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2025/06/27 20:29:25
Subject: Re:Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
SamusDrake wrote: Looks like a much needed fresh start for the MCU, and I enjoyed the two 00s movies. So long as there isn't anything else on at the time I'll go and see it.
It comes out two weeks after the new Superman film here in the U.S.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/06/28 02:00:18
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
We're still hoping the hero of the story, Galactus, gets to have a good meal of the FF Earth and the FF have to flee to the MCU for survival, right? Galactus has been denied for to long a succulent Terran Meal!
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2025/06/28 05:04:42
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
On the Surface of the Sun aka Florida in the Summer.
Ahtman wrote: We're still hoping the hero of the story, Galactus, gets to have a good meal of the FF Earth and the FF have to flee to the MCU for survival, right? Galactus has been denied for to long a succulent Terran Meal!
Until he gets to the center of the planetary tootsie pop and finds one of his Celestial kindred.
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
A few less CGI shots and a few more practical effects is always nice to see.
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/07/20 16:17:42
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
I saw a trailer for this while going to see new Jurassic Park and I just started laughing because apparently I can't hear a movie is about 'family' anymore without imaging Vinny D walking into the shot and saying 'nothing's stronger than family.'
On the Surface of the Sun aka Florida in the Summer.
LordofHats wrote: I saw a trailer for this while going to see new Jurassic Park and I just started laughing because apparently I can't hear a movie is about 'family' anymore without imaging Vinny D walking into the shot and saying 'nothing's stronger than family.'
Fantastic 4 Fast 2 Furious... There's gold in this idea... they already have the Fantasticar...
Just needs some polishing...
I bet we can get Justin Lin to direct (He's the brains behind the fast/furious franchise style).
BorderCountess wrote: Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
Do you like popcorn? I mean do you REALLY like popcorn?...
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
2025/07/21 19:28:52
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
Don’t sit near anyone if you get the huge bucket, though.
I had a friend who would always buy the largest bucket of popcorn and then munch it and crunch it like some nightmarish metronome through the entire movie. It was maddening. No one wanted to sit next to him.
Not the best super hero movie you'll ever see, but its good to see a Marvel movie that takes itself more seriously and is thankfully a completely standalone film. The style is interesting and for the very mature comic fans in the audience, appreciated.
If coming in from another big screen incarnation of the F4, then it only reminds one of how they came to get their fantastic powers and it's pretty much straight on to the Galactus thing, with the Silver Surfer.
Okay, just a minor nitpick...
Spoiler:
Mole man and the underground society...felt like they could have been easily written out or just given a little more involvement.
Otherwise a decent super hero movie.
Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
2025/07/26 03:10:45
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
Solid 7/10 for me. Not amazing, not terrible, a fun adventure. I think the movie would have been a lot better if the Silver Surfer was the protagonist. The movie underused its most interesting character IMO.
I thought Galactus was well realized for the most part. The F4 had pretty good chemistry. The retro tech vibes was a nice touch to differentiate this from the main universe.
The bad...
Spoiler:
Biggest problem with this movie? They try to pack in too much stuff|/I] in 2 hours, with a lot of hand wavium to keep the story going.
Galactus captures their ship fairly easily, and then conveniently forgets how he did it when it comes time for them to escape.
Sue Storm convinces the world that giving up her baby is not an option [I]very easily. A little speech holding her kid and the hundreds of people storming the Baxter building suddenly back off and get on board with Reed's plan.
Which brings us to the absurdity of compressing a world wide science experiment to build teleportation towers all over the globe, a plot thread that's introduced and wrapped up in about 5 minutes. It takes some huge suspension of disbelief to sell the idea that everyone agrees this is the best thing to do.
Then, when that plan fails, Reed pulls yet another hail mary.
It's a little much.
Best parts of the movie IMO were Johnny's scenes with the silver surfer. Her flashbacks were fascinating and I really wanted to know more about how and why she served Galactus, but we don't get answers to those questions because she's very much a side character in this.
2025/07/27 01:14:20
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
Saw it with my wife and teenage daughters tonight. Everyone enjoyed it. We all agreed it felt refreshing compared to most of the Marvel content from the last few years.
2025/07/27 01:36:29
Subject: Re:Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
Pretty good movie. Pacing/timing is a bit wonky, but not really detrimental. Also, it’s only Barely a Super Hero movie. Like yeah, they have powers, but it’s not really about that.
2025/07/27 05:23:00
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
It felt like huge chunks of the movie, the chunks that establish the emotional tone and stakes, were cut out for time. Natasha Lyonne’s role in the finished film is hilariously truncated. The moral arguments between Reed and Sue seem to come out of nowhere for the drama, which makes it feel like their marriage is hanging by a thread the whole movie. Really made me think there was something to the old Sue/Namor memes. Felt like she had more chemistry with Mole Man. Ben Grimm was the best part of the movie, yet they cut his character arc down to a character chord. Johnny spent the first half of the movie feeling real punchable.
The plot structure may have been more tidy, but the film felt like a mess. There were a lot of parts that worked or should work, but they didn’t gel. In the end the film felt kind of dour, with the big payoff scenes missing the oomph to overcome the joyless set ups. With the forced moral quandary, misguided interpersonal dram, and the contrived resolution, F4 felt like what I’d expect from a season 2 Voyager episode based on Those Who Walk From Omelas. Except Voyager would have had some casualties.
My wife pointed out that the
Spoiler:
zero-g birth
scene should have had blood and gore all over the place. It should have looked horrifying. Instead we got something that was somehow played for maximum tension while also feeling Disney sanitized.
The soundtrack kicked ass, though. Too much ass. Some scenes felt a bit like someone blasting the Imperial March every time TeD from accounting entered the room.
There. Had to get that off my chest.
Overall, not the worst Marvel movie, but not the best this year, either.
Easy E wrote: Not the best this year? You ranked Thunderbolts as better?
I can tell from the previews that unless something comes way out of left field I'd definitely rank Thunderbolts over it. Thunderbolts is genuinely fun with solid character work and for the most part likable rogues. Unlike some I actually kinda enjoyed the Alba/Evans/Chikliss/whatever his name was FF. This one feels pretentious like they're trying to hard. Not that it'll be the worst Marvel movie or anything by a mile but partially because of the casting choices and partly because of the backdrop they set this one in has it doing nothing for me.
But if others love it then awesome. We don't need to love them all
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2025/07/29 02:06:32
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer
Eh, she's giving birth to Space God from a comic not known for gore or realism so "meh", though it certainly was silly. It does feel truncated from a longer version.
Spoiler:
Edit: Saw it pointed out elsewhere that Galactus triggered something to force the birth early, which would also account for why it was an odd birth.
My biggest concern was how they were going to do Galactus and I think, for the most part they did a good job.
Spoiler:
Galactus didn't forget how he captured them he was caught off guard when Johnny cut off his feeding hoses and by the time regained composure assumed his herald was handling it. That was my takeaway, anyway.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2025/07/29 03:32:41
Subject: Fantastic Four: First Steps - The Trailer After the Final Trailer