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AvP 2E preorder:
http://shop.prodosgames.com/home/291-avp-the-hunt-begins-second-edition.html

Original AvP Kickstarter discussion thread:
https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/7800/556916.page#9206966

Second Edition and I still dont have all my Kickstarter stuff. Another reminder of wasted money.

Are many backers still waiting for their kickstarter pledges from xx years ago? The temerity of this company.

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Are many backers still waiting for their kickstarter pledges from xx years ago? The temerity of this company.

Some, whether in full or in part. For a several years and several hundred pages long record of how Prodos treats their most loyal customers, here's the link to the thread on the last AVP edition:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/7770/556916.page

In a nutshell, some backers are finally after YEARS of seeing the product on the shelves of retail stores and online offered at less than what they paid, they're finally getting part or all of their rewards only just before Prodos makes it obsolete and can't ship it to anyone else.

will the rules be playable?

Really excited for the future of UNICAST. One piece models with fantastic detail!

 warboss wrote:

ListenToMeWarriors wrote:
Are many backers still waiting for their kickstarter pledges from xx years ago? The temerity of this company.

Some, whether in full or in part. For a several years and several hundred pages long record of how Prodos treats their most loyal customers, here's the link to the thread on the last AVP edition:

https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/7770/556916.page

In a nutshell, some backers are finally after YEARS of seeing the product on the shelves of retail stores and online offered at less than what they paid, they're finally getting part or all of their rewards only just before Prodos makes it obsolete and can't ship it to anyone else.

Thanks. Not supporting this game, then. That is a jacked up way of treating backers.

yeah,
I'm still waiting for a Large chunk of my KS.
Prodos are terrible. their customer care is awful awful awful.

The owners don't care about gamers.

I recommend you all Avoid.

Panic...

Still waiting on the second half of my order from the KS years ago.

Never expected 2nd edition to come out before I got my 1st edition stuff...

Welp, I still not have gotten anything, and now it will be obsolete if I ever receive it.

Well now... when I first saw this post go up, I thought "Oh hey that looks interesting." But having read up on the behavior of Prodos and their utter failure to fulfill their pledges, I can say with some certainty that I wouldn't touch this product with a 29.5 foot pole.

As always, thanks for the save, Dakka!

Unicast models are pretty awesome. This should sell well to boardgamers

I don't know. I got my 2 boxes when it first came out (and I was a kickstarter person), then I ordered the extra stuff, got those lickity split, then the drop ship arrived 4 days after I bought it... I have had luck 6/6 times so far. When I was missing a part in the starter they sent an entire new sprue.

 krazynadechukr wrote:
I don't know. I got my 2 boxes when it first came out (and I was a kickstarter person), then I ordered the extra stuff, got those lickity split, then the drop ship arrived 4 days after I bought it... I have had luck 6/6 times so far. When I was missing a part in the starter they sent an entire new sprue.

I think that's the crux of the problem - they arbitrarily fulfill orders so some people/projects get theirs on time while others are left dormant for years.

So is this a new record for KS not only did it go retail before backers got theres but the 2nd edition hits retail before the original backers get theres.

Stay classy Prodos you have now joined the greats such as tony reidy and Mealstrom Games as morally deficent shysters.

The new version looks good, I'd like a hands on with the models before committing (one part casts give me restic flashbacks) but the package is nice. I really like that it even comes with a custom foam insert. It's definitely an improvement over the original offering.

Man, I really like this look, but seriously douchey behavior towards fans has me steering clear on solidarity, even before self-interest of not wanting to get screwed.

 spiralingcadaver wrote:
Man, I really like this look, but seriously douchey behavior towards fans has me steering clear on solidarity, even before self-interest of not wanting to get screwed.

& this is the big problem. I have the game but I doubt anyone else in my area has it so will never get to play it

Talk about kicking a lot of folks while they're down...what a knob-job of a company.

FWIW

Anyone waiting on their pledges from KS or who doesn't want to business with Prodos because of their behaviour could contact the rights holder (Fox?)

They wont care about some crummy gamers pledges not being delivered, however making the point that it is damaging the brand that has been licensed may make them take notice.

I'm fully prepared to do business with Prodos the moment I receive my Predators that's been in the mail for the past, what, three years?

Never got round to buying the original but I've preorderd this.

Well, good luck to ya, brave soul.

You'll need it.

 His Master's Voice wrote:
I'm fully prepared to do business with Prodos the moment I receive my Predators that's been in the mail for the past, what, three years?

You could just drive on a weekend vacation over to Warsaw, see the sights, and bang on their door.

Ain't no way Prodos is getting any more of my money. Good luck to those of you who end up buying this one. Suppose we should be bloody grateful they aren't running another Kickstarter for this game.

I was in on the KS. I'm one of the "lucky" ones, got everything (apart from a cloaked predator) last year.

I will never, ever give Prodos a $ in pre-order or the like. Nope. If I ever buy from them - and this looks so good - it's from a physical or online store with stock.

As for the v2 itself, I have two questions that I know I'll never get any answer:

- Are the tiles and tokens compatible with v1? Same thickness and connections (for the tiles)? That would be nice for v1 owners.

- What's the benefit of pre-ordering? Is it cheaper? I certainly wouldn't trust it to be quicker. I still remember seeing the v1 box in my physical store BEFORE I got my KS v1 box.

The best thing I got from this KS is a mental list of the Prodos' employees who LIED to ks backers. I always check for their names on any new game I'm looking to buy. Fool me once...

If I get it, it'll be from Firestorm or Wayland.

Not direct.

redacted

...Which means what to you? (Seriously, are you talking about assuming they'll fulfill? That KS isn't a pseudo-accountable middleman? I'm pretty sure prodos hasn't delivered their last preorder either)

Why back this when the models get to retailers faster than to the backers?