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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 17:13:10
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Been Around the Block
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Okay, I can barely contain myself...
As always, FW kicks arse when it comes to models and they may very well have outdone themselves with these figurines! See below and enjoy:
Hi There,
With only a few days to go before Games Day UK, we have just enough time for one last Newsletter and a few last minute sneak peaks of special surprises we have for the day! One other piece of good news is that I can confirm that we will have advance copies of our new book, Imperial Armour Model Masterclass Volume 1 available to buy at the show!
Thanks
Alan Bligh
Games Day UK Sneak Peaks!
First up we have some very early previews at some new models which we are hoping to have at Games Day UK in very limited quantities. These models cannot be reserved and they aren`t available for pre-order yet either. So, the only way you will be able to buy these models for now is at the show!
If you want to see these new models in their full glory, you'll have to go to the show or wait for for future Newsletters.
Ultramarines Venerable Dreadnought
Ultramarines Venerable Dreadnought
The Ultramarines join the ranks of loyalist Chapters with their own fantastically characterful new MKIV Venerable Dreadnought model. £24.00 (excluding arms)
Chaos Lord Zhufor
Chaos Lord Zhufor
A new character introduced in Imperial Volume 6, Lord Zhufor, savage devotee of the Blood God Khorne. £15.00
Ork Nob Bikers
Ork Nob Bikers
Ork players will get a chance to crush their enemies beneath their wheels with our new set of three Ork Warbiker Nobz! £52.00
Imperial Armour Model Masterclass Volume 1
Imperial Armour Model Masterclass Volume 1 http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/modelbk.htm; The first book of its kind produced by Forge World, Imperial Armour Model Masterclass http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/modelbk.htm; has been many months in the making and something of a labour of love for its principle writers, Forge World designers Phil Stutcinkas and Mark Bedford. Two of the premier modellers in their fields, with a wealth of modelling experience under their belts, Mark is a multi-Golden Demon winner, while Phil has won the prestigious `Best of Show` award at Euro Militaire 2006.
The book is a 124 page full colour hardback intended for experienced hobbyists and goes into detail about numerous advanced modelling and painting techniques for making your Warhammer 40,000 models truly something special. This volume focuses on Imperial and renegade vehicles and contains in-depth sections and stage by stage guides on projects such as a the Renegade Medusa, a Cadian Stormsword, and dioramas such as the Krieg D-Battery Artillery Emplacement, the Imperial Typha-4 Airbase and the huge Siege of Vraks battle board. There is a real wealth of information in here, and I`m sure the book will be of interest to just about anyone involved in the hobby, I know it`s certainly opened my eyes to some new techniques!
We will have copies of Imperial Armour Model Masterclass available at Games Day UK and the book will be available for pre order after the show. £26.00
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 17:17:41
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Ruthless Rafkin
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That khorne lord is straight from Awesome Town.
I'm glad to see a bit more ork stuff, but there needs to be even than that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 17:19:45
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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$100 for three biker nobs? They might be beautiful sculpts but that's full-tilt stupid.
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Waaagh-in-Progress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 17:22:59
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Been Around the Block
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Not ahuge fan of Orks but love the dread and the Khorne lord...hoping they will do a daemon engine or soon.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 17:24:58
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Amen, Teek. When I saw the Ork Nob Bikers title, I was expecting a conversion kit for the plastic warbikes. Did we really need resin bikes as well? Nob resin heads, bodies, legs and arms would have been fine.
Can't a player buy about 4 warbiker boxes for $100? Maybe even more boxes than that? Wouldn't that get you 3 Nob bikers AND 9 regular bikers? Just... wow. Don't know about that price.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 18:14:20
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Monstrous Master Moulder
Longmeadow MA 25+ Trade Rep
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Orks:
That one does look really nice....but honestly, it is almost right on par with the regular Nob from the box set. A moderate level converter could probably pull something very similar off.
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"Orkses never lost a battle. If we win we win, if we die we die fighting so it don't count. If we runs for it we don't die neither, cos we can come back for annuver go, see!"
I dig how in a setting where giant, muscled fungus men ride Mad Max cars and use their own teeth as currency, the concept of little engineering dudes with beards was considered a step too far down the aisle of silliness. ADB |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 18:22:10
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the Ork Nob Bikers. The will stand out above the regular ones.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 18:47:50
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
Ultramarines Venerable Dreadnought
new MKIV Venerable Dreadnought model. £24.00 (excluding arms)
Chaos Lord Zhufor
Lord Zhufor, savage devotee of the Blood God Khorne. £15.00
Ork Nob Bikers
new set of three Ork Warbiker Nobz! £52.00
Lord Z looks good..possessed and all...
Panic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 19:52:12
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Violent Space Marine Dedicated to Khorne
The Eye of Terror
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Wow, that's one sexy Khornate lord right there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 20:03:50
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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Jezz khorne guy got a ripper swarm mouth
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 20:05:33
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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RogueSangre
The Cockatrice Malediction
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GrandWarmasterPinto wrote:Wow, that's one sexy Khornate lord right there.
NO! KHORNE HATES SEXY!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 20:12:38
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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Wasn't there just a thread about how people were whinging about how the IG were getting all the love, and why couldn't FW do something else for a change. Some like Lagduf wanted orks.
Well, we finally get something other than IG super heavies and people get bitchy all over again.
If you're complaining about FW prices then you still really don't get the notion of show pieces items. They going to be expensive. Stupid expensive. Mad stupid whack sloppy expensive. Buy them or don't but comparing them to mass run items is apples & oranges- you're buying them because you like them, not because they're affordable. And really, you've seen one shot of one model in a group of 3 so you can't tell me you don't like the way they look (yet).
And all of you get the hell of my lawn.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 21:30:50
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Using Object Source Lighting
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What makes a miniature a "show pieces item" is not the price... you can buy expensive stuff that looks like cr@p and superb minis that are cheap.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:08:34
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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Sorry, Moopster, but I ain't usually the one to chime in about prices, from FW or from GW. It's a hobby, it's a luxury item, I get that, you gotta pony up for it. But I had to take a second look to really see what was so different about these bikes compared to the new plastic ones, and all I really came up with was 'bigger, knobby tires'. The bike may be a tad bigger (hard to tell), and the orks may be sculpted better (I know they will certainly be more detailed, knowing the sculptors and the qualities of resin), but that's REALLY a lot of cash to drop on 3 of something that, from what I can see, wouldn't be too difficult to convert from a cheaper kit.
This can't really be said about the dreadnought or the Khorne lord - sure, you could buy the plastic dread and convert one, but that would take a lot more time and effort to get same visible differences seen between the 2 kits. Had the Forge World Nobz on bikes come out before the plastic warbike kit, then I could see where the money would be going. There's a real difference there.
I see where you are coming from with the showpiece item comments, but I just can't see paying that much for something that doesn't look that drastically different from the current piece, that could be converted to a similar standard. Sure, not everyone has that skill, but I think that FW customers have become accustomed to getting more 'difference' for their money than the Nobz kit offers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:10:13
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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new set of three Ork Warbiker Nobz! £52.00
How's that phrase go? A fool and his money are soon parted?
Anyone who will fork out fifty-fething-two pounds for 3 bikes would definately fit into that category.
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:15:06
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
NoVA
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H.B.M.C. wrote:How's that phrase go? A fool and his money are soon parted?
Nope.
A fool and his money are soon married.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:41:46
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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dienekes96 wrote:Nope.
A fool and his money are soon married.
And then divorced. And then the fool has no money AND palimony payments.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:43:58
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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[DCM]
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Nice to see something other than the usual torrent of IG.
The Khorne lord is particularly nice, and the Ultras dread is great.
The bikes. They really missed a great idea on this one. As others have said, head, arm/weapons, and maybe a couple of bike kit parts would have really sold well for nobz.
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2025: Games Played:13/Models Bought:192/Sold:169/Painted:173
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
2020-2022: Games Played:42/Models Bought:1271/Sold:631/Painted:442
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:47:08
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Dakka Veteran
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GrimTeef wrote:dienekes96 wrote:Nope.
A fool and his money are soon married.
And then divorced. And then the fool has no money AND palimony payments.
Hey now, some of us divorced people are smart enough to correct our mistakes and get away with not having palimony payments!  (Although I still had no money  )
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 22:49:38
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Sorry, but that Ork bike is pants. I'm pretty disappointed to be honest... especially considering how fecking awesome the other models are and their prices.
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Nat, the Reactor Mek
Pariah Press wrote:Help! Jervis just jumped through my window, wearing a ninja costume! He's taking my 4th edition rule book! He's taking my 4th edition rule book!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 23:06:13
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Moopy wrote:the notion of show pieces items
I think that's exactly my point though Moopy. Ork nob bikers aren't exactly what I'd call "show piece". I will gladly fork over cash for a lord, or warboss, or Dragon etc, something that alone will command the spotlight. Nob bikers however are a unit, and nearly never taken in 3's. Average unit of 6-8 is going to run you over 200 bucks? Sorry, that's just plain silly.
If you want a one off biker boss or Wazzdakka, then it's great, to each their own. But the label on the tin, plain old nob bikers, does not command a $100+ price tag. Granted we've only seen a single teaser shot, if they have visible cybork features then they'll fill a niche in a popular ork list. I'll stick with conversions and a few nice steak dinners, myself.
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Waaagh-in-Progress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 23:08:31
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Calculating Commissar
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I think the Ork bike looks underwhelming so far, but really, I'd have to see more angles and a parts breakdown to be definitive.
It's more expensive than the Ig Rough Riders they've done before, even though it's probably in the same size range, which I suppose could either be FW upping their prices or them pricing the models based on mould complexity (a bike is bound to have more parts to it than one of those horse-thingies).
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The supply does not get to make the demands. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/11 23:46:01
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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i'm with everyone else about the ork biker nob, the other two better be damn impressive, or the bikes and nobz themselves better be huge. Even then it's still a strech to pay that much. Why on earth is it 52 pounds?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 00:12:43
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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i'm with everyone else about the ork biker nob, the other two better be damn impressive, or the bikes and nobz themselves better be huge. Even then it's still a strech to pay that much. Why on earth is it 52 pounds?
World oil prices.... damn can't use that because oil has gone down.
The price per unit of the blood of innocents used to make FW models so cool has gone up?
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2025: Games Played:13/Models Bought:192/Sold:169/Painted:173
2024: Games Played:8/Models Bought:393/Sold:519/Painted: 207
2023: Games Played:0/Models Bought:287/Sold:0/Painted: 203
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 02:12:56
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Ruthless Interrogator
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GrimTeef wrote:Amen, Teek. When I saw the Ork Nob Bikers title, I was expecting a conversion kit for the plastic warbikes. Did we really need resin bikes as well? Nob resin heads, bodies, legs and arms would have been fine.
It is a conversion kit. Look closely at the darker parts of the bike. The front forks that go up to the undercarriage are all dark like GW plastic and the little spikes and stuff are clearly the same as the plastic bikes. The guns on the back are also GW plastic bits. So yeah, unless I'm horribly mistaken these are conversion kits with new front wheels, handle bars, riders and ammo tanks on the back. So over $100before buying a box of GW Ork bikers necessary to complete the models.
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You can never beat your first time. The second generation is shinier, stronger, faster and superior in every regard save one, and it's an unfair criticism to level, but it simply can't be as original. - Andy Chambers, on the evolution of Games Workshop games |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 03:11:35
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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here's hoping that price was a typo then
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Waaagh-in-Progress
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 03:13:54
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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52 pounds is a weird number. It might be backwards, and 25 pounds is the number. That makes a LOT more sense.
Time will tell, though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 03:24:07
Subject: Re:Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Teek wrote:here's hoping that price was a typo then
Well it is Forgeworld.
[/obligatory dig]
Actually, given what FW have been doing with conversion kits recently, I wouldn't be surprised if this came with the three bikes already. Still, 52 is just balls-to-the-wall looney for pricing. For that kind've miney I'd want it to atleast come with [ overt sexual act involving famous celebrity] or if not that [ imbued with a precious metal or stone of choice].
BYE
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 07:04:26
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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I spend more in a night for less at a strip club. At least I get to go home with 3 nob bikers and they are the sexy for days to come!
Heck.. I shoot off $100 of paintballs in a day, and again, all I get to keep is the sweat and pain. Fill up the tank of the truck... a good $80, and that lasts less than a week. In a lot of ways $100 for three ork bikers doesn't seem all that bad to me  It's all in what you are willing to spend your money on. I work with guys that have $100 ties...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2008/09/12 07:19:20
Subject: Forgeworld Newsletter #202...ULTRAMARINES Ven Dread and KHORNE and Orks!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Toreador wrote:In a lot of ways $100 for three ork bikers doesn't seem all that bad to me  It's all in what you are willing to spend your money on. I work with guys that have $100 ties...
It seems you've exchanged your rose-tinted glasses for blinders.
BYE
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