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Seems an odd thing to be angry about. A new model for Calgar wasn't necessary. I'm not going to buy it, and after deciding not to buy it, it ceases to have any effect on my life.

If GW decides that a new Aun'va will sell, the existence of an updated model for Calgar won't change the calculation on that either way.

Some people need to remember it’s just toy soldiers.

This isnt just toy soldiers when one of them, who got the Primaris treatment in 8th, does not need another sculpt!

 Asmodai wrote:
Seems an odd thing to be angry about. A new model for Calgar wasn't necessary. I'm not going to buy it, and after deciding not to buy it, it ceases to have any effect on my life.

If GW decides that a new Aun'va will sell, the existence of an updated model for Calgar won't change the calculation on that either way.

Well if that is how you view it, it is good. But imagine this point of view. You are a BA player and you think like this. Instead of designing BA models too look nice, turning DC in to a shoulder pad and removing wings or jump packs from Sang Priests, GW was working on another Calgar, more ultramarine units and special characters. And your codex came out this edition, so it is not like GW going to come and fix it with a second wave of releases. Or you are a GK player and wonder why your update was a upgrade sprue to NDK you already have probably max number you can take. An ultramarine player can say , well I already have a Calgar I don't need more, but a different faction of marines player can think that this could have been Karsaro on bike or Pedro Cantor.


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 RaptorusRex wrote:
Some people need to remember it’s just toy soldiers.

Toy soldiers cost 5$ for a box of 100.

 Crimson wrote:
Indeed. Quite unfortunate. We are back to garish overly blinged christmas trees.

Yeah, 40k looking like 40k is such a disappointment. It should really grow up and start looking more like Halo.

Tbh the rub for me with DE is "why now?"

There's nothing suggesting the DE release couldn't have dropped in a slightly less busy weekend in early 2024. Instead they've dragged it out until near the presumed end of the edition.

Space Marines are going to Space Marine. GW have long decided they should get 2 releases an edition - and they probably sell well so I don't really blame them for that. In some respects it probably speaks to GW's development cycle - because I assume this new Calgar got greenlit after the success of Space Marine 2 about a year ago.

 vipoid wrote:


Thus, if you are offering me an apology for the tone of your prior post, I am happy to accept it. I will likewise apologise if my response came across as overly angry/aggressive.

All good man- the break from forums yesterday did wonders for me. I finished my painting challenge- A Haemonculus, 5 Wracks, 5 Mandrakes and a Court of the Archon; most of it had already been completed, but I had three wracks that needed finishing, and the deadline was today, so staying away from forum posts was a good thing. I flubbed my last three painting challenges in a row, so this one was really important to me. I'll be posting the tale of the Crusade soon. Posting creative stuff is less contentious than rules debate.

Anyway, you my apology and I accept yours- peace man.

Tyel wrote:
Tbh the rub for me with DE is "why now?"

There's nothing suggesting the DE release couldn't have dropped in a slightly less busy weekend in early 2024. Instead they've dragged it out until near the presumed end of the edition.

Maybe GW was umming and ahhing over whether to release the bigger update for this edition or leave it for a later year, and delayed the release until after management made up their mind.

 PenitentJake wrote:

 vipoid wrote:


Thus, if you are offering me an apology for the tone of your prior post, I am happy to accept it. I will likewise apologise if my response came across as overly angry/aggressive.

All good man- the break from forums yesterday did wonders for me. I finished my painting challenge- A Haemonculus, 5 Wracks, 5 Mandrakes and a Court of the Archon; most of it had already been completed, but I had three wracks that needed finishing, and the deadline was today, so staying away from forum posts was a good thing. I flubbed my last three painting challenges in a row, so this one was really important to me. I'll be posting the tale of the Crusade soon. Posting creative stuff is less contentious than rules debate.

Anyway, you my apology and I accept yours- peace man.

Glad we're back on good terms.

Also cool to hear that you finished your painting challenge.

Though, a little sad that the models included the now-removed Court of the Archon. Hope you can find an alternative use for them.

Do you have any pics of your painted models?

Cato is cool, but I'd have liked a combi kit with helmet on and a sword in his right hand instead. Still a beautiful miniature.

New Calgar looks a lot more like his likeness in Space Marine 2. Which I imagine was intentional.

Honestly its fine? I guess. Not something I'd be interested in though.

So they heard you guys love marines. WH day commemorative mini:

My brain is only interpreting the Thunder Hammer as going for a jocular tap. I don’t know why.

Odd that they say that captain is not limeted, but joining the SM range. We just got a JP captain. Now this guy is significantly better looking then the old guy, just odd to have 2 in fairly recent times.

Are they silently letting Primaris die with this release?

We heard you like Smash Captains so here's another Captain with Jump Pack. No of course we couldn't have included these weapons in the other kit. BUY IT AGAIN!


Also: told you there were going to be Marine characters!

I don't mind the calgar thing knowing how the pipeline works, and that the modeling team gets 100% control over what gets made. It's not a financial thing, they just had something they wanted to make and were proud of it. The new victrix are a big improvement so hey, fine.

But man, I really wish they'd get the same desire to do named chaos marines. Iron Warriors, Word Bearers, and Night Lords have never had a named character. Alpha Legion only had a forgeworld one for Vraks. That leaves just Black Legion as a legion with any plastic named characters... and Red Corsairs as renegades.

I find yet another jump-captain annoying when they already have one with plenty of options.

 Astmeister wrote:
Are they silently letting Primaris die with this release?

You mean the distinction between Primaris and Firstborn? That effectively went away with the Codex, when they removed all the "Primaris" versions of the character models and made them the defaults for Captain, Librarian, Apothecary, etc.

Hmm, don’t really like the new Calgar…