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JWBS wrote:
Repaint makes it worse. This is like when people paint their Knights in chapter colours or something, bit of an immersion downgrade.

but the ksons mech isn't an independent operator, it's a ksons unit which includes the same design language as the rest of the range

Interestingly the app also shows the sanctifiers as an imperial agents unit, dont see that mentioned on the datasheet

The downloads page has two datasheets for the Sanctifiers now, one each for Sisters & IA.

Ah, didnt know that, only saw the two links posted here

The confessor is not part of the Sanctifier unit in 40k? Very weird.

I wonder what esoteric ritual GW perform to determine which of the specialists get 40K rules..?

'Ah yes, I'll just make one of my Goremongers worse!'

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The confessor is not part of the Sanctifier unit in 40k? Very weird.

They want the Confessor Ministorum Priest to use the existing datasheet.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I wonder what esoteric ritual GW perform to determine which of the specialists get 40K rules..?

'Ah yes, I'll just make one of my Goremongers worse!'

 Shakalooloo wrote:
The confessor is not part of the Sanctifier unit in 40k? Very weird.

They want the Confessor Ministorum Priest to use the existing datasheet.

It does mean that if someone happens to have a full complement of priest guys, they have to sub the new guy in for one of them, rather than getting to use him in addition. Bah! Time was one could have 0-5 preachers on top of however many HQ slots of bigger priests, and now it's just 3 total. Bah, I say!

Ignore this post

Looks like whoever wrote the rules for the Sanctifiers doesn't know what a Ministorum Flamer looks like and instead thinks it's a meltagun

EDIT: Wait nevermind, I'm just blind and didn't see that both missionaries start armed with different weapons

Doesn't really matter from a pure rules point of view, since nobody is going to be swapping their Plasma Gun and Holy Fire for a Meltagun anyway...

xttz wrote:Who wants some KT datasheets?

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_warhammer40000_goremongers_datasheet-v7ofc9jogl-bsmuycrjl1.pdf

https://assets.warhammer-community.com/eng_wh40k_otherrules_sororitas_sanctifiers_apr25-ltbrxbrijo-puqsdteq1f.pdf

Goremongers look like a decent and needed utility piece for world eaters, I expect to see at least one unit in every vaguely competitive list

The harpoon looks good, but the rest strikes me as underwhelming. The chainblades should at least have some ap.

JWBS wrote:Repaint makes it worse. This is like when people paint their Knights in chapter colours or something, bit of an immersion downgrade.

What's wrong with Knights in chapter colors? I can totally see a Knight closely linked to a particular chapter rocking that chapter's heraldry.

 ArcaneHorror wrote:

JWBS wrote:Repaint makes it worse. This is like when people paint their Knights in chapter colours or something, bit of an immersion downgrade.

What's wrong with Knights in chapter colors? I can totally see a Knight closely linked to a particular chapter rocking that chapter's heraldry.

Heck, some Knights are tied to certain chapters. Look at poor Draco, the Knight Paladin from Dawn of War III - The Thieving Magpie Chapter stole his whole Knight!

Yeah, some Freeblades do effectively become honorary members of Chapters.

I did think of one for the Tome Keepers, at one point.

It just doesn't make much sense in that combined armed forces don't operate like that, they don't adopt each others colours. Also for me personally I like the nostalgia of seeing two disticnt schemes delineating the disticnt forces like you used to see in WD army shots. When I was a kid I didn't like it and used to think a unified scheme would look better but I gradually grew to appreciate it (personal preference)

Agreed w JWBS. Used to value total uniformity when i was younger, these days i lean more into the feudal aspects of the setting where theres more individuality in personal heraldry, etc.

I can understand a freeblade adopting some heraldic aspect of another organization they work closely with, but that shouldnt *erase* their own personal heraldry and make their individual identity as a freeblade subservient to a chapter. I would argue that it would actually be inappropriate and frowned upon by other entities within the imperium who would view it as a breach of the codex astartes that threatens the imperium as a form of "legion building".

I assume that certain forge world based Knights have their identity subsumed by the forces that they are attached to.

House Steel from the Forge Moon of Deimos, have all taken vows of silence, and only support Grey Knight actions.

Even the AdMech colors reflect the GK esthetic (with a tad of faded teal).

Honestly, this just comes down to GW wanting Knights to both be their own thing and a super heavy walker they could use for every Imperium army. The fluff kind of turned into something that would justify including one for everyone rather than anything coherent.

Boardtopia sale on 40K! Dunno how good these prices are, so lemme know if they aren't.
https://boardtopiagames.com/collections/clearance?page=2&sort_by=title-ascending&grid_list=grid-view

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Doesn't really matter from a pure rules point of view, since nobody is going to be swapping their Plasma Gun and Holy Fire for a Meltagun anyway...

The silliness intensifies; as the build instructions for the Missionaries show the option of putting the brazier on the flamer guy, but the rules disallow it!

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 Lord Damocles wrote:
Doesn't really matter from a pure rules point of view, since nobody is going to be swapping their Plasma Gun and Holy Fire for a Meltagun anyway...

The silliness intensifies; as the build instructions for the Missionaries show the option of putting the brazier on the flamer guy, but the rules disallow it!

No, it is an option. The flamer missionary can have a brazier or a holy relic, and the other one can have a melta gun and holy relic or a plasma gun and brazier. It's melta man that doesn't get to play with the brazier.

EDIT; Whoops, you obviously meant the 40k rules, where yes, they disallow that flame/flame combo. Which is extra weird, since the KT rules really incentivise giving the brazier to the flamer missionary - sure, the second flame attack is redundant, but since they lack a chainsword it gives them a decent melee attack.

The Confessor not having 40k rules beyond 'use Ministorum priest' is strange since he doesn't match the available weapon options.

Emperor's Children next week.

And there's one WarCom social media site missing in the video. Guess what it is.

Someone on Reddit has ended up with Lady Malys bundled in with a job lot of Sisters of Battle.




Apparently she has the option to be assembled with or without a veil (bits 2 and 15 on the top pic), so perhaps Vect has decided to settle down...

LADY MALYS!!! FINALLY!!!

I note the sprue says 2023.

The new front runner in the contest for least practical footwear in the 41st millennium.


'Grats on your model for this decade, Dark Eldar players

Oh, no way! That is awesome!

 Lord Damocles wrote:
The new front runner in the contest for least practical footwear in the 41st millennium.


'Grats on your model for this decade, Dark Eldar players

It's a named Archon and a character being added back into the codex rather than being removed. Win all around.

Ooooh! Very cool!

Dare we hope for Duke Whathisface as well? Maybe Vect?

Duke Sliscus, Decapitator, and Baron Sathonyx are too much to hope for. Vect has been elevated to such NPC status that we may never see him on the table again.

 KidCthulhu wrote:
Duke Sliscus, Decapitator, and Baron Sathonyx are too much to hope for. Vect has been elevated to such NPC status that we may never see him on the table again.

We got the Silent King and Primarchs, so I think that Lord Vect is more that possible, he's inevitable!