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 Shadow Walker wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i imagine it would be sniper-heavy, but and i suppose the ogryns could balance that

Exactly. Small uns for shooty things and big uns for smashy things.

What if it's the other way round 😂

Bubbatron wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i imagine it would be sniper-heavy, but and i suppose the ogryns could balance that

Exactly. Small uns for shooty things and big uns for smashy things.

What if it's the other way round 😂

Ogryns with accurate shooting? Not even Cawl could do that .

I haven't played Kill Team, but do they need a leader/commander/general model? If so, would one expect a human (either Guard officer or Commissar) to lead these otherwise unreliable abhumans?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

Bubbatron wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i imagine it would be sniper-heavy, but and i suppose the ogryns could balance that

Exactly. Small uns for shooty things and big uns for smashy things.

What if it's the other way round 😂

Ogryns with accurate shooting? Not even Cawl could do that .

Who said anything about accuracy? They still get fully-automatic ripper guns shooting shotgun shells the size of soda cans? That’s some good dakka!

And ratlings are just as happy to shiv you unnoticed as snipe from across the table. Gotta keep an eye on the little mutant sneaks.

 Nevelon wrote:

And ratlings are just as happy to shiv you unnoticed as snipe from across the table.

Yep, Ratlings are almost Grot level nasty. Never trust them, especially in the kitchen

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I haven't played Kill Team, but do they need a leader/commander/general model? If so, would one expect a human (either Guard officer or Commissar) to lead these otherwise unreliable abhumans?

They generally don't, beyond a sergeant or something, with exceptions.

But there are Ogryn sergeants.

 The Phazer wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I haven't played Kill Team, but do they need a leader/commander/general model? If so, would one expect a human (either Guard officer or Commissar) to lead these otherwise unreliable abhumans?

They generally don't, beyond a sergeant or something, with exceptions.

But there are Ogryn sergeants.

Yeah, called Bone'eads.

 The Phazer wrote:

 KidCthulhu wrote:
I haven't played Kill Team, but do they need a leader/commander/general model? If so, would one expect a human (either Guard officer or Commissar) to lead these otherwise unreliable abhumans?

They generally don't, beyond a sergeant or something, with exceptions.

But there are Ogryn sergeants.

True, but the assumption is also that the Kill Teams are specialist commandos which Ogryns aren't. It would make sense if there was a proper commander figure to lead the unit.

 Olthannon wrote:

t. It would make sense if there was a proper commander figure to lead the unit.

Maybe it wil be abhuman team led by a commissar?

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:

t. It would make sense if there was a proper commander figure to lead the unit.

Maybe it wil be abhuman team led by a commissar?

That's what I was thinking because it always seemed to me that the Bone'ead's role to was to make sure the big lads do what the little lad commands them to do.

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:

t. It would make sense if there was a proper commander figure to lead the unit.

Maybe it wil be abhuman team led by a commissar?

I hope so because that would be quite thematic.

If that rumour is true, pricing for that team is going to be odd. 3 Ogryns are 40 quid right now. How many would you get in the KT box? I can't see you being able to field more than 2. Add the ratlings on top of that plus a potential commissar - it's going to have a high price point or it's a massive saving.

 Olthannon wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:

 Olthannon wrote:

t. It would make sense if there was a proper commander figure to lead the unit.

Maybe it wil be abhuman team led by a commissar?

I hope so because that would be quite thematic.

If that rumour is true, pricing for that team is going to be odd. 3 Ogryns are 40 quid right now. How many would you get in the KT box? I can't see you being able to field more than 2. Add the ratlings on top of that plus a potential commissar - it's going to have a high price point or it's a massive saving.

have three ogryns, but give them weapons which are completely incompatible with the existing datasheet, or something like that

No no no, it'll be an 'Abhuman Squad' that incorporates Ogryns and Ratlings into one unit. After averaging out the stats and weapons for each, it'll be a T3 unit with 4+/4+ guns.

I kinda hope this will give us (in 40k) options for Ogryn, like flak armor and ripper, not tw ccw's

Wonder if the armored orks are actually tank bustas?

That's one of the last resin ork kits

And the Abhumans could be a unit of three ogryns and a unit of five ratlings, with both replacing the current kits (assuming ratling snipers still exist)

 GaroRobe wrote:
Wonder if the armored orks are actually tank bustas?

That's one of the last resin ork kits

And the Abhumans could be a unit of three ogryns and a unit of five ratlings, with both replacing the current kits (assuming ratling snipers still exist)

My guess is that it's the current Ogryn sprue plus a new ratling sprue.

 Polonius wrote:

 GaroRobe wrote:
Wonder if the armored orks are actually tank bustas?

That's one of the last resin ork kits

And the Abhumans could be a unit of three ogryns and a unit of five ratlings, with both replacing the current kits (assuming ratling snipers still exist)

My guess is that it's the current Ogryn sprue plus a new ratling sprue.

Yeah, the last Kill Team boxed set included the Broodcoven. The Brood Brothers squad will presumably be released on its own, without the Broodcoven, at a price comparable to other Kill Teams. They could do the same with a new squad of Ratlings plus the existing Ogryns as half of a boxed set, while still releasing the Ratlings on their own later on.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
No no no, it'll be an 'Abhuman Squad' that incorporates Ogryns and Ratlings into one unit. After averaging out the stats and weapons for each, it'll be a T3 unit with 4+/4+ guns.

but that's not how 10th edition works this edition? different weapons have different strengths and stats, and the Gretchin unit shows how it works to have a unit with varying toughnesses, so a combined unit would still, in fact. the chaos guard commissar and ogryn bodyguard also have varying stats. this strikes me as an ignorant comment that reflects a lack of experience with the edition and how it handles things like this

If it's 'abhumans' it could be something completely off the wall. Ogryn or two, couple of ratlings and then a small core of imperial beastmen led by a commissar.

Bit of a longshot but Valrak's rumour was that it contained Ogryns and ratlings.

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I think I like them, but I'd have much preferred Elysians.

So this is an additional sprue for the existing Scions with new legs and backpacks? Or is this an entirely new kit?

Based on the tech on the right forearms, I'd say a new kit.

Looking closer, the front armor around the neck is different too.

FYI there is a chance these will disappear, they are directly linked from Warcom.

See, I'm on a private forum, and we direct link embed all the images from warcomm when there are new releases. I was looking back at the Skaven ones, and saw that two of the images had changed to something that is very much not Skaven (they used to be stormvermin). Best I can tell they changed two of the Stormvermin pictures in the little gallery thingy on Warcomm and re-uploaded them, but then these guys got the same file name for whatever reason, so us hotlinking the images made them pop up.

very solid unit. 40k jump packs often miss me, but these ones are good

Gotthammer wrote:
FYI there is a chance these will disappear, they are directly linked from Warcom.

See, I'm on a private forum, and we direct link embed all the images from warcomm when there are new releases. I was looking back at the Skaven ones, and saw that two of the images had changed to something that is very much not Skaven (they used to be stormvermin). Best I can tell they changed two of the Stormvermin pictures in the little gallery thingy on Warcomm and re-uploaded them, but then these guys got the same file name for whatever reason, so us hotlinking the images made them pop up.

Crazy scoop man, cheers.

Vastly better than the current kit.

Yes sir, I like it.

Design wise they bridge the gap between Solar Auxilia and modern Imperial Guard.

Interested to note only one has the classic hotshot cables, the other three seem to have larger power packs. Whether that’s just a design flair or perhaps a sign of variant weapons time will tell.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Vastly better than the current kit.

I've been saying for a while now that the previous kit was showing its age, but now that we've seen these new models, the different is starke. these new models are just damn good

Where are the vespids?