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If no, why not?

I could see the argument that tyranids already kinda fill that niche in 40k

There is only one reason I would not support this



And that's because GW has teased us with Exodites for decades before and if we are going to have giant lizards and reptiles in 40K with lasers (possibly on their heads) then darn it we deserve Exodites BEFORE we get lizards carrying guns!

First, what Overread said. Exodites first.

I’m sure GW could whip up a cool looking race with fun lore. Working them into the greater universe might take some work, but the fluff has be stretched before. They fit in the Tau.

The question is what new race would bring to the table? From a story PoV, and game mechanics. There are not a lot of empty niches out there. So trying to shoehorn a new army into the game is going to step on toes.

 Overread wrote:
There is only one reason I would not support this



And that's because GW has teased us with Exodites for decades before and if we are going to have giant lizards and reptiles in 40K with lasers (possibly on their heads) then darn it we deserve Exodites BEFORE we get lizards carrying guns!

I thought expedited were variant of eldar that rides 40k versions of cold ones and not lizardmen.

johnpjones1775 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
There is only one reason I would not support this



And that's because GW has teased us with Exodites for decades before and if we are going to have giant lizards and reptiles in 40K with lasers (possibly on their heads) then darn it we deserve Exodites BEFORE we get lizards carrying guns!

I thought expedited were variant of eldar that rides 40k versions of cold ones and not lizardmen.

Exactly.
In Old World and AoS the lizardmen also ride larger lizards. So if GW were to bring that force into 40K they'd also likely bring the giant lizards to ride and that is what Exodites have been doing for 30years till now and never having a single model.

Hence my argument that if GW went down this pathway then Exodites should be first.

Hell no. Better do this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNsrvnHJdco

Slann or zoats?

 Overread wrote:

johnpjones1775 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
There is only one reason I would not support this



And that's because GW has teased us with Exodites for decades before and if we are going to have giant lizards and reptiles in 40K with lasers (possibly on their heads) then darn it we deserve Exodites BEFORE we get lizards carrying guns!

I thought expedited were variant of eldar that rides 40k versions of cold ones and not lizardmen.

Exactly.
In Old World and AoS the lizardmen also ride larger lizards. So if GW were to bring that force into 40K they'd also likely bring the giant lizards to ride and that is what Exodites have been doing for 30years till now and never having a single model.

Hence my argument that if GW went down this pathway then Exodites should be first.

honestly you'd think they'd do an Exodite army already. you can repackage a lot of the Lizardman/'seraphon' dinosaur sprues as is, and just need to sculpt Eldar figures to ride them and weapons platforms for the bigger stuff.. and half of that could be adapted from the eldar vehicles

Probably not. Not right now at least. There's a lot of stuff I'd prefer over them right now. Namely Exodites as a Xenos with Dinosaurs race.

johnpjones1775 wrote:
If no, why not?

If no, it'd be because I didn't like the models. I simply don't buy or use models I don't like.

 Overread wrote:

johnpjones1775 wrote:

 Overread wrote:
There is only one reason I would not support this



And that's because GW has teased us with Exodites for decades before and if we are going to have giant lizards and reptiles in 40K with lasers (possibly on their heads) then darn it we deserve Exodites BEFORE we get lizards carrying guns!

I thought expedited were variant of eldar that rides 40k versions of cold ones and not lizardmen.

Exactly.
In Old World and AoS the lizardmen also ride larger lizards. So if GW were to bring that force into 40K they'd also likely bring the giant lizards to ride and that is what Exodites have been doing for 30years till now and never having a single model.

Hence my argument that if GW went down this pathway then Exodites should be first.

eldar riding Dino’s is not remotely the same a faction that is themselves humanoid lizardfolk.
That’s like calling guard ‘horsemen’ because rough riders and death riders ride horses.


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ccs wrote:

johnpjones1775 wrote:
If no, why not?

If no, it'd be because I didn't like the models. I simply don't buy or use models I don't like.

but in general you would support a new faction of lizardfolk?

johnpjones1775 wrote:

ccs wrote:

johnpjones1775 wrote:
If no, why not?

If no, it'd be because I didn't like the models. I simply don't buy or use models I don't like.

but in general you would support a new faction of lizardfolk?

No, in general I don't care wether they introduce space-Lizardfolk or not.
My "support" manifests in me spending $. That depends upon wether or not I like the finished product (the minis).

I am pro-lizard-people for 40k. Could look really cool. Could also make a nod to "V".

I don't see why they'd be at all the same niche as Tyranids. I'm thinking lizardmen with flying saucers and the like. Classic 50's sci-fi stuff. Or Sleestacks.

 Insectum7 wrote:
I am pro-lizard-people for 40k. Could look really cool. Could also make a nod to "V".

I don't see why they'd be at all the same niche as Tyranids. I'm thinking lizardmen with flying saucers and the like. Classic 50's sci-fi stuff. Or Sleestacks.

I imagine they’d likely be something between orks and ‘nids

would I support it? No. Would I put up with it, yes.

Im generally against introducing new factions. Each one is another set of rules to balance with, and makes it take longer between rules updates for other, existing factions. I think 40k has too many factions already. Some of them frankly need to be cut.

apogats wrote:
would I support it? No. Would I put up with it, yes.

Im generally against introducing new factions. Each one is another set of rules to balance with, and makes it take longer between rules updates for other, existing factions. I think 40k has too many factions already. Some of them frankly need to be cut.

Less Space Marines more Lizards?

Beast_of_Guanyin wrote:

apogats wrote:
would I support it? No. Would I put up with it, yes.

Im generally against introducing new factions. Each one is another set of rules to balance with, and makes it take longer between rules updates for other, existing factions. I think 40k has too many factions already. Some of them frankly need to be cut.

Less Space Marines more Lizards?

The real money is in Lizard Space Marines. With their own gecko guns, veteran grizzled-lizard units, and lizard Grand Master special character.

 Insectum7 wrote:

Beast_of_Guanyin wrote:

apogats wrote:
would I support it? No. Would I put up with it, yes.

Im generally against introducing new factions. Each one is another set of rules to balance with, and makes it take longer between rules updates for other, existing factions. I think 40k has too many factions already. Some of them frankly need to be cut.

Less Space Marines more Lizards?

The real money is in Lizard Space Marines. With their own gecko guns, veteran grizzled-lizard units, and lizard Grand Master special character.

Salamanders?

If it was good, sure. But that's such a broad concept, it could be anything from great to terrible.

Non slann xenos? It would depend entirely on the miniature design and there are a million other things I’d rather have. If it had to be a new xenos army then pisceans.

apogats wrote:
would I support it? No. Would I put up with it, yes.

Im generally against introducing new factions. Each one is another set of rules to balance with, and makes it take longer between rules updates for other, existing factions. I think 40k has too many factions already. Some of them frankly need to be cut.

We have 3 year edition cycle. You want to replace books even faster?

We don’t need another Alien army to neglect.
Even liking Eldar, all the main current ones need some more work.
So wouldn’t like another one added in until then.

Nice to see expansion to the table, but GW not great at what they got.

 TheBestBucketHead wrote:

Salamanders?

Close, but salamanders are amphibians. Lizard Marines will have green skin, yellow eyes and wear black armor. Their favored weapon type will be Plasma, because the sun is a ball of plasma and lizards like the sun.

I want the entire bestiary section from Rogue Trader brought back as modern models.

Slann reintroduction? Bring it on!

I'd much prefer that other neglected factions got some love before we introduce another new one.

They're in there. They just evolved into birds and got called kroot.

johnpjones1775 wrote:
I imagine they’d likely be something between orks and ‘nids

See? Kroot!

 Vermis wrote:
They're in there. They just evolved into birds and got called kroot.

johnpjones1775 wrote:
I imagine they’d likely be something between orks and ‘nids

See? Kroot!

Agreed. We already have Kroot and they are a pretty cool race. I remember at one point I actually gave my lizard men models guns and said they were a sub species of Kroot lol.

I’d be up for a return of The Old Ones.

Just make them extra-dimensional in nature.

See, the Warp we now know, thanks to Necron tech, to be only one parallel dimension, albeit one influenced by our own.

It’s entirely possible The Old One’s, at some point and not necessarily at the end of the War in Heaven, could’ve secreted folk and forces in such a parallel, living in Craftworld type generational ships. Once secreted, they work on a way to change their own relationship with The Warp, perhaps aligning themselves with this hypothetical dimension instead.

Millions of years later, they now have the numbers and ability to properly strike back. Or thanks to Wibbly wobbly Timey Wimey Cross Dimensional Shenanigans, they accidentally took far too long, sidereal speaking,

Direct port of AoS lizardmen? No.

40k lizardmen race? Yes, sure. We already know of some in the lore, like Tarellian dog-soldiers (these are actually reptilian and not dogs). Easy to add as a mecenary faction initially, as that is what they are most known for.

My only hang up would be that I want them to get their ducks in a row with everyone else first, otherwise I'm cool with it. "

Though we technically already have space-lizardmen:



Tarellians, which, as far as minor xenos go, have a decent bit of lore on them. A reptilian species with clawed hands and a face described as canine or Crocodilian. They have a small empire but are most know for their mercenaries, the Tarellian Dog-soldiers, know for fighting with the tau and the Alpha Legion. They have a deep-seated hatred of the imperium, more than most, and they have had run-ins with the Tyranids and genestealers, though they are apparently poor hosts for the latter.