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Dysartes wrote: Go with the simple explanation, GW, given I don't think there was ever an on-screen body to confirm the death.
The vessel he was on was caught in a warp eddy during the pursuit of Ghazghkull, so he didn't actually die - maybe someone's PR people decided for morale it might be better that it look like he did rather than he was AWOL, but now he's managed to return to Armageddon for the latest round of Yarrick vs. Ghazghkull (vs Angry Ron?)
Yes, this would be infinitely preferable to loyalist marines doing warp magic to raise the dead tbh.
Who says it's warp magic? The Wolf Priests are masters of medical science, kind of necessarily. They reconstructed Kaspar Hawser in 30k; who says they can't still?
The thing about 40k is that no one person can grasp the fullness of it.
IF they bother to explain it I doubt it'll be anything to do with the wolves and their apparently amazing resurrection superscience, it'll probably just be a "reports of my death were greatly exaggerated" situation
Let's face it there was basically a 0% chance he was going to stay dead, GW haven't killed off a named character with a model since Cadia fell have they? (And Yarrick doesn't have a suspiciously similar-looking daughter to take his place)
Oh I'm sure some poor soul is working on a novel right now.
And/or his favorite chat bot.
Justin Hill has done some really good Yarrick stories, including the one about Yarrick's escape/being allowed to escape. Hopefully he gets this one too.
IIRC, it used to be that Orks just made things operate more efficiently by believing they would.
So a vehicle that's painted red would go faster because the engine is working better than it should.
Their guns don't jam even though they are bad made because they believe their guns are well made.
Stuff like that. What doesn't happen is a rock turning into a nuke, because that just outright breaks the laws of physics and only daemons get to do that.
Then the fan base made a bunch of funny memes that took that concept and blew it out of proporation, then new people saw those memes and assumed it was fluff and started telling other people that to the point where most players believe that if enough orks believed that Khorne had IBS he'll never leave his throne or something absurd like that.
The point is, flanderization is bad, m'kay?
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A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
Then the fan base made a bunch of funny memes that took that concept and blew it out of proporation, then new people saw those memes and assumed it was fluff and started telling other people that to the point where most players believe that if enough orks believed that Khorne had IBS he'll never leave his throne or something absurd like that.
The point is, flanderization is bad, m'kay?
No no you're missing the orky beauty of it!
Ork tech works because orks believe it works because ork players believe that that's how orks believe ork tech works.
Charax wrote: (And Yarrick doesn't have a suspiciously similar-looking daughter to take his place)
It could be his bastard son SeaBasstian Yarrick. Who inherited his father's old power klaw, stormbolter and bale eye. And who also happens to be a Commissar (clearly didn't get his father's hat!).
It was never definitive. There was one fiction piece that was about a magos biologis who was experimenting on ork spores in limited circumstances. They did discover that something controlled the subspecies the spores developed into completely independently of the subspecies they were shed by. Thy couldn’t find any chemical signals to account for this so they postulated that it was a psychic effect. Then they spun that off into a whole mess of other “conclusions” based on, ironically, wishful thinking.
The same piece suggested that instead of the Magos’ crazy reality warping hypothesis, it was much more likely that Ork Meks just painted their fastest vehicles red, especially considering that they almost never created identical vehicles in the first place.
The internet just grabbed the wildest bits and ran with it and now you have people coming into the game whose only exposure to orks is through internet memes.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
for a lot of people the fluff is the only thing why 40k is even worth following
take that away and you only have expensive models and mediocre gaming rules with a fast turnover
if the fuff doesn't matter any more, there won't be anything left to stick with that game
Harry, bring this ring to Narnia or the Sith will take the Enterprise
for a lot of people the fluff is the only thing why 40k is even worth following
take that away and you only have expensive models and mediocre gaming rules with a fast turnover
if the fuff doesn't matter any more, there won't be anything left to stick with that game
Charax wrote: it'll probably just be a "reports of my death were greatly exaggerated" situation
I'd bet heavily on this.
Unless I'm missing some book I've never read, he was "killed" offscreen in the 9th edition codex, with no follow up lore impact.
Its easy just to have those reports be a mistake.
True but it would be more interesting, to me at leat, if the false death announcement was part of some sort of ploy. something about baiting out suspected cowards and traitors in the upper ranks or something.
"Three months? I'm going to go crazy …and I'm taking you with me!"
— Vala Mal Doran
for a lot of people the fluff is the only thing why 40k is even worth following
take that away and you only have expensive models and mediocre gaming rules with a fast turnover
if the fuff doesn't matter any more, there won't be anything left to stick with that game
What is cool about the fluff is the tone and themes, not the details; those have never made sense. Granted, they have also been destroying the themes in recent years. But ultimately it is tie-in fiction for toy soldiers.
RaptorusRex wrote: Who says it's warp magic? The Wolf Priests are masters of medical science, kind of necessarily. They reconstructed Kaspar Hawser in 30k; who says they can't still?
Maybe he's master spy John Grammaticus impersonating Yarrick...
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote: Or his death is just another Administraum error. The shortest answer can be the funniest.
He's Vulkan?
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age." "Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?" "Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
for a lot of people the fluff is the only thing why 40k is even worth following
take that away and you only have expensive models and mediocre gaming rules with a fast turnover
if the fuff doesn't matter any more, there won't be anything left to stick with that game
What is cool about the fluff is the tone and themes, not the details; those have never made sense. Granted, they have also been destroying the themes in recent years. But ultimately it is tie-in fiction for toy soldiers.
This. In-universe history, myth, legends, religions. Those are all great. They make a world feel rich and like a real place. Broad strokes of the past and present, enough to make your imagination kick in to find connections on your own, and come up with your own stories.
Lore is not that. Lore is when nerds take those and argue about what is absolutely true and "canon" and homogenise the setting so it can fit onto a wiki. Where ever more mundane and minor details become the focus and no myth and legend is allowed any more, past events must have a canon way that they played out, down to the smallest detail.
The Laws of Thermodynamics:
1) You cannot win. 2) You cannot break even. 3) You cannot stop playing the game.
Colonel Flagg wrote:You think you're real smart. But you're not smart; you're dumb. Very dumb. But you've met your match in me.
CthuluIsSpy wrote: Gork / Mork would have to crash the party and RKO Angron as if it were a WWE cage match.
I would gladly pay for all the expansions if this happened.
I'd like to think that if the Emperor manifested as Jesus or Caesar and other civilization changing figures, Gork and Mork manifested as the Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan and other famous and legendary prize-fighters and wrestlers.
Because sometimes a god just wants to German suplex a dude, you know?
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
A Town Called Malus wrote: This. In-universe history, myth, legends, religions. Those are all great. They make a world feel rich and like a real place. Broad strokes of the past and present, enough to make your imagination kick in to find connections on your own, and come up with your own stories.
Lore is not that. Lore is when nerds take those and argue about what is absolutely true and "canon" and homogenise the setting so it can fit onto a wiki. Where ever more mundane and minor details become the focus and no myth and legend is allowed any more, past events must have a canon way that they played out, down to the smallest detail.
This is precisely my issue with the Horus Heresy game & novels. I liked how Rick Priestly set it up as "These myths are so old, we're not even sure if all of it us true." To paraphrase another Dakkanaut, "It went from Greek myths to now knowing Sanguinius's exact hairstyle at the Siege of Terra."
for a lot of people the fluff is the only thing why 40k is even worth following
take that away and you only have expensive models and mediocre gaming rules with a fast turnover
if the fuff doesn't matter any more, there won't be anything left to stick with that game
What is cool about the fluff is the tone and themes, not the details; those have never made sense. Granted, they have also been destroying the themes in recent years. But ultimately it is tie-in fiction for toy soldiers.
True. Even in the good old days, the details were pretty much always lame and cliche. Pretty much all rivalities ended up with both characters killing each other. Though to be honest this turn toward "comic book characters that never dies" is a new low for GW
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/519978.page#6525039
Seems fine to me. Krieg was originally a paint scheme for Steel Legion, so doing it in reverse makes perfect sense. And they basically have the same vibe anyway.
Commodus Leitdorf Paints all of the Things!! The Breaking of the Averholme: An AoS Adventure
"We have clearly reached the point where only rampant and unchecked stabbing can save us." -Black Mage
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