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 LunarSol wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
when you say power armour, does that include the veterans? or are they finally getting their firstborn cull?

It sounds like its only the veterans. No more Primaris Kill Teams.

At least we have some Mark VIII represented in a game so I am happy they are still there.

Good riddance to bad design, if true.

Before the inevitable swarming:
I say this because the various "Kill Teams" were just them having reproduced 7th Edition's Formations without actually having done what made Formations a bit more interesting to play with. It also (finally) addresses the issues that the constant tweaking of Deathwatch was having on the actual Marine side of things.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
when you say power armour, does that include the veterans? or are they finally getting their firstborn cull?

It sounds like its only the veterans. No more Primaris Kill Teams.

At least we have some Mark VIII represented in a game so I am happy they are still there.

A bit surprised Cassius isn't still in the list but they're probably not worth the hassle.


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 Kanluwen wrote:
Good riddance to bad design, if true.

Before the inevitable swarming:
I say this because the various "Kill Teams" were just them having reproduced 7th Edition's Formations without actually having done what made Formations a bit more interesting to play with. It also (finally) addresses the issues that the constant tweaking of Deathwatch was having on the actual Marine side of things.

I just want them to rip the band aid off so I can decide what I'm doing with my army.

 LunarSol wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
when you say power armour, does that include the veterans? or are they finally getting their firstborn cull?

It sounds like its only the veterans. No more Primaris Kill Teams.

funniest option

Like I said, as long as the Deathwatch guys can ally into a normal marine force I'll be okay with it.

I'll have more than a few extra Terminators with cyclone launches though. That's going to be a bummer.

I'm hoping the Deathwatch Veterans are battleline.

Have to look through my current massive Deathwatch force and see what marine army it will fit best into.
GW have always tried to shoehorn Primaris into deathwatch and it hasn’t worked.

 bullyboy wrote:
Have to look through my current massive Deathwatch force and see what marine army it will fit best into.
GW have always tried to shoehorn Primaris into deathwatch and it hasn’t worked.

Yeah, I tried for a non-standard color layout. My DW are sandy brown with dark green shoulder pads and white trim. Honestly, I think they would fit in best with Vanilla marines, possibly Space wolves so you can get some non-standard wargear layouts back. However, I also have a number of Sword and Shield Terminators, so I might be shoehorned into Dark Angels.

 Matrindur wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
There's also the LI Titan and Knight battlefirces that were previewed around Christmas that still haven't released

They've been previewed at the end of August last year

Only 1.5 months more and it will be one whole year without any sight of them

Were they? I thought it was around Christmas but I'll take your word for it

 cuda1179 wrote:
Like I said, as long as the Deathwatch guys can ally into a normal marine force I'll be okay with it.

I'll have more than a few extra Terminators with cyclone launches though. That's going to be a bummer.

I'm hoping the Deathwatch Veterans are battleline.

apparently they agree, if the primaris kill teams aren't making it in

I've been thinking for a while I'd like to paint up some silver armed Sword Brethren, Sanguinary, Deathwings, etc and make my Deathwatch a true omni-chapter.

First they change the units in the index so you have to do some conversion to be able to play them then they scrape them wholy leaving you with an army you can no longer play with half as regular space marines anymore...

"Oop's here's that boarding action thingy we forgot about"

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/17/paint-a-space-hulk-red-with-brutal-close-range-brawls-in-the-new-boarding-actions-supplement/

I keep seeing those little gridded maps all the time, they've showed them, for this, and every White Dwarf always seems to have them in.
Can anyone tell me how big the small squares are on these grids? In mm/cm or inches?

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
I keep seeing those little gridded maps all the time, they've showed them, for this, and every White Dwarf always seems to have them in.
Can anyone tell me how big the small squares are on these grids? In mm/cm or inches?

97mm square, with a 12mm border

With the amount of boarding action terrain I have from the past Kill team season, I'm quite happy that it's not a one and done thing. Motivates me to finish painting it

Dudeface wrote:
"Oop's here's that boarding action thingy we forgot about"

Bit unfair - it's had plenty of WD support since launch, with some pretty entertaining scenario variations.

Personally excited for this, as I primarily play Boarding Actions at the moment.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 cuda1179 wrote:
Like I said, as long as the Deathwatch guys can ally into a normal marine force I'll be okay with it.

I'll have more than a few extra Terminators with cyclone launches though. That's going to be a bummer.

I'm hoping the Deathwatch Veterans are battleline.

apparently they agree, if the primaris kill teams aren't making it in

Which genuinely surprised me on at least one count - the Phobos Kill team from Kill Team is pretty much exactly what a Deathwatch version would be.
I was half expecting a pseudo tactical squad with Intercessors joined by Helblasters or Infernus members, perhaps even a Desolator.

Though in the first case, you do kind of have the options in the box for the standard squad (minus Reivers) given the shared Infiltrator/Incurser set.

rumor wise, what's left after the whf dwarf boxset and the necromunda secundus? Somewhere I read gencon wouldn't have warhammer previous.

Largely (if not exclusively) from Valrak:

Rest of the Year
New Chalnath Kill Team season with Drop Scions vs Vespid. (Chalnath diaries series)
[Redacted] Codex which seems like it must be Imperial Agents/Deathwatch. (Publisher leaks)
Blood Angel supplement
Imperial Guard, possibly army box first, maybe codex. (a lot of very obvious rumour engines)

Start of 2025
Craftworld Eldar, possibly one of the first books out and in between the release of an IG army box and the full codex.
Thousand Sons including new Heresy style robots and incorporating Tzeentchian Daemons (hinted at in WD)
Space wolves supplement.
Grey Knights? (Sighted missing from Warhammer world, usually for photography).
Emperor's Children codex
Some rumours of a World Eater and Votann second wave.

there was also a rumor a few pages back about the chaos books getting split into four different books for each god (which could tie into the ksons rumor)

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
there was also a rumor a few pages back about the chaos books getting split into four different books for each god (which could tie into the ksons rumor)

Just to clarify the rumour is that the Chaos Daemons book is getting split into the god specific books which that TS rumour refers to with "incorporating Tzeentch Daemons".
Also wouldn't be too surprising as AoS does the same and it works pretty well over there

I can't see how the studio Grey Knights being absent from Warhammer World is evidence of anything much, given that surely any new codex would be squatting basically the entire model line bar Crowe.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I can't see how the studio Grey Knights being absent from Warhammer World is evidence of anything much, given that surely any new codex would be squatting basically the entire model line bar Crowe.

Why would their models be squatted unless they are getting a refresh which, according to rumours, isn't happing this time?

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I can't see how the studio Grey Knights being absent from Warhammer World is evidence of anything much, given that surely any new codex would be squatting basically the entire model line bar Crowe.

They could also be using them for a different set of photography, like a history of the Grey Knights piece or as enemies in a KSons book gallery.

Grey Knights only have 3 unique kits right now, plus a few characters.
Strike Squad getting rescaled to match Crowe would be valuable.
GKTs are amazing as is, maybe a slight rescale but otherwise could get away with being left as is.
Dreadknight getting a redesign to make the pilot fit in better and parts to make the Grandmaster version would be nice.
Crowe is current. Voldus is a great kit, but scales to current terminators.
Draigo is resin and would likely see an upgrade, maybe as a more diorama character like Helbrecht

Dreadnought, Land Raider, Terminator Chaplain and Terminator Librarian are all straight borrowed from SM and could use proper GK versions.

They could do sort of a Deathguard- keep the currenty GK Terminator kit as a troop and integrate some of the paladin options into the unit- standard and apothecary, and upgrade paladins into a unit of 2-6 with a box of 3 slightly fancier and bulkier models with parts to upgrade into a librarian, chaplain, or brother captain/grandmaster.

 Tastyfish wrote:
Largely (if not exclusively) from Valrak:

Rest of the Year
New Chalnath Kill Team season with Drop Scions vs Vespid. (Chalnath diaries series)
[Redacted] Codex which seems like it must be Imperial Agents/Deathwatch. (Publisher leaks)
Blood Angel supplement
Imperial Guard, possibly army box first, maybe codex. (a lot of very obvious rumour engines)

Start of 2025
Thousand Sons including new Heresy style robots and incorporating Tzeentchian Daemons (hinted at in WD)
Space wolves supplement.
Grey Knights? (Sighted missing from Warhammer world, usually for photography).
Emperor's Children codex
Some rumours of a World Eater and Votann second wave.

He added on the live stream last night that the agents codex is with influencers now.

Only three Codices for the rest of the year? Considering how frequently they've been double-tapping them, that seems a little light.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Only three Codices for the rest of the year? Considering how frequently they've been double-tapping them, that seems a little light.

Probable because AoS just launched a new editoin so might well take a lions share of new rule releases for a bit.

 Overread wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Only three Codices for the rest of the year? Considering how frequently they've been double-tapping them, that seems a little light.

Probable because AoS just launched a new editoin so might well take a lions share of new rule releases for a bit.

Yeah, after 40k's edition launch last year AoS also only released two battletomes and two campaign books until the end of the year. Granted those where also the last two battletomes that we were still waiting on while 40k is still fully in the codex cycle but AoS releases still slowed down. But since 40k is the bigger game I would still expect 4-5 more codices this year instead of just three, especially if one is just a supplement and with Imperial Agents not being a big faction too

 Matrindur wrote:

 Overread wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Only three Codices for the rest of the year? Considering how frequently they've been double-tapping them, that seems a little light.

Probable because AoS just launched a new editoin so might well take a lions share of new rule releases for a bit.

Yeah, after 40k's edition launch last year AoS also only released two battletomes and two campaign books until the end of the year. Granted those where also the last two battletomes that we were still waiting on while 40k is still fully in the codex cycle but AoS releases still slowed down. But since 40k is the bigger game I would still expect 4-5 more codices this year instead of just three, especially if one is just a supplement and with Imperial Agents not being a big faction too

Also, only getting one Chaos codex in a year and half seems an odd choice.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:
Only three Codices for the rest of the year? Considering how frequently they've been double-tapping them, that seems a little light.

I suspect that this is an incomplete list which just contains major things leaked to Valrak so far. 40k is GW's primary product, and codexes have pretty consistently averaged a new book per month up until the AOS relaunch.

It was pretty common for leaks in previous editions to skip over the smaller releases with just a single character model with a codex. We're likely missing some of those; for example Death Guard or Dark Eldar could plausibly get that treatment before the end of 2024.