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How do!

And that’s the contracts officially signed.

Read all about it

Henry Cavill remains on board, and we’re told 2-3 years normally before such things bear fruit.

I for one am hype!

First show, 4 hours of a shirtless Henry Cavill painting Custodeus!

GW has finally found a way to break into the women's market!

I can’t guarantee even I wouldn’t watch that.

Interesting given Valraks latest intel about the deal, either it wasn't right or they fixed the contract super fast.

GW wrote:All we can tell you right now is that an elite band of screenwriters, each with their own particular passion for Warhammer, is being assembled to help bring the setting and characters you love to the screen.

Good one. I haven't read "top men" phrasing a very long time.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
First show, 4 hours of a shirtless Henry Cavill painting Custodeus!

GW has finally found a way to break into the women's market!

I don't know about painting, but Henry Cavill is the perfect reason to make the movie/show historical and bring back bare-chested Custodes.

I wonder what this means for the future of Warhammer+? Going to be interesting to see what emerges.

I hope Henry can keep the content lore accurate, would be an absolute travesty if we get a watered down generic sci-fi end product. The fethed up, grim dark needs to be retained... even if that means alienating some potential customers.

Interesting. I read an article on one of the financial sites the other day saying it had all fallen through.
Looking forward to it, but it's so far in the future, I'll try and forget about it for a while.

 stonehorse wrote:
I wonder what this means for the future of Warhammer+? Going to be interesting to see what emerges.

I hope Henry can keep the content lore accurate, would be an absolute travesty if we get a watered down generic sci-fi end product. The fethed up, grim dark needs to be retained... even if that means alienating some potential customers.

Ah someone else saw the Mutant Chronicles movie I see...

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 stonehorse wrote:
I wonder what this means for the future of Warhammer+? Going to be interesting to see what emerges.

I hope Henry can keep the content lore accurate, would be an absolute travesty if we get a watered down generic sci-fi end product. The fethed up, grim dark needs to be retained... even if that means alienating some potential customers.

Ah someone else saw the Mutant Chronicles movie I see...

Nope, was never into that IP, but I have heard bad things about the film.

Dudeface wrote:
Interesting given Valraks latest intel about the deal, either it wasn't right or they fixed the contract super fast.

A lot of Valrak's info he gets second hand off other sources (I've seen some of his supposed 'leaks' appear on here hours before he announces them), probably just a case of him not properly authenticating whatever rumour he heard.

As for the deal I remain cautiously optimistic, lets see what happens. Can't be any worse than what they did to The Witcher after S1 and it seems like Cavill has learned his lesson by putting himself in creative control.

 stonehorse wrote:
I wonder what this means for the future of Warhammer+? Going to be interesting to see what emerges.

I hope Henry can keep the content lore accurate, would be an absolute travesty if we get a watered down generic sci-fi end product. The fethed up, grim dark needs to be retained... even if that means alienating some potential customers.

Warhammer+ was a test bed to see if Warhammer shows were marketable/profitable and despite what naysayers will have you believe, that's exactly what it's proven. On a tiny budget, GW broke even, in a time when streaming sites are really struggling to do even that.

I don't doubt that it was a requirement to prove to potential investors that making any Warhammer content was viable.

Warhammer+ will undoubtedly stay, my money is on the first round of shows being available on Amazon Plus with new shows exclusive to Warhammer+ before finding their way there. Or, WarhammerTV might be available at some point via Amazon Prime, much like channels like Shudder are.

Well... this can really only go one of two ways. And one of those ways is "Rings of Power".

As always: Be careful what you wish for.

StraightSilver wrote:
On a tiny budget, GW broke even, in a time when streaming sites are really struggling to do even that.

They offered exclusive miniatures and it's not as if they were spending a fraction of the money on productions than any real streaming service actually is. And comparing them to even smaller streamers like Peacock and making it out like W+ is some sort of winner in that market is laughable. More people have unsubscribed from D+ in the time W+ has been running than have ever subscribed to W+.

I think WH+ was also GW figuring out what sort of translation they’d actually be happy with.

Because that I think is an important question when it comes to any IP, and if you yourself can’t answer it, can you properly protect your IP?

I guess there’s also the question of what makes a given Rating. I’ve read opinions of unknown accuracy that you can still get a family friendly rating if you have some swears and messy deaths, provided it’s mostly implied.

So if going for a cinematic release? We may be treated to a single “and this is what a Bolter does to the human body” type shot, with the rest being neatly off-screen, or if blowing away say, Genestealer Cultists, purple rather than red blood.

You can have lots of violence and zero blood and still get a PG-13 rating. You can have every gak in the world, but as long as no one says 'feth' more than once, you're golden.

Ratings are stupid.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
You can have lots of violence and zero blood and still get a PG-13 rating. You can have every gak in the world, but as long as no one says 'feth' more than once, you're golden.

Ratings are stupid.

derived by the American market mostly, all the violence, blood and gore you like because *waves flag*! but Gork forbid a nipple is seen

only real question is will they hire enough English actors to be the bad guys?

Necromunda or one of the Warhammer Quests stories would probably be a good starting point.

Blackstone Fortress has that "Moria in space" feel to it, and even has it's own "Balrog" in the form of the Ambull. Necromunda immediately brings Doctor Who's Paradise Towers and Happiness Patrol to mind, and is a place for many interesting stories; maybe a travelling troupe of Harlequins are performing for a noble but they're really in town for their own agenda.

This way they wouldn't have to start off in the large-scale wars and keep things manageable until the greater cinema audience becomes more familiar with the Warhammer thing.

only real question is will they hire enough English actors to be the bad guys?

Cavill is still on board, no?

Question is who'll play the good guys, given it's all Nottingham

there are no good guys in 40k

Dudeface wrote:
Interesting given Valraks latest intel about the deal, either it wasn't right or they fixed the contract super fast.

He was just wrong in this case. Valrak sources rumours, and in this case he just believed something that was (TBH fairly obviously) false.

 The Phazer wrote:

Dudeface wrote:
Interesting given Valraks latest intel about the deal, either it wasn't right or they fixed the contract super fast.

He was just wrong in this case. Valrak sources rumours, and in this case he just believed something that was (TBH fairly obviously) false.

To give the guy fair credit, he did state he wasn't sure he believed it either and wasn't even going to report it but had similar statement from 2 sources. He at no point peddled it as fact.

I'm glad that Amazon haven't produced any major adaptations which have absolutely bombed recently...

I'm sure GW went into this with the eye to protect its IP. The sky is not falling...yet.

SamusDrake wrote:
Necromunda or one of the Warhammer Quests stories would probably be a good starting point.

Blackstone Fortress has that "Moria in space" feel to it, and even has it's own "Balrog" in the form of the Ambull. Necromunda immediately brings Doctor Who's Paradise Towers and Happiness Patrol to mind, and is a place for many interesting stories; maybe a travelling troupe of Harlequins are performing for a noble but they're really in town for their own agenda.

This way they wouldn't have to start off in the large-scale wars and keep things manageable until the greater cinema audience becomes more familiar with the Warhammer thing.

Budgetary considerations aside, I don't know if that's desirable to GW. I'll draw a comparison to Black Library. Initially we got Imperium-centric bolter porn as the main fare. It took many years before Xenos perspectives were added, and similarly for crime and horror to emerge as book categories.

If I were a betting man I'd say GW wants to lead with a big spectacle featuring their most recognizable property to wow people and satisfying their core fans before they branch out into more specific or niche things.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
I'm glad that Amazon haven't produced any major adaptations which have absolutely bombed recently...

Not necessarily an unfair observation, but a somewhat myopic one. American Gods, Invincible, The Boys, Jack Reacher, Good Omens all stand testament that just as Rings of Power can prove Amazon can get it a bit wrong*, they can also get it pretty much spot on.

*I enjoyed it well enough. Regardless of what it may or may not have done to the source material, it was still a well made bit of Fantasy silliness.

 Geifer wrote:

SamusDrake wrote:
Necromunda or one of the Warhammer Quests stories would probably be a good starting point.

Blackstone Fortress has that "Moria in space" feel to it, and even has it's own "Balrog" in the form of the Ambull. Necromunda immediately brings Doctor Who's Paradise Towers and Happiness Patrol to mind, and is a place for many interesting stories; maybe a travelling troupe of Harlequins are performing for a noble but they're really in town for their own agenda.

This way they wouldn't have to start off in the large-scale wars and keep things manageable until the greater cinema audience becomes more familiar with the Warhammer thing.

Budgetary considerations aside, I don't know if that's desirable to GW. I'll draw a comparison to Black Library. Initially we got Imperium-centric bolter porn as the main fare. It took many years before Xenos perspectives were added, and similarly for crime and horror to emerge as book categories.

If I were a betting man I'd say GW wants to lead with a big spectacle featuring their most recognizable property to wow people and satisfying their core fans before they branch out into more specific or niche things.

Yeah.

Marines are going to be in it pretty much certainly. Even if not as main cast somehow they will be featured heavily.

Any idea that doesn't involve heavy marine combat at least at some point is not going to be it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well... this can really only go one of two ways. And one of those ways is "Rings of Power".

As always: Be careful what you wish for.

Ironically, I would consider that a best case scenario. It could go like Wheel of Time.

 Scottywan82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Well... this can really only go one of two ways. And one of those ways is "Rings of Power".

As always: Be careful what you wish for.

Ironically, I would consider that a best case scenario. It could go like Wheel of Time.

Im being positive here until I see evidence to push me the other way.

It could be as good at The Expanse, Reacher etc etc.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
Interesting. I read an article on one of the financial sites the other day saying it had all fallen through.
Looking forward to it, but it's so far in the future, I'll try and forget about it for a while.

I saw something similar pass me by on twitter about how the GW exec in charge fluffed up the fine print of the contracts with Amazon, but it was a dodgy source, so it looks like that wasn't true after all.

i'll be interested to see what eventually appears,

I actually think the biggest risk is that it does do (very) well and ends up prompting a big (US) company with a huge checkbook like Hasbro/Disney etc trying a takeover of GW and then blandificating it (even more) to try and make it appeal to the mainstream

Thing is, theoretically if this is successful, it’ll raise GW’s stock price. Which is already considerable. £99.25 is the at-time-of-typing-price. And there are apparently 32,950,000 shares out there.

To even buy a 10% stake? That’s like….a lot of money. A lot a lot. £327,028,750 if my maths is correct. And generally in making a takeover bid, it seems you pay over the current price.

Now, what percentage makes an owning share? Absolutely no clue. And it’s all on the betting you can make that money back, and more, when you’ve taken it over. Which given GW is something of a unique beast, is by no means guaranteed.