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Have they shown sprues for Skaven Tide yet?

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
Have they shown sprues for Skaven Tide yet?

I don't think so.

Pre-order freebies:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/17/pre-order-skaventide-and-get-one-of-these-awesome-rewards/

Objective tokens look very nice. And just a touch of support for third parties.

The journal is nice, but the GW only stuff is the stuff people will really want.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Asterism's are interesting. Pick a guaranteed ability to build around, but also plan using an unlock-able sub ability.

Also the Slann's "Nope" for dispelling at any range is amusing.

Definite fan of Asterisms. Greatly rewards planning, and being able to pick at deployment rather than army construction is useful.

so, no way to get both the coins and tokens without buying two boxes? Seems like a good way to drive up sales.

NGL, the Lizardmen Battle Traits feel like the best we've seen out of everything spoiled so far.

Almost makes me want to start an army.

Loot Group is sticking to our usual pre-order pricing of 20% of boxed set RRP. This is because by ordering from GW direct, you’re giving up any potential online discount. So our 20% price makes up for that, should someone wish to do those without local stories a solid, without them missing out on a saving.

I’m gonna have to think carefully. With my Hobby Odyssey now starting to clear out my Necromunda backlog, then coming on to HeroQuest, I’m not sure I can be arsed with a third GW game being added.

 rybackstun wrote:
NGL, the Lizardmen Battle Traits feel like the best we've seen out of everything spoiled so far.

Almost makes me want to start an army.

Huh, I thought they were amongst the weakest and blandest so far, +2 move is the only one that's good and that's your whole Trait, no teleports, no respawning, nothing interesting.

Seriously? You don't see the ability to add crits or bump up casting as useful over the whole game?

Useful yes, but not "this is literally the only thing I get for being this faction" good.

Well fortunately you've got the whole other part about unlocking the second ability mid-game.

I like the fact you can choose at deployment,
means I can adapt to the opponent AND scenario

I like the idea of my Kroxigar moving 7" to swarm forward, if I need to crush the opponent,
Or take the -1 rend if I am holding back...

I've been having fun running my guys in our store Path to Glory campaign,

 lord_blackfang wrote:
Useful yes, but not "this is literally the only thing I get for being this faction" good.

I think you're not really taking into account the flexibility of the abilities and the fact that it can actually be useful for the various builds the army has. Yes, the +2 movement is the most overall useful choice, but the others really lend themselves to building into them, which is something I feel the rest of the Faction Abilities shown don't really do.

Have they announced if the Spearhead rules and cards and boards etc are going to be available separately yet? Don't really need the whole launch box but I want that stuff.

They will be. Probably when the full regular release happens.

Slaves:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/18/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-slaves-to-darkness/

Eye of the Gods seems fun, especially that it stacks.

So Spearhead Chaos Warriors warscroll gives only halberds as a weapon option, and at the same time shows a warrior armed with a sword.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So Spearhead Chaos Warriors warscroll gives only halberds as a weapon option, and at the same time shows a warrior armed with a sword.

They've generally gotten rid of weapon options, so this is pretty normal.

My impression is that GW wants to simplify the game but also create more niches for more models and one way to do that is take units that have multiple weapons and cut them down to one weapon. Then you can release another model for the other weapon types.

We've seen the same in 40K.

It has upsides and downsides - the upside is that it does generally mean that GW can add more units to the game without them tripping over each other or having one outright better all the time every time.

 Overread wrote:
My impression is that GW wants to simplify the game but also create more niches for more models and one way to do that is take units that have multiple weapons and cut them down to one weapon. Then you can release another model for the other weapon types.

We've seen the same in 40K.

It has upsides and downsides - the upside is that it does generally mean that GW can add more units to the game without them tripping over each other or having one outright better all the time every time.

Yeah, pretty much this. I feel like it's less of an issue for AoS than it is for 40K, as loadouts are already pretty static, with basically one choice between weapons at most (Excepting Stormfiend Georg, who picks between from 100 weapons a day. He is an outlier and should not have been counted). If units do get split up, it also frees up some design space to give them more interesting and thematic abilities to go with said weapons as well.

Laughing Man wrote:

 Shadow Walker wrote:
So Spearhead Chaos Warriors warscroll gives only halberds as a weapon option, and at the same time shows a warrior armed with a sword.

They've generally gotten rid of weapon options, so this is pretty normal.

Yeah, I get it but why not do it like for ghouls where Crypt Guard has both weapons under one name?

Billicus wrote:
Have they announced if the Spearhead rules and cards and boards etc are going to be available separately yet? Don't really need the whole launch box but I want that stuff.

They will more than likely sell them as a bundle not long after release, but I suspect you will be able to pick them up really cheap a day after release.

A lot of old world folk are going to be picking the set up for the skaven alone.

I'll give the spearhead book a flick through but the cards and boards are likely to be chucked in my groups 'charity gak box', as once again we are sticking with earlier versions.

Anyone wanting the rules/gubbinz will find them easy enough, its the models most people are going to be after!

A "lot" of people are going to be unhappy if they shell out that sort of money for an army that's going to be unplayable sooner rather than later.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
A "lot" of people are going to be unhappy if they shell out that sort of money for an army that's going to be unplayable sooner rather than later.

Really? The speed they are releasing books, its going to take 2-3 years before we see the basic 9 armies even close to 'complete'. Let alone anything new (unless they do a full blown necromunda and stop releasing rules in the current format before restarting a new format) so chances are they won't change the pity PDF rules in that time either.

Though if anyone is worried about them changing rules and still buying models based on that knowledge of past GW, then really they should be in a different hobby at this point. Nothing is unplayable unless you really are buying into the stupid marketing ploys.

Buy things you like, play older editions, and stop letting GW boss you about.

I'm buying the set for the skaven and they'll still be on played as long as I can manage to physically put them on the table. I really couldn't care what rules GW put out. There is always 6th Edition or other games to play with them.

Wonder whether I'll be able to use a Daemon Prince with the Maggotkin Spearhead I bought. Really hope so

Ironjawz https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/19/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-ironjawz/

Obviously this is scripted to make all the abilities come up at least once, but probably still a decent representation of gameplay.

And the gameplay looks good to me, a fine balance of consistent core mechanics and some fun exceptions. I'm just really not enjoying the completely abstract progressive scoring. It's fiddly and gamey and doesn't make it feel like they're fighting for anything, it looks like two forces just running around trying to catch victory coins as they shower down from the sky.

 Shadow Walker wrote:
Ironjawz https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/06/19/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-faction-focus-ironjawz/

Simple but effective. Biggus piggus still rules overall however.