.

That's how those upgrades are packed though. I guess that they could pack them differently.

The Black Templar ones (and I assume the new Dark Angel upgrades) are boxed because they have too many sprues for GWs regular clampacks, same with the Horus Heresy upgrades.