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More updates, (potentially) more delays...

https://gamefound.com/en/projects/mwg--wargames-atlantic/the-damned/updates/91

Don't worry we fixed it!
So this is somewhat embarasing but you're in this too - there's only one power backpack on the main Heavy Infantry sprue! We don't know how it happened and nobody called it out for months but here we are. We realized last month the set wasn't complete without enough backpacks to hook the tubes into. So we had to quickly tool up some backpacks and here they are.

Production has already finished in the UK and they are hitting the warehouse later this week. The US production on these will take place as soon as we get the mold over from the UK.

So slainte we're sorry about the mess up but fixing it now!

So much for getting my pledge this year.

Another snafu on The Damned is rather upsetting.

 RustyNumber wrote:
I suggested the generic "battlefield terrain sprue" tank traps, sandbags, barrels, supply crates all nice and generic in a handy multipack.

That's already going to be in the Marcher starter.
https://gamefound.com/en/projects/golden-dragon-games-inc/marcher-empires-at-war-first-edition?ref=project-advert-banner_marcher-empires-at-war-first-edition

 Ohman wrote:
The 10mm English and French Agincourt-armies have been released. Looking so good my suggestion for the competition is that they do War of the Roses infantry in 10mm.

On sale in much bigger army-packs compared to other 10mm releases:

https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/grand-battle-scale/products/azincourt-english-army
https://wargamesatlantic.com/collections/grand-battle-scale/products/azincourt-french-army

Spoiler:

Wow those are a lot of minis. Going to check the price at my FLGS...

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Spoiler:

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

 ritualnet wrote:


That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

IIRC, a mutations sprue might have been one of the stretch goals that wasn't reached? I'm not even doing a Chaos force and I'd have had a sprue or two just for general conversions. Luckily my bits box has a fair amount of mutant-ish bits and lots of CCW in it, but a proper sprue would be such a useful addition and so many folks have asked about one over the years.

Another set worth looking at if you're ok with more heavily armored Beastmen is "Frostgrave Demons"

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15222





Only one major style of Beastman head and not the animal varieties that I like, but there's enough to do the whole set as beastmen and lots of weapon options. Between the two kits you could probably mix and match and make nicely varried light and Heavy Beastman units.

You could also separate out some of the less beasty torsos to make chaos warriors.

Many people have raised the idea of a mutations sprue, and it was an option that WGA put to a vote during the Damned campaign, but of course it lost to Heavy Infantry. (Not what I'd call a fair competition, putting a kitbashing mod kit up against an essential core unit.) They should have made both.

Here's the WIP of the mutation sprue that WGA showed at the time (as applied to standard male Damned troopers):



I'd like a lot more variety than this WIP shows, but I'd certainly buy the complete version, and I still think a mutation sprue like this is a great idea. Note that they made the mutations so they'd fit in with fantasy as well as they do with sci-fi.

One objection the last time I brought it up was that mutations can look silly or cartoonish (I don't remember the exact turn of phrase,) but I don't really think that's an issue. GW's chaos mutants have always been partly absurd, since their mutations are based on sin and dark magic rather than genetics. That said, 'proper' sci-fi mutants frequently look a bit silly as well - The Thing (not technically a mutant, but it was essentially always mutating) grew a mouth in its stomach, which was horrific and one of Carpenter's most famous gruesome moments, but it (not to mention the equally memorable walking spider head) was also a bit ridiculous, even wryly humorous. And how many variations on tentacled humans have you seen over the course of your sci-fi geekhood? Why are tentacles (rather than, say, beaks) considered the most probable mutations by so many sci-fi properties? Basically because they look cool. Miniature mutants have always been a bit silly, and gamers nevertheless love them, warts and all.

I'm basically of the opinion that you can never have too many options for mutations, so a mutation sprue would be an easy sell to me. I'd happily buy 20 completely different mutation sprues.

And yes, you can 3-D print mutation options, but that's not really saying anything. You can 3-D print your entire miniature collection these days, but enough people still prefer polystyrene's ease of use, higher durability, and lesser toxicity that traditional miniature manufacturers are still in business.

As long as the quality and variety of a hard plastic mutation sprue were done well, I think it would sell. In WGA's case, the existence of the Damned line of products even gives it an immediate context. I bet there'd be plenty of Damned buyers (not to mention kitbashers of other lines) who'd like to add variety to their troopers and beastmen with some choice mutations.

I mean, if they have now tanks on the table, chances are that the damned become quite popular, so maybee they will revisit the Mutant sprue.

Not Online!!! wrote:
I mean, if they have no tanks on the table, chances are that the damned become quite popular, so maybee they will revisit the Mutant sprue.

I keep hoping so and that the kit would allow Spawn sized mutants as well, similar to how the WGA Harvesters

The Damned mutation tentacles at least look better than the ones on the Weird War upgrade sprue. Those are terrible. Agree that tentacles are way over-done though.

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:


That is nice! I've only just seen this as I wasn't looking at the damned stuff much!
A mutations sprue with a few bodies, different heads, and arms etc, would make that into a really nice kit for fantasy and sci-fi!

...

Another set worth looking at if you're ok with more heavily armored Beastmen is "Frostgrave Demons"

https://www.northstarfigures.com/prod.php?prod=15222





Only one major style of Beastman head and not the animal varieties that I like, but there's enough to do the whole set as beastmen and lots of weapon options. Between the two kits you could probably mix and match and make nicely varried light and Heavy Beastman units.

You could also separate out some of the less beasty torsos to make chaos warriors.

Just a note for others considering using the Frostgrave Demons kit:

The arms are very very short and I don't think they will look good on normal size miniatures. They do make for terrific evil dwarf arms though, which is what I've used them for.

I always liked the Weta Hobbit Goblins



For a fairly realistic take on morlocks/mutants

I'd be interested in a bespoke mutant kit (with lots of extra compatible bits) rather than a mutant upgrade sprue. Hunchbacks, tumors, misshapen limbs, rags, you get the idea.

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

how did I miss those?

What's the manufacturer?

SU-152 wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

 ritualnet wrote:
Modular Beast-men. Like the classic Warhammer books, where they were different creatures and mutations. Throw in both modern and fantasy arms too so they can fit into most people's games.

Interstingly the "The Damned" Beastmen, actually fit this pretty well. Not much in terms of mutations, but the sprue includes a variety ofnon-sci-fi beastmen animal head types and options for hands with CCWs. Also, their armor/shirts are as suitable for fantasy as sci-fi.

Could really be spiced up with an additional sprue of arms, sheilds, weapons and mutations though...

I deliberately ordered some of these with the intention of doing them as fantasy troops. I'll probably add a few bits and pieces from my bits library though.

how did I miss those?

What's the manufacturer?

They're the Beastmen kit from "The Damned" crowd fund campaign. I imagine they'll hit retail next year after backer fulfillment completes.

I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

 rosafari wrote:
I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

That's a fantastic idea!

 Eilif wrote:

 rosafari wrote:
I’m hopeful the Damned beastmen will play nicely with the Frostgrave Gnoll sprue (possibly a closer match than the demons) between them should be able to make some feral beasts.

That's a fantastic idea!

I hadn't thought about the Gnolls but that's a good call. That just makes me want the mutations even more.