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Dudeface wrote:
So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.

There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:

Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong

Maybe this is a sign we're getting more than three years for this edition? Dare we hope?

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.

There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:

Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong

Maybe this is a sign we're getting more than three years for this edition? Dare we hope?

If anything I'd imagine a 10.5 where the books carry over.

Dudeface wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?

Long fangs, blood claws/grey hunters, wulfen, wolf guard and thunderwolves are all still around as firstborn iirc.

See, I read that as "probably (going to be) gone".

I'm not sure I'd expect to see much beyond a few characters and actual exclusive units (ie, not Long Fangs). Maybe an upgrade for one of their dreadnoughts?


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Dudeface wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.

There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:

Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong

Maybe this is a sign we're getting more than three years for this edition? Dare we hope?

If anything I'd imagine a 10.5 where the books carry over.

The 8E books carried into 9th, and Age of Sigmar managed three whole editions of not completely borking over the rules.

We're definitely due for a soft role over.

Dudeface wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?

Long fangs, blood claws/grey hunters, wulfen, wolf guard and thunderwolves are all still around as firstborn iirc.

Things are being removed with the codex release. Black Templars still have two versions of Crusaders at the moment, but I assume that will change with their Codex as well.

Dudeface wrote:

So, for the sins of daring to exist, daemons is singularly causing world eaters, death guard and thousand sons to all receive books in the "less than 12 months of use" window, along with chaos knights.

There's still far too many factions to comfortably fit in the last year of the edition imo. Assuming June 2026 11th drops:

Between space wolves in, I would assume, June/July - there is remaining:
- tsons
- WE
- DG
- Chaos knights (could sneak in with loyalist as a paired release?)
- grey knights (they stated they're 2025 already)
- leagues of votann
- drukhari
- daemons, if the rumours are wrong

I don't think his rumours are all that will be released. The start with Krieg/Eldar/Knights is pretty likely to be everything but after that I wouldn't be surprised if there are 1-2 more single hero factions between EC and SW. Those two are just the big multiple kit releases for Spring and Summer but likely not the only releases for that time frame

I could see Dark Eldar being a simple release, although they really do need a few all-resin units updated to plastic. Beastmaster units, and retinue for example. They also deserve a "centerpiece" model or super-character release. While this is far from a "big release", but likely not a "single model or no model" release.

Knight/Chaos Knights are candidates for a no-model release.

Grey knights need a bit of everything, AND they have rumors of a new vehicle kit. This is likely a larger release.

Votann and World Eaters need at least a couple new units each, as they are really only half-armies. I'd wager Jump Pack troops for Votann and Juggernaut riders for WE.

 cuda1179 wrote:
I could see Dark Eldar being a simple release, although they really do need a few all-resin units updated to plastic. Beastmaster units, and retinue for example. They also deserve a "centerpiece" model or super-character release. While this is far from a "big release", but likely not a "single model or no model" release.

Knight/Chaos Knights are candidates for a no-model release.

Grey knights need a bit of everything, AND they have rumors of a new vehicle kit. This is likely a larger release.

Votann and World Eaters need at least a couple new units each, as they are really only half-armies. I'd wager Jump Pack troops for Votann and Juggernaut riders for WE.

GW stated every release gets at least A model, but if we're honest 50% of the outstanding factions aren't going to be multi-kit releases either.

I'd be amazed if Death Guard got more than a single character.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
I'd be amazed if Death Guard got more than a single character.

Which I would find unfortunate, given that the army is already 50% characters (16 out of 32 datasheets).

The most likely model for Death Guard (if they get anything beyond daemons) is probably a new Bell Guy so that the current repurposed Dark Imperium sprue can be taken out of circulation.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

 Shakalooloo wrote:
I'd be amazed if Death Guard got more than a single character.

Which I would find unfortunate, given that the army is already 50% characters (16 out of 32 datasheets).

Only 50%? Pff! Genestealer Cults, with their 14/24 characters laughs.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The most likely model for Death Guard (if they get anything beyond daemons) is probably a new Bell Guy so that the current repurposed Dark Imperium sprue can be taken out of circulation.

Either that or a Deamonic Herald if they are being folded into the respective Legion dexes.

Side note - the Space Marine 2 Recruit Edition starter was back in store when I went in today, and apparently the allocation was quite a bit bigger this time.

 cuda1179 wrote:

Knight/Chaos Knights are candidates for a no-model release.

There is the possibility that Knights might be a shared codex for this edition if there isn't anything on offer for neither faction. But being positive...

A 40K packaged Cerastus seems highly likely, but the Armigers are rather jealous of their Wardog rivals these days. I'd be very surprised if the Tyrant doesn't get it's own dedicated kit.

Combat Patrol boxes might introduce Household foot soldiers that fight alongside a pair of Armigers or Wardogs.

 Fayric wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:
Given the firstborn are probably gone, there's got to be at the very least a new version of Thunderwolves?

Huge TWC and Redemptor Bjorn probably unavoidable. Would be awesome if we got some simple Grey Hunter style intercessors that act more like veterans and have aditional gear, and a curse spitting axe vielding elite executioners unit. You know, cunning yet brutal.

I know this is a lore nitpick and the model team kinda does what they want, but did they ever fix the redemptor burn-out problem?

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

I know this is a lore nitpick and the model team kinda does what they want, but did they ever fix the redemptor burn-out problem?

They never fixed the 'Thunderhawks can't transport Primaris vehicles' problem, so take a guess...

Not convinced that one is a problem, Lord Damocles - would you carry the Primaris vehicles, if you had a choice?

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 ProfSrlojohn wrote:

I know this is a lore nitpick and the model team kinda does what they want, but did they ever fix the redemptor burn-out problem?

They never fixed the 'Thunderhawks can't transport Primaris vehicles' problem, so take a guess...

It's the pilots you see; they're not allowed to admit Primaris onboard as they're too young to ride inside a real military vehicle. Maybe when they're older...

Thunderhawk eh? Would be cool if space marines got a big plastic centerpiece model like most other armies. Poor marines never get anything nice

The Plastic Thunderhawk will be announced when GW announces the launch of the Adepticus Aeronaticus faction in 40k, thus ensuring that Marines do not get a big plastic centerpiece model for their army, and in fact lose several vehicle models to the new faction.

New from Valrak on the Emperors Children -

*10 man tactical EC marine squad, lots of headplumes etc
* Noise Marines (6 man) squad, some additional new weapon option.
* 3 man elite possessed swordsman unit - (sounds like possessed Palatine Blades to me?)
* A generic lord with options
* Lucius The Eternal
* Fulgrim, nice model with multiple options for his expressions.

No Eidolon. Not aware of any Terminators.
Valrak says no upgrade kit, but I'd be really surprised if that ten man squad was entirely new models and not an upgrade to the existing Chaos Marine sprue like the Night Lords personally. Space Wolf release is supposedly bigger than the EC (though no Russ it seems?)

Emperors Children rumours from Valrak:

Similar to the World Eaters release.

Basic 10 legionnaires are styled like old EC artwork, "plumed helmets, heresy style shoulder pads and bolters".
Noise Marines are 6 per squad, sonic weapons and some other type of weapon.
Elite 3-man swordsman unit fused with daemons, can have double swords.
New model for Lucius, generic Lord with weapon options, no Eidolon.
Fulgrim of course also returns "apparently one of the best models GW ever made", multiple face options.

Heard nothing about Terminators, upgrade kit or vehicles.

SW will apparently be a bigger release than EC

Ooh exciting! Get ready for your existing Noise Marines to be soft invalidated by the new weapon options.

Weird, so noise marines are not the "basic EC infantry battleline squad", and instead the new tac legionnaire squad is? That's odd as it shifts noise marines out of the category they used to occupy alongside rubrics, berserkers, and Plague marines

Unless its part of a change and the other god armies will get upgrade kits for tactical marines as well?

Though honestly you'd think they'd just do a vehicle upgrade kit per-god if that were the case since vehicles/machines are the only things the other god specific armies really share. The rest of the infantry is god specific models.

...no word on Doomrider yet?

Perhaps the split between EC tactical squads and Noise Marines is less than you'd think. It's possible BOTH are Battleline I'm placing my money on the 10 man squad basically being the old-school NoiseMarines with bolters and the 6- man squad being sonic weapons. If that's how it works out then it's a good way for older collections to fit themselves into new rules.

 Overread wrote:
Unless its part of a change and the other god armies will get upgrade kits for tactical marines as well?

Though honestly you'd think they'd just do a vehicle upgrade kit per-god if that were the case since vehicles/machines are the only things the other god specific armies really share. The rest of the infantry is god specific models.

I'm not sure that matters much for rubrics nor plague marines who are effectively tac marines anyway, but I wouldn't say no to some world eater bolter boys.

 Dysartes wrote:
...no word on Doomrider yet?

There can never be any forewarning of DOOOOOMRIDER, he comes and he goes as he wills!