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Weird that the power sword doesn’t have that power field doohickey

Maybe it's not a power sword?

Could be a Charnabal Blade.

Loving the sonic weapons.

I like that the Blastmaster has an 8-pointed Chaos star as its volume knob.

Sonic weapons are looking very cool!

And yeah I'd say that doesn't look like a powersword right now - paint of course can make a huge difference but it looks like a regular blade with no adornments/powercell etc


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 Asmodai wrote:
I like that the Blastmaster has an 8-pointed Chaos star as its volume knob.

I wonder if there were debates over going for 8 for chaos reference or 11

 Asmodai wrote:
I like that the Blastmaster has an 8-pointed Chaos star as its volume knob.

I'm kinda surprised it even has a volume knob. One would think you'd just crank that baby to 11 and then remove the knob.

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
the army already sucks this edition, so why did they feel the need to nerf us

GSC currently has the highest overall win rate. They've had a few dominating performances lately, though it tends to be when they roll well and the respawns.

 LunarSol wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
the army already sucks this edition, so why did they feel the need to nerf us

GSC currently has the highest overall win rate. They've had a few dominating performances lately, though it tends to be when they roll well and the respawns.

HUH. guess i haven't been following with recent news very much. still, i think this just feels bad. army rule has been getting less and less exciting throughout the edition...

Seriously now. 32 new updates to existing books. I'm just going to go ahead and say it - GW has completely lost the plot when it comes to authoring books. They should dump em all into a big burning can and stick to supplying the rules via the 40K app. Took about book/edition churn, this FAQ/balance churn is something else entirely. Not sure I could keeo up with this ish if I tried.

You end up getting 100+ PDF documents per year now, thats 300+ PDFs per an edition FFS! "Simplified, not simple" anyone?

 tauist wrote:
Seriously now. 32 new updates to existing books. I'm just going to go ahead and say it - GW has completely lost the plot when it comes to authoring books. They should dump em all into a big burning can and stick to supplying the rules via the 40K app. Took about book/edition churn, this FAQ/balance churn is something else entirely. Not sure I could keeo up with this ish if I tried.

You end up getting 100+ PDF documents per year now, thats 300+ PDFs per an edition FFS! "Simplified, not simple" anyone?

It's just... reality? I mean the other option is these things just aren't worth playing.

The real answer though is the app. You don't have to keep track of any of it. It's all kept up to date for you and works quite well. I mostly only care about the PDFs to see the changes when they happen. For actual gameplay the app handles all of it.

I doubt we'll ever know the rationale behind sonic weapons now having flamer-style fuel canisters...

Oh, I know what that is... they are tanks of saliva, so the guns don't get sore throats.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I doubt we'll ever know the rationale behind sonic weapons now having flamer-style fuel canisters...

I'm thinking it's more like the fuel cells on Hellblasters. It's not actually containing the projectile, just powering the device. Imagine them carrying giant boom-boxes that need their D-cell batteries changed often.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I doubt we'll ever know the rationale behind sonic weapons now having flamer-style fuel canisters...

Scream canisters obviously. There's a whole industry around refilling them.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Oh, I know what that is... they are tanks of saliva, so the guns don't get sore throats.

Maybe it’s jars of Vaseline? They line their throats so that their voices come out smoother. An old Elton John trick

I thought that they were ancillary bagpipe nozzles, for ULTIMATE sonic assault.

 LunarSol wrote:

It's just... reality? I mean the other option is these things just aren't worth playing.

Isn't the other option to not write rules that aren't worth writing?

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

It's just... reality? I mean the other option is these things just aren't worth playing.

Isn't the other option to not write rules that aren't worth writing?

I don't have an issue with FAQs and Erratas.
GW might have a bit too many, but it's unrealistic to expect perfection out the gate, no matter how much playtesting and editing you do, and it's better to fix issues than let them fester.

That said, the lack of ease of use (and paying for the App and all the rules is not a good answer) is an issue.

 LunarSol wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I doubt we'll ever know the rationale behind sonic weapons now having flamer-style fuel canisters...

Scream canisters obviously. There's a whole industry around refilling them.

Spoiler:

Close. It's canned music necessitated by the design of the new sonic weapons. They're playback equipment, not instruments.

 JNAProductions wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

It's just... reality? I mean the other option is these things just aren't worth playing.

Isn't the other option to not write rules that aren't worth writing?

I don't have an issue with FAQs and Erratas.
GW might have a bit too many, but it's unrealistic to expect perfection out the gate, no matter how much playtesting and editing you do, and it's better to fix issues than let them fester.

That said, the lack of ease of use (and paying for the App and all the rules is not a good answer) is an issue.

What if they wrote rules that were cool, thematic, and fun to play for each army and stopped chasing this competitive meta win-rate bullcrap that the community wasn't asking for?

 JNAProductions wrote:

 lord_blackfang wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

It's just... reality? I mean the other option is these things just aren't worth playing.

Isn't the other option to not write rules that aren't worth writing?

I don't have an issue with FAQs and Erratas.
GW might have a bit too many, but it's unrealistic to expect perfection out the gate, no matter how much playtesting and editing you do, and it's better to fix issues than let them fester.

That said, the lack of ease of use (and paying for the App and all the rules is not a good answer) is an issue.

The app is free. You just have to pay for the codex which is.... irritating.

The actual free resources out here also do the updates for you.

And yes, the best answer is to be perfect in everything you do at all times. GW of today is no where near as bad about it as they used to be. These days the problems are far more a result of the disparity created by first order meta gaming and obvious prioritization issues from the game being too big. The.... wild incompetence of even 8th edition isn't nearly as prevalent.


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 Prometheum5 wrote:

What if they wrote rules that were cool, thematic, and fun to play for each army and stopped chasing this competitive meta win-rate bullcrap that the community wasn't asking for?

Because cool and thematic stops being fun when you get shot off the table bottom of 1.

I'm not a stickler for balance, but I've played enough poorly balanced games to know that fun rules become miserable in the face of crushing efficiency.

so maybe keep a game longer than 3 years and instead of releasing a new one might solve that issue

release new game, take a year of playtesting, add, release balance updates that already screws over all not yet released but already finished books needing another big update to sort things out at the end
and release a new game again because the abomination created is beyond fixing

the situation that "needs" this is created by GW themselves and not a natural part of game development that cannot be avoided

 kodos wrote:
so maybe keep a game longer than 3 years and instead of releasing a new one might solve that issue

release new game, take a year of playtesting, add, release balance updates that already screws over all not yet released but already finished books needing another big update to sort things out at the end
and release a new game again because the abomination created is beyond fixing

the situation that "needs" this is created by GW themselves and not a natural part of game development that cannot be avoided

You'd have more errata because the community would keep evolving, but I am all for editions lasting longer. 3 years is stupid short.

So, no bolter-guitars then?

I note though, that the backs of thecweapons have some gubbinz that remind me of bagpipes - highly appropriate IMO

I'll happily stick to using books, I like books. I don't understand why people want everything online, have you learned nothing from Terminator? Don't give machines the power or skynet will get you. Failing that it'll be Musk and I'm not sure what's more evil.

I like books when the contents of the books arent changed every 3 months and the entire book isnt scrapped and replaced ebery 3 years.

Rulebooks used to have longevity, you used to buy them and get a decade of use out of them.

Now?

Sometimes you buy one and i ts invalid within 6 months, like the 9th ed AM codex or rise of angmar for MESBG.

GW desperately needs to learn what a change log is. There are some changes within the various Indexes that are so obscure they're practically invisible. Also, would it hurt them to arrange the Grotmas stuff by date? All the updates are scattered throughout the Recently Updated section in what appears to be random order.

The changes seem fine overall. Not a fan of increasing AP on a bunch of close combat weapons, even if they were bad. I feel like if you're going to make such sweeping changes you need to just commit to them fully. 40k's biggest problem is the ludicrous lethality of the game (and has been for a while). I'd prefer a general reduction in that lethality rather than trying to bring weapons like combat knives up to the same level as everyone else. Not that I think giving extra AP to Infernus marines and knives is going to break the game, it's just indicative of a game moving in the wrong direction, IMO.

Also, it's hilarious that GW finally re-introduced Universal Special Rules in 10th but botched it so badly they now have to go through a bunch of individual rules and call out the 3" DS and AoC changes in each one.

CHAOS BAGPIPES!!!!!!

chaos0xomega wrote:
I like books when the contents of the books arent changed every 3 months and the entire book isnt scrapped and replaced ebery 3 years.

Rulebooks used to have longevity, you used to buy them and get a decade of use out of them.

This!

I'd also add I love reference books when the information is presented logically and where you can quickly find stuff. Another area GW fails on these days is that info can be scattershot all around within a single book. Heck without the FOC it seems that GW just throws dataslates in anywhere. The tyranid one has no logical structure, not even just basic alphabetical order. IT's lots of little things like that which likely make them faster to make (because you can 100% see that the 3 year cycle takes a toll on the writers); but which makes them a LOT harder to use.

It actually creates a barrier of entry all on its own

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Asmodai wrote:
I like that the Blastmaster has an 8-pointed Chaos star as its volume knob.

I'm kinda surprised it even has a volume knob. One would think you'd just crank that baby to 11 and then remove the knob.

No doubt it starts at 11 and they crank it to 18