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 cole1114 wrote:
Has anything ever come out about WHY they made an imperial agents codex, or how it's doing saleswise?

For what it's worth the Agents battleforce boxes are still fairly easily available in several UK independent retailers some time after release. It doesn't seem to be too popular.

Having said that there are smaller quantities of other battleforces still around too, such as Sisters or Custodes. Could be a factor in this sudden release slowdown.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Shoulda been 'Militarum Astra', or 'Militarum Imperialis', to fit with the Latin-ish naming conventions of 40k. After all, it's the Adeptus Astates, not the Astartes Adeptus.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Shoulda been 'Militarum Astra', or 'Militarum Imperialis', to fit with the Latin-ish naming conventions of 40k. After all, it's the Adeptus Astates, not the Astartes Adeptus.

Whats your point again?

Kreig focus would be a good time to redo the basilisk/medusa artillery tank.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Kreig focus would be a good time to redo the basilisk/medusa artillery tank.

While I agree the Basilisk need redoing, they've just done the SolarAux Basilisk / Medusa so it's an interesting one. I wonder if they'll bring back Bombards & Griffons, or something like their old Epic tanks (Ragnarok, etc.).

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Silly names don't 'age-out' of being silly.

 Fayric wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Shoulda been 'Militarum Astra', or 'Militarum Imperialis', to fit with the Latin-ish naming conventions of 40k. After all, it's the Adeptus Astates, not the Astartes Adeptus.

Whats your point again?

I don't have one. Just my personal gripe over at least one way they coulda made the AM name (gah, choosing another name even would have meant its acronym doesn't clash with Adeptus Mechanicus!) less annoying. I'd still be no Imperial Guard - direct, and to the point - but it'd be better.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if we got a death riders kit - MAYBE an alternate head or two on a different sprue if they do something like the cadian upgrade sprue... but that'd be odd, perhaps, given that the Kill Team DK sprue is ALREADY a regular unit + an upgrade sprue.

beast_gts wrote:

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Kreig focus would be a good time to redo the basilisk/medusa artillery tank.

While I agree the Basilisk need redoing, they've just done the SolarAux Basilisk / Medusa so it's an interesting one. I wonder if they'll bring back Bombards & Griffons, or something like their old Epic tanks (Ragnarok, etc.).

If GW wasn't so set against crossovers, the Malcador would have been ideal. But it is HH, and 40k has the Dorn now.

Death riders with a focus on special weapons could be a thing, and engineers with the hades drill are another potential.

I'd like to see Mole Mortars & Thudd Guns, but looking at LI they've been rolled into the Rapier.

Of course we'll get Death Riders, mark my words. A command squad is a given too as are some heavy weapon options. And a sprue for stuff like tank commanders and crew.

They won't revive the old FW Death Korps which was in fact a whole different guard army. But they'll surely make it possible to play a Codex army with them.

Death Riders, Command squads and grenadiers would make sense to me.

But I suppose based off the Kroot set, you'd be looking at two squads of regular Krieg, a command, cavalry and then perhaps another character (Commissar/quartermaster).

At a long shot, it might be interesting if they had a different set of heavy weapon teams, perhaps leaning either towards the heavier mortars or the lighter stubbers, heavy flamers and mole mortars that had previously been spread across different Krieg infantry types.

Give grenadiers and a choice in heads and perhaps hellguns vs shotguns and you could even have a Krieg split of the Kasrkin/Scion dynamic of scouts vs deep strike using Grenadiers vs Engineers.

I would love the return of Cannon Fodder (or "Conscripts" if we're being all politically correct about it).

Nothing like being able to say "I have more bodies than you have bullets".

And they'd fit nicely with the DKK.

DKoK have never had conscripts, funnily enough. They've had a slightly odd theme of elite cannon fodder where their basic troopers were better than the average Guard soldier, not worse.

I just want to mention that there is a high potential that the current weapon options for the DKoK infantry squad will change, as the current kit only comes with one part required for most special weapons (the right arm if I recall correct).

Brickfix wrote:
I just want to mention that there is a high potential that the current weapon options for the DKoK infantry squad will change, as the current kit only comes with one part required for most special weapons (the right arm if I recall correct).

Melta, plasma and bolt gun all use the same left arm, but with a bit of wiggling others can be made to substitute.

I wish they'd recut Catachans so they had more than just a flamer. NMNR really hit them hard.

Removed for rule 1 - ingtaer.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Brickfix wrote:
I just want to mention that there is a high potential that the current weapon options for the DKoK infantry squad will change, as the current kit only comes with one part required for most special weapons (the right arm if I recall correct).

Melta, plasma and bolt gun all use the same left arm, but with a bit of wiggling others can be made to substitute.

Isn't that the kit that let's you have either a radio guy or a plasma gunner, because they in theory use the same body?

Yes that's the kit. If kept some spare bodies to adjust for any typical adjustments that all recent codices have suffered from.
The question is, do they notice that the models that can be built do not really match what the instructions suggest as possible options? Because while the plasma gunner and vox caster can both be built (and the limitation makes little change), it might require new instructions, especially if they decide to sell the box with 40k branding and without the kill team specific upgrade sprue.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Brickfix wrote:
I just want to mention that there is a high potential that the current weapon options for the DKoK infantry squad will change, as the current kit only comes with one part required for most special weapons (the right arm if I recall correct).

Melta, plasma and bolt gun all use the same left arm, but with a bit of wiggling others can be made to substitute.

Isn't that the kit that let's you have either a radio guy or a plasma gunner, because they in theory use the same body?

The instruction guide says they use the same body, but I somehow managed to build both form one box since the bodies are pretty interchangeable.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Shoulda been 'Militarum Astra', or 'Militarum Imperialis', to fit with the Latin-ish naming conventions of 40k. After all, it's the Adeptus Astates, not the Astartes Adeptus.

Word order really isn't standardised in Latin like it is in English. Obviously that might not apply to 'High Gothic', but it's not a stretch to say that you could have adjectives either before or after the relevant noun.

 Perfect Organism wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

oh and also, they've been called Astra Militarum for over 15 years at this point. i have no idea what the issue with that name is for some people

Shoulda been 'Militarum Astra', or 'Militarum Imperialis', to fit with the Latin-ish naming conventions of 40k. After all, it's the Adeptus Astates, not the Astartes Adeptus.

Word order really isn't standardised in Latin like it is in English. Obviously that might not apply to 'High Gothic', but it's not a stretch to say that you could have adjectives either before or after the relevant noun.

Yeah, that's the Latin-'ish'. Mainly though, it's the fact that Astra Mil has the same two-letter abbreviation as the Adept Mech. Not helpful!

I just plugged it into google translate. "Astra Militarum" comes out as "Star Wars". While "Militarum Astra" comes out "Military Stars".
"Soldiers of the Stars" comes out as "Milites stellarum".

Since I speak more low gothic in my daily life I prefer to call them Imperial Guard.

If I call Imperial Guard Astra Militarum shouldn't I call Space Marines Adeptus Asartes?

Yes, that’s right, this whole time it’s been a tongue-in-cheek reference to another sci-fi property and no-one noticed.

Almost like Gothic is basically pig Latin and not a real world language that follows real world rules.

 Gert wrote:
Almost like Gothic is basically pig Latin and not a real world language that follows real world rules.

But it almost has an internal consistency. Look, I just get needlessly triggered whenever someone write 'Adeptus Sororitas', it's a me problem.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Gert wrote:
Almost like Gothic is basically pig Latin and not a real world language that follows real world rules.

But it almost has an internal consistency. Look, I just get needlessly triggered whenever someone write 'Adeptus Sororitas', it's a me problem.

Yea, agree its crazy to call the ladies Adeptus.
For what its worth, if you go back to medieval times you find the latin grammar is pretty bad, and the 40k variant could be an analogy to medieval clercs and monks getting by on old archives with inherrited gramatical errors.

 Dysartes wrote:
From the Dark Eldar perspective, I'd say that the deeper into the edition they go without a new book, the better the odds feel that you might get a chonky release this time.

Might be the copium talking, but until the book drops, there's a chance...

Calling it now - the "chonky release" will be:
- A new Lelith model (she's fat now).
- A new Drazhar model with an even bigger rock to stand on.

Oh and the Beastmaster, all three Beasts and all four Court of the Archon units have been deleted from the codex to streamline the army.