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Yea same, why is everybody still trying to be Warmachine

 frankelee wrote:
Looks like it's time to dust off my Dust collection.

I wish whoever has access to the buildings from Dust would put them back out again. They were excellent, and could easily work in this setting too.

 Thargrim wrote:
https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/konflikt-47-reveals-uk-games-expo/?__s=ebau7ogt7uta84yinslg&utm_source=drip&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Konflikt+%2747+Reveals+from+UK+Games+Expo

Article drop, sounds good and all to me except the emphasis on heroes.....not into that at all.

Thanks for that!
Looks generally good. I'm excited about army lists being free and available on day one.

I'm also not wild about an emphasis on named heroes. The massive scope of WWW2 is part of it's appeal
and I'm not interested in narrowing it down to a few theaters of combat where some named heroes are operating.

A few other things.

1-The promotional pictures in the update show a rather large battle, but in my experience the original K47 was a medium scope game
that could bog down quickly at games much larger than a comple platoons per side were attempted. Anyone have experience enough to
know if the new Bolt Action rules ( that the new K47 is based on) handle larger engagements well?

I'd love it if it was larger scope (or just more streamlined) as a game with a bunch of mechs and tanks is very appealing.

2) The new German power armor troopers are pretty good...


but are they better than these?



And of course I really want to know more about this monster mech.


All and all the updated is promising. Hoping for more good news to come.

The monster mech has a plasma ball in it, so it's obviously a scratch build, I'm afraid.

I think the demo game at UKGE was just there as an advertisement/presentation for the game, to create excitement for the new game, I don't think you can infer about regular game format from it.

Character-wise Andy Chambers mentioned in an interview before about wanting to differentiate the game from regular BA, by giving the 'weird War 2' units more of the centre stage - apparently they were not this for 1st edition.
Perhaps special characters is one other way to do this? But hopefully it won't go overboard - no mecha-Hitler vs the psychic manifestation of Chrurchill in the starter set for example!

 lord_blackfang wrote:
The monster mech has a plasma ball in it, so it's obviously a scratch build, I'm afraid.

I assumed as much, but it'd be nice if there were rules for super-heavies or at least a scenario around such a thing.

I was interested in this but i expected more from the minis. Might as well play Wild West Exodus, Dystopian Wars and Armoured Clash for an alternative WW2 setting.

Sasorijap wrote:
I was interested in this but i expected more from the minis. Might as well play Wild West Exodus, Dystopian Wars and Armoured Clash for an alternative WW2 setting.

What about the minis do you not like? Are folks expecting more dynamic minis rather than the historical figures the game uses for it's core troops?

The other games you mention are all 1800s, 50+ years before WW2.

 Eilif wrote:

Sasorijap wrote:
I was interested in this but i expected more from the minis. Might as well play Wild West Exodus, Dystopian Wars and Armoured Clash for an alternative WW2 setting.

What about the minis do you not like? Are folks expecting more dynamic minis rather than the historical figures the game uses for it's core troops?

The other games you mention are all 1800s, 50+ years before WW2.

I do not speak for Sasorijap. I find these models to be very stiff. There are so many great options out in the wild for similar models, The German troops above look like they are impossible to move. The giant mech has a great concept, but otherwise, very little detail and clumsy.

Yea the Stahltruppen don't look like 2025 models.

Theophony wrote:

 Eilif wrote:

Sasorijap wrote:
I was interested in this but i expected more from the minis. Might as well play Wild West Exodus, Dystopian Wars and Armoured Clash for an alternative WW2 setting.

What about the minis do you not like? Are folks expecting more dynamic minis rather than the historical figures the game uses for it's core troops?

The other games you mention are all 1800s, 50+ years before WW2.

I do not speak for Sasorijap. I find these models to be very stiff. There are so many great options out in the wild for similar models, The German troops above look like they are impossible to move. The giant mech has a great concept, but otherwise, very little detail and clumsy.

lord_blackfang wrote:Yea the Stahltruppen don't look like 2025 models.

Interesting observations. I'm not denying that the models could possibly be better, but it does seem like what we're seeing may be folks desiring newer GW-style dynamism and greebling in models that were never intended to be that way.

I personally much prefer a less "in-action" pose for all my models. Partly just aesthetics, partly because they tend to be sturdier and easier to transport. I certainly am not a fan of the nearly mono-pose GW kits with many small parts.

K47 is an interesting case in that it's coming out of historical setting (where folks don't generally want dynamic poses) but it's trying to also appeal to sci-fi gamers for whom current games tend to feature more action-oriented sculpts.

As for the Giant mech, I think it's been established that it's a one-off custom piece and not a production model.

Big news: Pre-orders for the new release coming this Friday.
https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/incoming-konflikt-47/

Contents of the all-plastic starter set


Some cool artwork by Stef Kopinski (anyone know if they are any relation to Karl?)
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https://warlord-community.warlordgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/SK001_Konflikt-47-starter-set-scaled.png[/img]

Think those big armored germans will be in units of 3? Looking a bit one-sided if that's all there is. Not that that's a huge issue; if it's kept most of the list building from current K47 you can pad that out with cheap stuff very easily

 Pacific wrote:
Stef Kopinski (anyone know if they are any relation to Karl?)

Brothers. They worked together on some GW projects.

Karl has a GoFundMe for recovery from their stroke: https://www.gofundme.com/f/xahmmd-recovery-from-my-stroke

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New models look okay, but I really dislike the very flat bases with no height. Citadel style bases look better.

Thank you! Yes I did hear that news, very sad. A tremendous artist, not just his GW stuff he has produced some amazing work over the years.

Is there any possibility of updating the thread title so this can be a Konflikt '47 general news thread? I did have a look back through other threads and could not see one.

Renaming the thread would be ideal at this point.

Pre orders are now up though:

https://us.warlordgames.com/collections/konflikt-47/0725

Looks like they've designed unique transfer decals for the US and Axis, looks really cool.

Somewhat GW like price point tbh

The pricing definitely caught me by surprise, the starter armies pricing in particular. I think i'll skip ordering direct from warlord games, get that 20% discount elsewhere later in the year.

I can't say I like the German designs enough for those prices. I suppose I might change my mind if we got Nazi zombies in plastic this time around.

Third party discount is essential on warlord games these days.

How much of Warlord's stuff is available only from them, and therefore usually not at a discount?

My "FLGS" is eBay at this point in time, so I'm always looking for the best sellers of stuff at a consistent discount.

Yikes... those preorder prices will do no favors for building off of new edition momentum. Pricing these like premium models, when them look... fine... is an odd choice. At least Mantic etc, understand their position and make sure they keep a value proposition lead over GW.

I'd imagine they think they look good (otherwise why release them), and remember they're not making their own sprues, they'll be contract cast so the price has to cover another companies profit too

and i doubt there will be enough releases of other stuff to make an extra cheap starter box make sense (sadly)

Well, with that list Warlord has guaranteed that I'll be using other brands for any additions to my armies.

If I wanted to pay prices like that I'd go back to GW .

Bummer.

Warlord's prices are often excessive and hard to believe for their less mainline games, not at all competitive when you think of historical miniature prices. But I have big collections of Bolt Action, Blood Red Skies, and Judge Dredd stuff because Amazon and others sell their games at nearly 50% off (or more) from time to time.

For this I'd like to be able to use my Dust minis, I have enough for me and an opponent, or if I used my regular Bolt Action stuff, I'd mix in 3D printed minis from Kyoushuneko. It's just books and accessories that really matter.

Marcher is also doing Diesel Punk US Infantry through Wargames Atlantic.

frankelee wrote:Warlord's prices are often excessive and hard to believe for their less mainline games, not at all competitive when you think of historical miniature prices. But I have big collections of Bolt Action, Blood Red Skies, and Judge Dredd stuff because Amazon and others sell their games at nearly 50% off (or more) from time to time.

For this I'd like to be able to use my Dust minis, I have enough for me and an opponent, or if I used my regular Bolt Action stuff, I'd mix in 3D printed minis from Kyoushuneko. It's just books and accessories that really matter.

That's a good point. Several members of our club, including myself, got into K47 via half-off starter boxes. One guy via the collection of DUST he already had.

I'm interested to see how important the Rift Dice are and what the faces are. I did once pony up 20 bucks for a set of Bolt Action Dice, but never again. $30 is a non-Starter and I've probably got some MonPoc dice that would work.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:Marcher is also doing Diesel Punk US Infantry through Wargames Atlantic.

Those do look great, but I've already got more USA stuff than I need.

I am however very willing to add power packs for rifles and jump packs to the finished infantry figures in my US and Commonwealth forces depending on how important they are. If the basic troops are getting "Weirder" that is a good thing in my book.

The good guys' walker unit looks like the best model in the starter set to me, particularly if it is also cast in polystyrene rather than resin. It reminds me of some of Warzone's 2nd wave vehicles (in a good way.)

Weird war isn't really my genre, though. I find Dreamforge Eisenkern kits useful for kitbashing with other things, but much as I love the German language and German literature, fascist-looking German troops in any form just give me the heebie-jeebies. I have plenty of fun with sci-fi bad guy fascist forces like Stormtroopers and Space Marines, but most sci-fi Germans just hit too close to the mark for me.

I've always found Warlord's prices high. After Warlord stopped supporting Gates of Antares and GoA prices dropped significantly at online stores, I finally explored some of the line and picked up a number of what turned out to be really excellent models. While I find Gates of Antares miniatures uneven in design quality, I discovered that the good ones are really good. But I'm speaking as a nostalgic old person who likes metal and generally favors hand-sculpted minis (I bought Boromite and Ghar units that look as cool as anything I own) so I'm not talking about the quality of Gates of Antares plastic kits here. Looking at them, I always found the poses of GoA's Concord and Algoryn plastic models awkward and stilted in much the same way that the plastic troopers from the new Konflikt starter look to me now. Actually, it was generally the most dynamic plastic Algoryn poses that looked the most awkward. (Warlord's larger plastic Ghar battlesuit kits, while not up to GW hyper-detail standards, were and remain very cool, if a bit of a bitch to put the legs on, a slight flaw in their design.)

Which brings me to my final point, which is that I'm a little surprised Warlord is doing Konflikt '47 at all; after GoA and Doctor Who, I thought they were drifting away from doing any form of sci-fi outside of the Judge Dredd license? Weird war is, again, unfortunately the sci-fi niche I'm least interested in, but if future Konflikt units get weirder and better designed, there's a chance I'll pick up some isolated units in the future, particularly if they release some cool, armored and helmeted hard plastic Japanese space samurai. If they did a set like that really well, I'd even pay full Warlord prices for a box of those. (I've always had a weakness for full-helmeted space samurai, and there haven't been many - if any? - released in hard plastic.) But at Warlord's pricing rates, any Konflikt units would have to be damn good - i.e., matching or exceeding the best designed alternatives from competitors - to merit any direct buys from me. "Good enough" isn't good enough for premium pricing.

Best of luck to those of you who are excited for this line and will be supporting it, though. I'm very fond of some of Warlord's old GoA and Doctor Who models, know the company can do good work, and generally wish them well in what I know is a tough market that's only getting tougher. I'll see where Konflikt goes and might cherry-pick a few things in the future.