CorwinB wrote:
So the Legions Imperialis Drop Pod kit is going to be more complicated than the 40K one ? What a time to be hobbying!

 tauist wrote:
I think we havent seen the last of the old Drop Pod model. GW's just going to slap a new SKU and boxart to it, so then they will have two Drop Pod kits, one for HH and one for 40K. Suits their current obsession of making discreet kits for each franchise.

 BorderCountess wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I think we havent seen the last of the old Drop Pod model. GW's just going to slap a new SKU and boxart to it, so then they will have two Drop Pod kits, one for HH and one for 40K. Suits their current obsession of making discreet kits for each franchise.

The new one's a Primaris Drop Pod. It can transport 10 Tacticus Marines (Firstborns are too short to safely fit in the harnesses).

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 BorderCountess wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I think we havent seen the last of the old Drop Pod model. GW's just going to slap a new SKU and boxart to it, so then they will have two Drop Pod kits, one for HH and one for 40K. Suits their current obsession of making discreet kits for each franchise.

The new one's a Primaris Drop Pod. It can transport 10 Tacticus Marines (Firstborns are too short to safely fit in the harnesses).

So no Spiky Chaotic Types allowed then?

I wonder how fast they (GW) will phase out the old Drop Pods from games.

I know a couple people who still use the (now old) Drop Pod in their current builds.

 RedSarge wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
So the Legions Imperialis Drop Pod kit is going to be more complicated than the 40K one ? What a time to be hobbying!

Ooof... lol that's just too darn funny!

What do you want to bet that this "new" drop pod will be made in China, at around $80 MSRP? With the same type of oily plastic the terrain is made from?

 PenitentJake wrote:

 LunarSol wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:
For sure you can have a closed version right?

Nope. Article clearly states they are always open:

the endlessly fiddly doors that spawned a thousand arguments about vehicle footprints are now fastened firmly in their open position.

It IS entirely possible that GW will cut this model in such a way that a simple hinged-door conversion will be impossible: their intent is clearly that the piece be modelled with open doors (according to Warcom, who have been known to make mistakes).

 Dawnbringer wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
This does raise a question: whats going to happen to owners of the current drop pod? Based on the article, there will be rules pertaining to how to properly measure rules interactions based on the new kit, presumably to include the new smaller doors. That likely means the current kit is entirely mechanically illegal, assuming the doors are being counted as part of the model. And if they are, anyone who built their pods with doors closed is fully sol

I'm going to choose the hope that the rules will be based around the main structure of the model which I've seen is apparently close in size, therefore leaving the old model more painful to actually place on the table due to the larger doors (if open) but the old model remains viable.

 Asmodai wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
This does raise a question: whats going to happen to owners of the current drop pod? Based on the article, there will be rules pertaining to how to properly measure rules interactions based on the new kit, presumably to include the new smaller doors. That likely means the current kit is entirely mechanically illegal, assuming the doors are being counted as part of the model. And if they are, anyone who built their pods with doors closed is fully sol

Doors closed is probably the easiest to adapt - just cut a piece of MDF to the footprint of the new drop pod and put the old drop pod on it with some rocks and scenery.

If the current Pod is bigger open than the new one, then that's more of a challenge to adapt - though you could close the doors and use the first option.

 BorderCountess wrote:


Sorry, I forgot the [/sarcasm] tag.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It would just been easier to say the doors blast off upon landing... and all the problems would've been solved.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
So the Legions Imperialis Drop Pod kit is going to be more complicated than the 40K one ? What a time to be hobbying!

Ooof... lol that's just too darn funny!

What do you want to bet that this "new" drop pod will be made in China, at around $80 MSRP? With the same type of oily plastic the terrain is made from?

When was the last time they made terrain outside the UK? I know they used to, but anecdotes aside, any actual evidence of it lately?

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
It would just been easier to say the doors blast off upon landing... and all the problems would've been solved.

and then people would have gotten mad at GW over it being a retcon

 kodos wrote:
the doors have always been blast off at landing

 kodos wrote:
the problem was simply that early models were build with closed doors because of no interior and true line of sight using the actual model have them an advantage

Andykp wrote:
So much rage over a new drop pod?? The old one had doors you could shut, so what, the doors never closed after they landed, they stayed open, said so in the fluff so what was the point of the does closing on the model, other than making rocket noises as you put it on the table!

 Lord Damocles wrote:

 kodos wrote:
the doors have always been blast off at landing

Clearly not, given all previous models...

 Lord Damocles wrote:

Que?

 xttz wrote:

The expense part comes in when you realise they can cut in half the number of needed door components. The current kit has an inside and outside piece for each door, but fixing the doors open removes the need for outside detail. This kit can now consist of 2x sprue for the pod base, then 5x smaller identical sprues with 2 struts & 2 doors, for 10 of each total. That's why they come in pairs.

This will be a cheaper / smaller injection mold that the previous kit, but it's worth noting that 'cheaper' only applies to GW's own costs. These are not going to be cheap for customers heh.

 Dawnbringer wrote:

 RedSarge wrote:

CorwinB wrote:
So the Legions Imperialis Drop Pod kit is going to be more complicated than the 40K one ? What a time to be hobbying!

Ooof... lol that's just too darn funny!

What do you want to bet that this "new" drop pod will be made in China, at around $80 MSRP? With the same type of oily plastic the terrain is made from?

When was the last time they made terrain outside the UK? I know they used to, but anecdotes aside, any actual evidence of it lately?

Dudeface wrote:

Andykp wrote:
So much rage over a new drop pod?? The old one had doors you could shut, so what, the doors never closed after they landed, they stayed open, said so in the fluff so what was the point of the does closing on the model, other than making rocket noises as you put it on the table!

As for the “fear” that each one only holds 5 marines, don’t be daft you can see space for each marine in the harness clamp things, 2 per door, so 10. Stop panicking it will be ok.

Drop pod models should be cheap and easy to build as they are more terrain than vehicle so this kit is perfect, it lost a storm bolter, so what, the storm bolter wasn’t the defining feature of the model. Losing the doors as has been suggested would have been a bigger change to what has been the definitive feature of the drop pod, it opening up like petals of a flower.

They have made a model that is more usable, easier to build but still serves the exact same purpose as the old when, this is just better and good move by GW. I can easily imagine sales of drop pods haven’t been great for a while now and this kit will sell. I have had my current marine army since primaris arrived and haven’t been interested in buying a drop pod because the kit was a pain, these I will 100% pick up a box and bet I’m not alone in that.

The defining feature of the drop pod was that it provided a rule that didn't necessitate a model. They've always been wrong for the tabletop.

 Tamereth wrote:
Is this the first post primaris marine release to have less guns than the original? I mean it doesn't even have a heavy stubber on it for emperors sake.

The old kit was a pain to build so I get the redo, but non closing doors is lame. Especially as the tiny LI kit has them.

It also means some HH kits are going bye bye, the dreadclaw for instance uses the plastic kit as a base. Unless we get new ones of those. Maybe plastic dread drop pods are on their way?

 vipoid wrote:
If GW wanted to make a new Drop Pod (of course, the model the fanbase has been chanting for ), I would have thought it would make more sense to make a different version - e.g. have it turn into more of a bunker that the Marines can stay in if they want to. If they want a more sensible gun, have a heavy gun or two that the Marines can operate.

Now, personally I don't think this is warranted in the most bloated army in existence. Let alone while other armies (that, just for once, I will refrain from naming) are emaciated husks.

However, it would seem more logical than an out-of-nowhere new model for a drop pod, apparently just to make some slight tweaks to the rules.

 kodos wrote:

the very first drop pod model we got was a paper template in white dwarf to cut your own cardboard model and add parts from the imperial guard tank accessory frame

 Kalamadea wrote:
Forgeworld drop pod only had 5 marines, one in each door (instead of the shoulder harnasses for 10), but otherwise the plastic and FW pods were nearly identical. The doors were always hinged and folded down when they "blew off". GW made a tiny version for Epic Armageddon where the base was the doors already blown open, exactly like the new plastic kit.

I always glued mine shut, made it easier to paint, easier to transport, took up less footprint on the table. These new pods are going to be hella annoying to transport and store

 cuda1179 wrote:
Two things I'm wondering about from a modeling perspective:

1. For those that want to hack up the model and make it able to have closable doors, I wonder if the doors would even line up right with the main body? GW never intended them to, so they might not.

2. Is there any detail to the main body under the doors? If no you're going to have to scratch build the entire underside and lower half-inch of the pod.

 Jayden63 wrote:
I have three of the original drop pods for my Space Wolves. The build hate they got is massively exaggerated. As with all things, the first kit attempted was the most challenging as expected, but not overly difficult especially if you had any sort of history building GW tank kits. The next two to five pods all went together much easier after the first, because you knew what you were doing and where to put the glue.

However having said that.... Pods two through 5 were one of the most tedious, ohh my god what was I thinking, painting project I've ever engaged in. You have to paint the exact same thing 5 times for each pod. EACH pod. I got so sick of painting door ramps, hose tubes, harnesses, exhaust vents, etc. that I never want to paint another one of those again. The nightmare still feels fresh 15 years later.