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I give leeway to proper visual attempts. Because deep down? We’re kind of like Orks. Whether it’s lore accurate or not? We do expect a big honking gun to act like a big honking gun in the movies.

Within reason of course. I think we’d all get justifiably grumpy if a squad of Marine rapid fired a Landraider to Deth. But exaggerated recoil and very loud Dakka? If it’s not there, it can be jarring.

Also, that was Dawn of War 3, not Total War.

I would then present Astartes on the other end of the scale. With power armour and superhuman musculature, recoil should be virtually non existent. By its nature recoil messes with accuracy, so minimising it is important. I personally prefer the hyper competent image set out in Astartes, where all the movements are minimal and efficient, and each bolt hits a target.

That I agree with. Because they pulled it off in such a stylish but still brutal manner.

I mean, the baddies are getting utterly spifflicated, but the Marines are doling that out with precise control. Not hitting any harder than is absolutely necessary, and visible calculation of who’s going to get it next.

I would like to see a Space Wolf equivalent where perhaps it’s Blood Claws being more rowdy, just for contrast.

Well, it is the Imperium. Who needs tanks with ground clearance? Just rule of cool your way through the battlefield even though your tank design should get immediately stuck in the smallest ditch imaginable.

A Leman Russ has something comical like a 1 metre wide barrel bore and stores its ammunition in a pocket dimension, I can only assume.

So if heavy kickback looks cool, they'll have it, but it won't actually impair their aim of course.

There's also the fact that Space Marines are propaganda machines, there's always the possibility that Astartes Bolters have artificial kick built into them to convey the sense that they're much more powerful than they actually are

I don’t want to rule that out. But?

How would you achieve that?

I mean, to be struck by a Bolt shell is a quick if ingloriously messy way to go. And that’s the shock and awe intent of Astartes.

Sudden, explicit and irresistible ultra violence, with the ability and aptitude to do it more or less exactly where your armed forces least want it.

When any video/pict capture/whatever is showing your Noble Leader and His Noble Sidekicks just turning into a fine whatever your blood colour happens to be mist, whilst their assailants wade through a great deal of what you’ve got to throw at them? Is anyone really going to analyse the recoil of that gun that’s misting your alleged brightest and best?

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Also, that was Dawn of War 3, not Total War.

It's Total War watch the video. I took a screenshot from it.

 Adeptekon wrote:

 RaptorusRex wrote:
Also, that was Dawn of War 3, not Total War.

It's Total War watch the video. I took a screenshot from it.

This was in response to the “back flipping terminator” thing.