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 Shadow Walker wrote:
So new Prosecutors are more stable than old ones.

To the surprise of... no one. I never had any of the old ones, but they looked extremely flimsy and very top heavy. New ones look better too although the old ones were cool enough at the time.

Spot on. I've had to re-glue the spikes a few times and the whole thing wobbles quite a bit, so the new sculpts look more practical.

So much better than the previous ones. And it's a great moment to find pieces parted out. Just managed to get 20 extra Liberators for £20.

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Nope, they officially move Legends on June 1, 2025. Ditto the Sacroscant Chamber and Beastmen.

Umm, still means you have the rules for this edition?

New App https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/15/download-the-new-warhammer-age-of-sigmar-app-now-alongside-legends-rules-and-more/

Wow Legends pdf looks to be head and shoulders above normal Legends quality, and I'd say Legends units are "aggressively costed" across the board. The Warcry/Underworlds warbands especially look interesting, a lot of them offer strong and cheap wizards inside a unit of bullet catchers, which is not a thing in the core warscrolls.

Dicking around with it and it actually seems extremely well made. I'm genuinely surprised. You even have an option to tab the lore on and off. Shame they're going to charge for it, but i have to give props to it so far.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/07/15/warhammer-age-of-sigmar-starter-sets-begin-your-conquest-of-the-mortal-realms/

New starter sets

For those who're interested, this is Skaventide minus a frame of 5x Liberators, the Reclusiarchs & Memorians, Knight-Questor and the Lord-Terminos(all are on a single frame so will likely be the 'big bundle' item for Stormcast this release) for the Stormcast and the Ratling Warpblaster, Jezzails, and 20 Clanrats for the Skaven side.

It even includes the Spearhead book for "Fire and Jade" with all of the faction Spearheads in it.

Hm, i wonder if Fire and Jade is going to be locked into that.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Hm, i wonder if Fire and Jade is going to be locked into that.

Probably. The Spearhead thing didn't have it.

 Kanluwen wrote:

For those who're interested, this is Skaventide minus the Reclusiarchs and the Lord-Terminos for the Stormcast and the Ratling Warpblaster & 20 Clanrats for the Skaven side.

It even includes the Spearhead book for "Fire and Jade" with all of the faction Spearheads in it.

Not quite, the Stormcast are also minus 5 Liberators and the Conan like hero character whilst the Skaven the 3 Jezzails compared to Skaventide. It's 37 minis vs 74 in Skaventide. If it follows the 40k model it will be £130 vs £160 so Skaventide still represents a far better deal IMO.

Yeah, the Knight-Questor's easy to forget(it's on the Reclusiarch and Lord-Terminos frame) and I'm having to do counting while sleep-deprived. Cut me some slack!

Hehe, no shade intended Kan. Aye the Questor, that's the one. I always think the mid tier starter box represents a pretty decent deal.

I forget on the 40k side was Leviathan literally half the amount of minis vs the Ultimate Starter? At least that one had terrain in the starter and none in Leviathan. The AOS ones both have the same terrain.

Stop trying to make me do math!

I want to say that Leviathan to the 40k starters was a similar jump. The Marine Combat Patrol is a single thing of Infernus, Terminators, Terminator Captain, and the Terminator Librarian. It was missing the stuff on a single sprue(Sternguard, Lt with Combi, Apothecary Biologis), I want to say an extra frame of Infernus, and the Dreadnought.

I like them. Now, will the prices be similar to Leviathan ones?

 Kanluwen wrote:
Stop trying to make me do math!

I want to say that Leviathan to the 40k starters was a similar jump. The Marine Combat Patrol is a single thing of Infernus, Terminators, Terminator Captain, and the Terminator Librarian. It was missing the stuff on a single sprue(Sternguard, Lt with Combi, Apothecary Biologis), I want to say an extra frame of Infernus, and the Dreadnought.

Leviathan was 72 minis vs the Ultimate starter's 44 minis (plus terrain). I guess the main difference being the absence of bigger minis like the Ballistus and Screamer Killer, there is really nothing of that kind of size in Skaventide and the 2 big character models are both in the AOS Ultimate Starter.

Great question on price Shadow Walker, we will have to wait and see. At least now theses have been unveiled anyone sitting on the fence can make a choice as there still seem to be plenty of Skaventide sets knocking about.

I caved over the weekend and grabbed a Skaventide for USD $210 shipped on ebay and felt pretty good about that for only wanting the Skeven minis and the books. Now I'm seeing multiple BIN listings for $199 or so. I can't believe Skaventide will end up like Dominion, but I'm surprised at the prices so far.

i'm just hoping that good skaventide prices continue into the fall, when i'll have the money on hand to pick up something like this again

Hmm, yeah I see skaventide being a more popular alternative to these boxes so long as it remains available. No jezzails is a big deal breaker as is the loss of half the clanrats IMO


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MongooseMatt wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Nope, they officially move Legends on June 1, 2025. Ditto the Sacroscant Chamber and Beastmen.

Umm, still means you have the rules for this edition?

Depends what you mean. This edition should last until 2027, so no you will not have the ability to use them competitively for this edition, just 1/rd of it, but those rules will still exist and be compatible if you dint care about tiers of officialdom etc

chaos0xomega wrote:
Hmm, yeah I see skaventide being a more popular alternative to these boxes so long as it remains available. No jezzails is a big deal breaker as is the loss of half the clanrats IMO


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MongooseMatt wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Nope, they officially move Legends on June 1, 2025. Ditto the Sacroscant Chamber and Beastmen.

Umm, still means you have the rules for this edition?

Depends what you mean. This edition should last until 2027, so no you will not have the ability to use them competitively for this edition, just 1/rd of it, but those rules will still exist and be compatible if you dint care about tiers of officialdom etc

Outside of tourney play? If you were willing to play vs 4e Beastmen on May 31st, you shouldn't have an issue playing against them come June 1st or later.

chaos0xomega wrote:
Hmm, yeah I see skaventide being a more popular alternative to these boxes so long as it remains available. No jezzails is a big deal breaker as is the loss of half the clanrats IMO


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MongooseMatt wrote:

 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Nope, they officially move Legends on June 1, 2025. Ditto the Sacroscant Chamber and Beastmen.

Umm, still means you have the rules for this edition?

Depends what you mean. This edition should last until 2027, so no you will not have the ability to use them competitively for this edition, just 1/rd of it, but those rules will still exist and be compatible if you dint care about tiers of officialdom etc

I suspect the legends rules will survive longer than just this edition, considering that the 1st edition legends rules lasted through 3rd, and they have similar lifespans in 40k

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i'm just hoping that good skaventide prices continue into the fall, when i'll have the money on hand to pick up something like this again

I expect prices to fall over the next week or two as people get stock and start parting out the half and rules that they don't want.

It's hard to predict if Skaven or Stormcast will end up overstocked compared to the other. My gut feeling is that Skaven will be the more popular of the two this edition and stock of their models will get eaten up quicker. Stormcast are in an odd spot because they lost a lot of models (which is going to cause a bunch of people to give them up or not be as hot to update); and most of what they got is replacements in new sculpt form. Meanwhile Skaven haven't had new sculpts for most of these models in decades so there is a LOT more likely demand for them.


After a few weeks I'd expect prices to start climbing. So over the next week or two is when I'd want to do any big buying.

 Overread wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i'm just hoping that good skaventide prices continue into the fall, when i'll have the money on hand to pick up something like this again

I expect prices to fall over the next week or two as people get stock and start parting out the half and rules that they don't want.

It's hard to predict if Skaven or Stormcast will end up overstocked compared to the other. My gut feeling is that Skaven will be the more popular of the two this edition and stock of their models will get eaten up quicker. Stormcast are in an odd spot because they lost a lot of models (which is going to cause a bunch of people to give them up or not be as hot to update); and most of what they got is replacements in new sculpt form. Meanwhile Skaven haven't had new sculpts for most of these models in decades so there is a LOT more likely demand for them.


After a few weeks I'd expect prices to start climbing. So over the next week or two is when I'd want to do any big buying.

quite unfortunately, the next week or two is also when I happen to be moving... I'll be prioritizing the stormcast stuff, tho, so I have a feeling I'll be able to get that (or maybe even two) once things settle down

 Overread wrote:

 StudentOfEtherium wrote:
i'm just hoping that good skaventide prices continue into the fall, when i'll have the money on hand to pick up something like this again

I expect prices to fall over the next week or two as people get stock and start parting out the half and rules that they don't want.

It's hard to predict if Skaven or Stormcast will end up overstocked compared to the other. My gut feeling is that Skaven will be the more popular of the two this edition and stock of their models will get eaten up quicker. Stormcast are in an odd spot because they lost a lot of models (which is going to cause a bunch of people to give them up or not be as hot to update); and most of what they got is replacements in new sculpt form. Meanwhile Skaven haven't had new sculpts for most of these models in decades so there is a LOT more likely demand for them.


After a few weeks I'd expect prices to start climbing. So over the next week or two is when I'd want to do any big buying.

I'd say it's about 50/50 at the moment in terms of popularity from what i've seen. But is the prime time for part outs. Managed to get 20 libs for £20 last night.

Yeah for the next week or two I'd not imagine you'd have any trouble getting hold of anything in most regions.


I just snagged a Jade+cards for £15 on ebay and honestly I could see it going for less. Rules are still in the £20 bracket so I'm going to see if that comes down a little, but even still that's a huge discount on what GW will charge for the rulebook anyway.

The Skaven halves are consistently priced higher than the Stormcast from what I've seen, usually around $125 vs $100.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
The Skaven halves are consistently priced higher than the Stormcast from what I've seen, usually around $125 vs $100.

Our local is doing $90 for each half.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
The Skaven halves are consistently priced higher than the Stormcast from what I've seen, usually around $125 vs $100.

I meant in terms of people trading and selling to each other, not general pricing.

 Prometheum5 wrote:
The Skaven halves are consistently priced higher than the Stormcast from what I've seen, usually around $125 vs $100.

Not really surprising. The Skaven half has more content than the Stormcast half. They have one extra unit. (10 vindicators cost the same as 20 hobgrots) and get a warmachine instead of one of their heroes.