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 kodos wrote:
of course, instead of writing proper rules it is easier to make a new model that is worse to store and transport

They did that, too.

The kit is significantly easier to build and will have a new Datasheet which clarifies exactly where everything gets measured from – leaving little room for creative rules interpretations. That new Datasheet will be available via free download when it’s released.

I was about to say, "Hey, they didn't Primaris the hell out of it, what a pleasant surprise!" but the doors stuck open kills my enthusiasm. I guess it's okay if I treat strictly as a terrain piece for my Inquisimunda stuff.

 kodos wrote:
of course, instead of writing proper rules it is easier to make a new model that is worse to store and transport

It's also a dramatically less cool toy to play with.

I admit the new model is better for playing, but the old model was more useful, as you could not only use it as a game piece, but could use it in Dioramas etc. Now that the doors are always open, there's less modelling potential with the kit.

The Land Raider article posted right after the pods make me think we might be getting a re-made Land Raider as well..

 tauist wrote:
I admit the new model is better for playing, but the old model was more useful, as you could not only use it as a game piece, but could use it in Dioramas etc. Now that the doors are always open, there's less modelling potential with the kit.

The Land Raider article posted right after the pods make me think we might be getting a re-made Land Raider as well..

Honestly the LR kit holds up pretty darn well, especially considering its age. It might be nice to have it reboxed with a new accessory sprue, but I’m happy with the old ones.

I need to re-hang the poster that came with the WD in my workshop…

Im surprised and a bit disappointed nobody has commented on the fact that they put the new drop pod on an (optional) tactical rock.

OI! Space Marines have already had their nice shiny toys for this edition!

Where's our bleedin' Knights?

But seriously, these look nice even as ordinary scenery pieces.

We improved the Drop Pod by removing all options it had and replaced them by a tactical rock. 40k's current Design philosophy in a nutshell.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Im surprised and a bit disappointed nobody has commented on the fact that they put the new drop pod on an (optional) tactical rock.

They do look like a fairly decent source of tac rocks for use on other models.

Hoping the new datasheet doesn't just remove the guns and call it a day, gaining options for transporting Gravis/Centurions would make them much more useable.

Ease of assembly aside (and really, the old/current one isn't that bad), this looks like a straight downgrade as a model. The open doors like distinctly stubbier as well.

Piousservant wrote:

Ease of assembly aside (and really, the old/current one isn't that bad), this looks like a straight downgrade as a model. The open doors like distinctly stubbier as well.

One of the things that makes the current pod so bad is trying to build it so it opens/closes. If the said “screw it” and just glued everything in one position, it would be a lot easier.

I’m OK with stubby doors. The footprint on the table on the doors open old ones was massive. Even with stubby doors, I would not be shocked to get a “ignore the doors, measure everything from the hull” rule.

Ease of assembly- not just the doors. Instead of a seperate harness assembly that goes in the middle and takes 15 parts, the harnesses are molded up and dividers are part of the outer fins, meaning 20 parts are down to a mere 5, though with less detail.

its the year of Chaos right? ......... Now generic space marines got as many releases as TS, WE and DG. lol

 xeen wrote:
its the year of Chaos right?

Fun fact... "year of chaos" wasn't actually referring to AOS Skaven, it was a reference to how often the release schedule would be rearranged and messed around.

The old kit was one of the few mainline kits that took genuine modelling skill to even put together. It was also on three sprues, which is the same as the Rogal Dorn.

My guess is they have the ability to cut that in half, which is why they're packed two to a box. Making it always open cuts ten door pieces to five, and two base pieces to one. cut out the weapon and harnesses, and even with the rocks I think you can squeeze it pretty tight.

The key to this kit will be whether the door pieces have exterior detailing. GW tells us the rocks are optional; I don't see much point in them being optional if the doors don't have exterior detailing. What I'm hoping is that ambitious modellers can convert hinged doors if they want to...

Because fixed open doors are just... Dull.

Also, two in a box will make the kit more expensive, and will likely include unit splitting rules so that you can't use a single pod to deliver 10 models.

I might try and pick up one of the old kits before they disappear- having doors that open and close is a must-have option for me, and I'm not sure I want to take a chance on GW giving me the option to convert the model I want.

 Nevelon wrote:
The footprint on the table on the doors open old ones was massive. Even with stubby doors, I would not be shocked to get a “ignore the doors, measure everything from the hull” rule.

I really wish they put "ignore doors" in the rules. Even with the new one the footprint with the doors is pretty damn big, and with old one it is huge. And it will be awkward if a lot of people have the old models with significantly different footprint than the new one. Besides, it is just bizarre that it the doors are part of the model, you technically cannot put your models on them and the enemy models cannot even move over them.

I'm assuming they're treating these new models are terrain, so I'd guess they won't be convertible, but you never know.

Finally, a kit with less detail, less functionality and less freedom! But to be fair, GW also for the first time in history removed an unnecessary gun from something.

Utterly disappointing.
Ive only just wanted to get a droppod but now this is coming can't find the original anywhere.
I want closeable doors... I'm getting right royally pissed off with gw's changes for the "better" of late.
Not everyone is game orientated. Some are modellers. This has just removed all interest in droppods for me now.

GW's sales pitch of 'yeah we took off the dumb guns and clarified the janky rules' is... interesting... given that they were entirely problems of their own making...

Quick question, who really wanted a new drop pod model?

Show of hands...

Zero.... uhhh... zero.... and uhhh... zero.

Wait. You in the back... oh. You wanted a new Hammerfall?

Maybe these drop pods will be set up in your deployment zone like the Hammerfall...





(This model does give me hope that when new Knight models are released, they will come with rocks to stand on.)

 Lord Damocles wrote:
GW's sales pitch of 'yeah we took off the dumb guns and clarified the janky rules' is... interesting... given that they were entirely problems of their own making...

Yes I noticed that too... It's clearly an attempt at humerous self depreciation.
However.
For most change hating, neo-phobic ranters, like myself, it's another nail in the coffin. And reads more like; "we made a model that's irritating to build and awkward to use in game.
Now we're fixing it, arent we wonderful?"

Taking one thing away to ammend another issue is not solving problems.
Then forcing you into buying two at a time, to justify improved costs...

Gah... Ignore me. I'm old, and just plain sick of it ...

I'd say that it's sad that you can't build pseudo-Dreadnought pods from the new kit, but GW's all but got rid of Castaferrum Dreadnoughts anyway now so...

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Quick question, who really wanted a new drop pod model?

Show of hands...

Zero.... uhhh... zero.... and uhhh... zero.

Wait. You in the back... oh. You wanted a new Hammerfall?

Maybe these drop pods will be set up in your deployment zone like the Hammerfall...





(This model does give me hope that when new Knight models are released, they will come with rocks to stand on.)

I did, but I was hoping for a spiky version, like they showed in the most recent Crusade book that I'll probably never play with.

I expect I will have the new ones built long before I get around to finishing the pile of old ones sitting partially completed out of frustration.

If it is 2 in a kit, I'd expect something g like 2 different sprues- 3 copies with 3 fins and some rubble, and a second with one fin and the center engine and bottom plate

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

Spoiler:

Quick question, who really wanted a new drop pod model?

Show of hands...

Zero.... uhhh... zero.... and uhhh... zero.

Wait. You in the back... oh. You wanted a new Hammerfall?

Maybe these drop pods will be set up in your deployment zone like the Hammerfall...





(This model does give me hope that when new Knight models are released, they will come with rocks to stand on.)

I did, but I was hoping for a spiky version, like they showed in the most recent Crusade book that I'll probably never play with.

The book, or the Drop Pod?

Because there are Spiky models on the Emperor's side.... just step over here... around this blind corner...



I do like this Snippet from GW:

You’ll note the impact debris under the doors – this is modular and can be added to suit your taste when building the Drop Pods

Modular Tactical Rocks.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Quick question, who really wanted a new drop pod model?

/snip

I did, but I was hoping for a spiky version, like they showed in the most recent Crusade book that I'll probably never play with.

That would have been too much to hope for during The Year of Chaos...

There really wasn't any need to replace what is a perfectly nice existing model. The rules for the guns are an irrelevance either way and any rules for open/closed doors and where to measure from could simply been have an errata.

I'm sure the new model will look great but why not something else like the aforementioned Dreadclaw? Even if GW wanted a loyalist SM release, why not new assault terminators or bring back the thunderfire cannon.

I've got two drop pods. I won't be getting any new ones.

For sure you can have a closed version right?

 NAVARRO wrote:
For sure you can have a closed version right?

It doesn't look that way.