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2025/12/09 20:52:27
Subject: Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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They frontloading all the detachments? Would have though they would be paced better.
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2025/12/09 21:24:36
Subject: Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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Fixture of Dakka
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 Nevelon wrote:They frontloading all the detachments? Would have though they would be paced better.
I'm kind-of hoping that it means there will be some AoS detachment love coming soon, and then some model reveals.
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2025/12/09 21:39:56
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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The said tomorrow us the final Grotmas Detachment.
Boooooo!
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 BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/09 22:01:30
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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And it's (allegedly) Space Wolves, so double- Boooo!
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
  
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
DR:80S++G++M--B+IPwhfb01#+D+++A+++/fWD258R++T(D)DM+++
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2025/12/09 22:06:03
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Or Arrrroooooooooowww as the puppies say.
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2025/12/09 22:27:32
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 9 - Emperor's Children Detachment!
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2025/12/10 12:52:31
BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/10 12:55:06
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 - Grotmas Calendar Day 10 – Unleash the Great Wolf in a ferocious new Space Wol
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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The best present so far today wasn't grotmas, but the new Terminator Assault Marine Update.
Thunder Hammer upgraded from WS 4+ to WS 3+
Twin Lightning Claws attack count increased from 5 to 6
Terminatus Assault datasheet rule (each enemy unit in Engagement Range must take a Battle-shock test) now triggers at the start of every Fight phase, as opposed to each time they end a charge move.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2025/12/10 13:07:27
BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/10 13:33:10
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 - Grotmas Calendar Day 10 – Unleash the Great Wolf in a ferocious new Space Wol
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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 Lathe Biosas wrote:The best present so far today wasn't grotmas, but the new Terminator Assault Marine Update.
Thunder Hammer upgraded from WS 4+ to WS 3+
Twin Lightning Claws attack count increased from 5 to 6
Terminatus Assault datasheet rule (each enemy unit in Engagement Range must take a Battle-shock test) now triggers at the start of every Fight phase, as opposed to each time they end a charge move.
Nice. And can still mix freely in the squad.
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2025/12/10 13:50:43
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 - Grotmas Calendar Day 10 – Unleash the Great Wolf in a ferocious new Space Wol
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lathe Biosas wrote:The best present so far today wasn't grotmas, but the new Terminator Assault Marine Update.
Thunder Hammer upgraded from WS 4+ to WS 3+
Twin Lightning Claws attack count increased from 5 to 6
Terminatus Assault datasheet rule (each enemy unit in Engagement Range must take a Battle-shock test) now triggers at the start of every Fight phase, as opposed to each time they end a charge move.
Terminator's stats seem to inflate every time their models do. I remember back in 3rd edition when they had NO invulnerable save, 2 attacks, and one wound.
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2025/12/10 13:56:45
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 - Grotmas Calendar Day 10 – Unleash the Great Wolf in a ferocious new Space Wol
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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 cuda1179 wrote:
Terminator's stats seem to inflate every time their models do. I remember back in 3rd edition when they had NO invulnerable save, 2 attacks, and one wound.
Terminators have always been worse then normal marines in the disconnect between their lore/fluff and what they do on the tabletop. Well, maybe when they were making saves on 2d6. But for most of their lives they were just not worth the points. Things with good AP would just shoot through their armor. Basic small arms would spam shots until they rolled those 1s.
I think they are finally in a good place. The multi-wound versions from 8th+ has gone a long way to making them viable.
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2025/12/10 15:05:44
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 - Grotmas Calendar Day 10 – Unleash the Great Wolf in a ferocious new Space Wol
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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cuda1179 wrote: Lathe Biosas wrote:The best present so far today wasn't grotmas, but the new Terminator Assault Marine Update.
Thunder Hammer upgraded from WS 4+ to WS 3+
Twin Lightning Claws attack count increased from 5 to 6
Terminatus Assault datasheet rule (each enemy unit in Engagement Range must take a Battle-shock test) now triggers at the start of every Fight phase, as opposed to each time they end a charge move.
Terminator's stats seem to inflate every time their models do. I remember back in 3rd edition when they had NO invulnerable save, 2 attacks, and one wound.
Takes a lot to come back from 2nd ed's 3+ save on 2D6...
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2025/12/10 18:27:28
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 – Space Wolf Detachment!
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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Deathwatch Terminators didn't seem to get upgraded.
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/11 22:12:53
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 11 - How to Paint Traitors... meh.
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/12 15:45:09
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 11 - How to Paint Traitors... meh.
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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In today’s Grotmas Calendar entry, the heroes of Darkwater break free of the Jade Abbey and receive Legends rules for use in Warhammer Age of Sigmar.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/fgrfqfgy/grotmas-calendar-day-12-the-heroes-of-darkwater-bring-the-fight-to-the-mortal-realms/
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/12 15:51:37
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 – Space Wolf Detachment!
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Fixture of Dakka
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This happens all the time, though honestly I'm okay with it as long as they don't mess with the points.
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2025/12/12 23:13:13
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025: Day 10 – Space Wolf Detachment!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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 LunarSol wrote:
This happens all the time, though honestly I'm okay with it as long as they don't mess with the points.
For a unit like the Deathwatch Terminators, there needs to be a reason to decide between fists and hammers. Assault Terminators don't have that choice, and so don't have that problem.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
DR:80S++G++M--B+IPwhfb01#+D+++A+++/fWD258R++T(D)DM+++
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2025/12/13 17:44:13
Subject: Re:Grotmas 2025 Day 12: Heroes of Darkwater bring the fight to the Mortal Realms-New AoS Rules!
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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A present for BorderCountess! A story just for her!
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/azth2slu/grotmas-day-13-frostbitten-fiction-from-fenris/
Tomorrow’s entry is hopefully going to help warm us up, as we team up to play some fast and fun multiplayer games in the Mortal Realms.
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/13 18:11:50
Subject: Grotmas Day 13 – Frostbitten fiction from Fenris
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Are there dying Space Wolves? Because that would be my favorite part.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
DR:80S++G++M--B+IPwhfb01#+D+++A+++/fWD258R++T(D)DM+++
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2025/12/13 19:51:34
Subject: Grotmas Day 13 – Frostbitten fiction from Fenris
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
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A grotmas story from fenris must have the big white-bearded guy riding around in a sled right?
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2025/12/14 16:53:33
Subject: Re:Grotmas Day 13 – Frostbitten fiction from Fenris
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/14 18:29:23
Subject: Re:Grotmas Day 14 – Pair up and play Spearhead Doubles
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looking at the undercoated Nighthaunts...sigh...anyone for doubles?
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Casual gaming, mostly solo-coop these days.
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2025/12/14 20:13:26
Subject: Grotmas Day 14 – Pair up and play Spearhead Doubles
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Looks fun. Double boards, for more space. But all the “must control X objective” and such need to to control both.
The hard part would be finding 3 other people up for a game of spearhead.
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2025/12/15 15:19:24
Subject: Re:Grotmas Day 14 – Pair up and play Spearhead Doubles
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Inquisitorial Scourge of Heretics
Tapping the Glass at the Herpetarium
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Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/0iy721tt/grotmas-day-15-a-message-from-within-the-eye/
Next on the Grotmas Calendar, we’ve got more fiction fresh from the Garden of Nurgle.
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BorderCountess wrote:Just because you're doing something right doesn't necessarily mean you know what you're doing...
"Vulkan: There will be no Rad or Phosphex in my legion. We shall fight wars humanely. Some things should be left in the dark age."
"Ferrus: Oh cool, when are you going to stop burning people to death?"
"Vulkan: I do not understand the question."
– A conversation between the X and XVIII Primarchs
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2025/12/15 18:38:19
Subject: Re:Grotmas Day 14 – Pair up and play Spearhead Doubles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Iron Warriors?
Next on the Grotmas Calendar, we’ve got more fiction fresh from the Garden of Nurgle.
Wake me on Wednesday.
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"There are no problems that cannot be solved with cannons." - Chief Engineer Boris Krauss of Nuln
LatheBiosas wrote:I have such a difficult time hitting my opponents... setting them on fire seems so much simpler.
Kid_Kyoto wrote:"Don't be a dick" and "This is a family wargame" are good rules of thumb.
DR:80S++G++M--B+IPwhfb01#+D+++A+++/fWD258R++T(D)DM+++
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2025/12/16 01:49:12
Subject: Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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The fiction stuff is so yawn.
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2025/12/16 06:29:49
Subject: Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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They seem to have completely missed the point of what made Grotmas so good last year - rules. People like new stuff for their games. New ways to play, new detachments, expanded campaign rules and so on. Just releasing all the same filler content you put out as standard and labelling it Grotmas is a huge let down.
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2025/12/16 11:24:02
Subject: Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Slipspace wrote:They seem to have completely missed the point of what made Grotmas so good last year - rules. People like new stuff for their games. New ways to play, new detachments, expanded campaign rules and so on. Just releasing all the same filler content you put out as standard and labelling it Grotmas is a huge let down.
Rules are nice and practical.
When they did the whole thing as a holiday rumor engine, dripping out hints of new minis I had a lot more fun.
This year just feels light.
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2025/12/16 13:08:14
Subject: Re:Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The shattered gate vomits the get of the storm… they fight beneath the staring eye… worlds blessed and worlds cursed… the defeated are yet defiant…
Wulfen? Would fit the 'get of the storm'
The black sun burns cursed iron… and lights the furnace of vengeance… steel and flesh and blood and ichor tear and flow… and from ruin shall rise infinite geometries of spite…
Agree with BorderCountess, this sounds like Iron Warriors.
‘Childer of Oleadros Delphos… faithful of Galagan… the time of whispers is ending… soon will come the time of knives… make ready, true believers… deliverance comes ironwrought and vengeful…’
Again sounds Iron Warriors-esque, maybe a new cultist unit?
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2025/12/16 13:32:44
Subject: Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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White Scars are also associated with storms, but Wolves is probably more likely.
Could be dark mech?
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2025/12/16 14:15:48
Subject: Grotmas Day 15 – A message from within the Eye
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[DCM]
Chief Deputy Sub Assistant Trainee Squig Handling Intern
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Dark Mech?
Please be Dark Mech.
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